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Title: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Sima Shi on March 25, 2021, 06:05:21 pm
https://www.siliconera.com/melty-blood-type-lumina-announced-for-consoles/

(https://i.imgur.com/2TsIQmG.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/07CswxH.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0YvIE28.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/C52pHQM.jpg)

https://meltyblood.typelumina.com/en/


Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: 087-B on March 25, 2021, 06:42:52 pm
First Yashiro in KOF XV and now this what the FUCK IS GOING ON with FIGHTING GAMES--



Aight I'm hype
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: Mgbenz on March 25, 2021, 06:49:14 pm
Sion's not going to be in the game apparently. Sad.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: Kirishima on March 25, 2021, 06:57:12 pm
Neco-Arc Chaos or this game will fail
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: DarkWolf13 on March 25, 2021, 07:19:18 pm
Gimme Riesbyfe or they'll be DOOMED TO FAIL!!
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: Kirishima on March 25, 2021, 07:29:24 pm
Wait a minute if Len returns, then the Mugen world will witness the second coming of the 30 something Len clones like it's '09 all over again :sbt:
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: Macaulyn97 on March 25, 2021, 07:55:41 pm
Okay, that was unexpected, its been forever since we had a Melty Blood game, I thought they had forgotten those. Still, good to see it being brought back, I just wish those screenshots were bigger.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: Kohaku~★ on March 25, 2021, 08:09:44 pm
I haven't been hyped for a fighting game in a long while. I'm super glad this game is going to be released globally.

Also it's only a small change, but adding those white tassel things onto Ciel's design makes me like her Remake church attire 1000x more.

Sion's not going to be in the game apparently. Sad.

Wait a minute if Len returns, then the Mugen world will witness the second coming of the 30 something Len clones like it's '09 all over again :sbt:

Apparently this game takes place before the events of the Remake as a "what if?" scenario as opposed to the original Melty which was a sort of spin-off continuation of Tsukihime, so I don't think she'll be in the game considering Sion won't be in it for the same reason (at least in the base roster anyways). Though Len was present in the original game before Kagetsu Tohya albeit indirectly as the one who gave Shiki his lewd dreams after beating Nrvqsr.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: Macaulyn97 on March 25, 2021, 08:11:37 pm
Wait, I know absolutely nothing about the timeline, could you bring more details?
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: Kohaku~★ on March 25, 2021, 08:21:34 pm
Without going into the rabbit hole that is the Nasuverse, all you need to know is that the original Melty Blood took place after Tsukihime and Kagetsu Tohya while Type Lumina takes place before Remake.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: Macaulyn97 on March 25, 2021, 08:44:33 pm
Okay, another question, technically two: which new characters can we expect and are characters like Len and Sion out or can they just find an excuse to put them in?
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: Byakko on March 25, 2021, 08:48:57 pm
I was wondering about that. before Remake as in a story with the characters before the events of the Remake ? But we'll still get Tohno Shiki and presumably Nanaya Shiki and Satsuki and so on and they'll just not be in the story ? Are we going to see if Nero gets replaced and who takes his role, the new sword guy, before the remake comes out ?
(I'm assuming Remake still gets released after it)
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: Kohaku~★ on March 25, 2021, 09:06:48 pm
It's hard to tell at this point if the majority of the original Melty Blood roster will even come back in Lumina. Nasu has the habit of disconfirming characters if it doesn't fit the narrative (like how he ruled out Akiha and Shiki from being possible Servants in FGO since the Shiki and Akiha of the FGO timeline wouldn't be the same characters from the Tsukihime one). I mean for starters, the only reason a bunch of characters in the original Melty could even fight (Hisui, Kohaku, Miyako, etc.) was because of Wallachia's influence.

The only "new" character I see them adding to the game is that grey haired guy vampire guy with the sword you see in the opening of Remake, but even then I wouldn't be surprised if that's just Roa's new redesign. So unless they plan on making new OCs for Type Lumina, it's hard to gauge at this point like I said though they did say they were going to update and expand the current list of the 27 Dead Apostle Ancestors to make them more threatening considering enemies in other Type-Moon IPs like FGO make them look like shit.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: DauntlessMonk7 on March 25, 2021, 10:09:44 pm
It's hard to tell at this point if the majority of the original Melty Blood roster will even come back in Lumina. Nasu has the habit of disconfirming characters if it doesn't fit the narrative (like how he ruled out Akiha and Shiki from being possible Servants in FGO since the Shiki and Akiha of the FGO timeline wouldn't be the same characters from the Tsukihime one). I mean for starters, the only reason a bunch of characters in the original Melty could even fight (Hisui, Kohaku, Miyako, etc.) was because of Wallachia's influence.

The only "new" character I see them adding to the game is that grey haired guy vampire guy with the sword you see in the opening of Remake, but even then I wouldn't be surprised if that's just Roa's new redesign. So unless they plan on making new OCs for Type Lumina, it's hard to gauge at this point like I said though they did say they were going to update and expand the current list of the 27 Dead Apostle Ancestors to make them more threatening considering enemies in other Type-Moon IPs like FGO make them look like shit.

