its my edit version of varo sakura he released years ago. i did tons of fixes to her
Fixes? Like what?
Title: Re: Sakura (Pots Style) By Varo Hades
Post by: RagingRowen on January 14, 2020, 12:13:49 am
Ok, nice to finally see this out, here's the feedback fella: 1. Her overall damage output is a bit much with her specials (Excluding Ouka Kyaku) and supers, with the Shinkuu Hadoukens up close being the biggest offender for me. Here's a video of a typical combo (At the end) doing like 500+ damage which should probably be 400+. https://streamable.com/o4kya 2. EX Tengyou Hadou Ken does more damage than the normal EX Hadou Ken 3. For Haru Ranman, I think P2 goes into State 5100 or w/e a bit too early, I made this vid to show it, trying to do a slo-mo thingy with the pause to help. https://streamable.com/i7cbh 4. Normal Sakura's EX Shouou Ken is a lil' too Similar to the LVL1 Midare Zakura 5. Shinkuu Hadoukens hit a lil' too fast, unless this was intentional. 6, Shun Goku Satsu's hit sounds start before the hit sparks start appearing. 7. Optional, but Haru Issen is her MVC Midare Zakura and Shunpuu Chou Rasen is her MVC Haru Ichiban. Just wondering if you'd take that into consideration, maybe for Dark Sakura because she borrows most from her MVC series moves (I mean replacing her current Midare Zakura and Haru Ichiban, leaving 4 LVL1/2 Supers for both modes). Edit: 8. Shinkuu Hadoukens can't be MAX/Dream Cancelled from. 9. EX Shunpuu Kyaku's voice plays after the first hit. 10. You didn't mention the followups for Shunpuu Kyaku and Sakura Otoshi. 11. The way Sakura Senkuu's afterimages disappear is off.
I'll check for more as per usual.
Title: Re: Sakura (Pots Style) By Varo Hades
Post by: DauntlessMonk7 on January 14, 2020, 12:41:39 am
1. Her overall damage output is a bit much with her specials and supers, with the Shinkuu Hadoukens being the biggest offender for me. Here's a video of a typical combo (At the end) doing like 500+ damage which should probably be 400+. https://streamable.com/o4kya
Sounds like you forgot to update the damage dampener, BahamianKing and/or Varo Hades.
In all seriousness, that level 2 ether needs a damage nerf or to be removed entirely.
Title: Re: Sakura (Pots Style) By Varo Hades
Post by: RagingRowen on January 14, 2020, 12:48:39 am
Yeah I think it's the Damage applied to the Hitdefs, not the overall dampener.
Title: Re: Sakura (Pots Style) By Varo Hades
Post by: DauntlessMonk7 on January 14, 2020, 01:38:08 am
Yeah I think it's the Damage applied to the Hitdefs, not the overall dampener.
If that's the case, then the damage in the hit defs should probably be lowered.
Title: Re: Sakura (Pots Style) By Varo Hades
Post by: Mysticus92 on January 14, 2020, 12:52:04 pm
I found an odd. When Sakura's EX Tengyou Hadouken hits her opponent in air, her fireball is not trasparent for a split second. (https://i.imgur.com/acq0zsR.png)
Title: Re: Sakura (Pots Style) By Varo Hades
Post by: BahamianKing242 on January 14, 2020, 04:41:18 pm
ill try to fix as much as i could. tbh i really aint to happy or care about dark sakura. to be there kind of the same character. atone point i was thinking of removing all dark sakura stuff. i dont really like that character. and just give normal sakura the Shun Goku Satsu
and i dont understand raging number 5 and 7 explain a lil bit more. this part Midare Zakura and Haru Ichiban, leaving 4 LVL1/2 Supers for both modes).
thanks for the feedbacks
Title: Re: Sakura (Pots Style) By Varo Hades
Post by: RagingRowen on January 14, 2020, 04:56:14 pm
For 5. The Hit Pauses should be similar to, take Divinewolf's Akuma Messatsu Gohadou or just PotS's original Sakura for example.
For 7. I mean't removing those 2 mentioned supers in exchange for the Haru Issen (Midare Zakura), Shunpuu Chou Rasen (Haru Ichiban), replacing the commands in addition. Try playing her MvC2 or MSH vs SF variants and checking her supers, you'll see. It'll likely make Dark Sakura less samey as you've just mentioned.
Title: Re: Sakura (Pots Style) By Varo Hades
Post by: BahamianKing242 on January 14, 2020, 05:15:07 pm
you mean the super where she spins up in the air. yea i hate that super i was gonna remove it cuz it sucks. i like the rush down one better. and thats why i said now that im thinking bout it dark sakura maybe is not even needed. i might just remove her. normal sakura is better with better moves and maybe i can let her use the ex SHOUOU KEN that dark sakura has. i didnt notice how the same it was like the super. would you guys be ok with me removing dark sakura? i feel normal sakura is better aint much difference
Title: Re: Sakura (Pots Style) By Varo Hades
Post by: DauntlessMonk7 on January 15, 2020, 01:53:29 am
you mean the super where she spins up in the air. yea i hate that super i was gonna remove it cuz it sucks. i like the rush down one better. and thats why i said now that im thinking bout it dark sakura maybe is not even needed. i might just remove her. normal sakura is better with better moves and maybe i can let her use the ex SHOUOU KEN that dark sakura has. i didnt notice how the same it was like the super. would you guys be ok with me removing dark sakura? i feel normal sakura is better aint much difference
Yeah, i'm not really all that into Dark Sakura ether. She just feels like Sakura with Akuma's teleport. Though it's ultimately up to you what you decide to do.
Title: Re: Sakura (Pots Style) By Varo Hades
Post by: BahamianKing242 on January 15, 2020, 05:15:03 am
yea im gonna remove dark sakura i should of thought of that from the start. she wasnt even popular in mshvsf. two more chars ill share here then i think im done with releasing. karin and deejay. karin by Phantom.of.the.Server i recoded and reorganized her sff,snd and air files. and deejay my newest commission from varo
Title: Re: Sakura (Pots Style) By Varo Hades
Post by: Bejeeta on January 15, 2020, 07:44:03 am
How about Mr karate?you will not release him?
Title: Re: Sakura (Pots Style) By Varo Hades
Post by: oraora? on January 18, 2020, 07:21:11 am
yea im gonna remove dark sakura i should of thought of that from the start. she wasnt even popular in mshvsf.
oh man, I am sad to see dark sakura will be removed :'( I actually enjoy playing as her back in Mvsf. Anyway since she has alternate def as dark sakura, people can choose not to install her dark version. I would be sad if she is removed :'( hope I am not too late, otherwise I am still gonna keep this version if a new update is up :dead:
Title: Re: Sakura (Pots Style) By Varo Hades
Post by: Akito on January 18, 2020, 08:35:13 am
+ 1. I like Dark Sakura.
Title: Re: Sakura (Pots Style) By Varo Hades
Post by: 【ＭＦＧ】gui0007 on January 19, 2020, 12:56:17 am
Damn, such great version of Sakura bro. And if i was you i won't exclude her Dark version but anyway, it's your choice.
Title: Re: Sakura (Pots Style) By Varo Hades
Post by: Ysaquerai on January 19, 2020, 04:28:08 am
i also hope you don't remove dark sakura, i like her from marvel vs
Title: Re: Sakura (Pots Style) By Varo Hades
Post by: BahamianKing242 on January 19, 2020, 03:12:40 pm
i also hope you don't remove dark sakura, i like her from marvel vs
ok im not gonna remove her since many seems to like her. i havent done any updates as yet. maybe raging rowen might handle the updates mention in his post
yea i still have mr.karate pot style there. varo did him for me few months ago. maybe ill see. i havent done my edits to him as yet
Title: Re: Sakura (Pots Style) By Varo Hades
Post by: ZombieNeko on January 20, 2020, 01:06:35 am
- I honestly like dark sakura, maybe releasing her as a separate char would work - What about using this CS instead of the current one?: http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/pots-sakura-cs-patch-frozshinrei-187664.msg2452094.html#msg2452094 (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/pots-sakura-cs-patch-frozshinrei-187664.msg2452094.html#msg2452094) (just a suggestion)
Title: Re: Sakura (Pots Style) By Varo Hades
Post by: BahamianKing242 on January 21, 2020, 01:11:20 am
i forgot to add that wow. i downloaded this before i updated her. ill see though cuz im no good with cs and pals. someone will have to do it for me