Huh. I never knew about the dis-confirming narrative thing.
Although i've got a feeling that when/if this game gets an update/sequel or DLC,
they'll probably throw the narrative thing out the window
& have it be the post Tsukihime characters from previous MB games,
such as Sion, Riesbyfe, Ryougi, etc.

They did that with Dragon Ball FighterZ with the movie & GT characters,
& i think Fate Unlimited Codes did that too with some servants from Fate/Zero(?).

Got to have something to convince people to buy the DLC/update & keep the cash flowing, after all.

But ether way, it's great that Melty Blood is back for modern consoles.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: Kohaku~★ on March 25, 2021, 11:51:14 pm
The only time I remember off the top of my head where Nasu threw the whole narrative thing out the window was when they added Ryougi in Actress Again through some time traveling/dimension hopping shenanigans. I think it was to promote the Garden of Sinners movie.

The Nasu of today would have never did such a thing considering how big of a discrepancy that is to his whole world building since he stated that only one person in the world can have the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception at any given time hence another reason why FGO's Shiki wouldn't be the same as Tsukihime's Shiki, as the Ryougi in FGO is of the FGO timeline (she has the Mystic Eyes) as she was caught up in Goetia's incineration of humanity.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: Kohaku~★ on March 26, 2021, 12:47:44 pm
Website is up.

https://meltyblood.typelumina.com/en/
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: Mysticus92 on March 26, 2021, 04:06:04 pm
Aoko better be in with her Mahou Tsukai No Yoru design.
She was my main MBAACC.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: T_DR on March 26, 2021, 09:41:10 pm
I never thought to see the day where Melty Blood will be on the Xbox platform! It's sad to see Sion deconfirmed but I'm guessing she's still kicking it with the UNIEL crew.

But I'm still really hype for this! I also hope this opens the door for the other Melty Blood games to be released on modern consoles too.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: Long John Killer on March 27, 2021, 02:03:58 am
Curious why, when they have an ongoing remake of the original title that Melty Blood is based off of being done for console, they wouldn't also bring that to Xbox but would so with the sequel series?  Surely the market to be had with Tsikihime would be in the range of whatever they intend to get out of Melty Blood with western audiences anyways?  Just one of those cases where I wonder why bother to make a foothold in the market if you're not going to establish as strong a first impression as possible.  It would be one thing asking for them to just port over the originals of everything prior and tell people to catch up, that's a bit to extreme, but they have the remake coming up soon ANYWAYS and for similar consoles.

Eh.  Whatever.  My Type-Moon history is short.  I played Melty Blood on the PS2 on a Blockbuster rental during my Toonami phase and enjoyed it, good fighting game, likable cast, looking forward to how this one turns out, but I personally never could wrap my head how this whole extended universe was birthed from a porn game.  That's evidently not even scrubbed out of its history like Nintendo does with for the most part ignoring their old comics (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dy1VurrXcAE4NGp.jpg), it's just oddly there in the background that if you want the full context you need to start at square one with an eroge visual novel.  It's just....acutely weird and so Japan.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: DauntlessMonk7 on March 27, 2021, 02:32:26 am
Aoko better be in with her Mahou Tsukai No Yoru design.
She was my main MBAACC.

Since Tsukihime takes place after Mahoyo, she'll likely have something more towards her Tsukihime design.
But yeah, i hope they bring her back, too.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: rgveda99 on March 27, 2021, 02:40:16 am
Gonna miss the 2D pixel art. I'm only hoping they make a collection with the old games. I'd really love to play the Melty Blood Act Cadenza cause it has 4 player functionality.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: Mysticus92 on March 27, 2021, 10:28:55 am
Gonna miss the 2D pixel art. I'm only hoping they make a collection with the old games. I'd really love to play the Melty Blood Act Cadenza cause it has 4 player functionality.

Look closely.
This upcoming game DOES have sprites.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: k6666orochi on March 30, 2021, 05:34:30 pm
The Sprite style looks diferent?
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: 087-B on March 30, 2021, 05:42:30 pm
The sprite style resembles Under Night, does it not?
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: Macaulyn97 on March 30, 2021, 07:13:11 pm
Oh, so its gonna be released this year? I hadn't noticed that. Anyway, looks fine enough, and the fact that its 2D means we'll see many conversions to MUGEN too. Shame they didn't show any new characters, I'd hate if the game was limited to the previous cast only.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: Byakko on March 30, 2021, 07:20:49 pm
Tsukihime will be released this summer (and MB I imagine before the holidays maybe, but yes, this year), but apparently they said it'll only be the Near Side routes, although they'll give everyone stuff to do in those routes.
So, if this new MB doesn't spoil the Far Side characters that don't exist yet, and if they don't just reuse old characters, then it's quite likely they'll cut the roster hard. The website is proud to announce that "this new game features a cast of over 10 characters" sooooo yeah that sounds real bad for most of the cast, we're probably getting mostly the Near Side characters and just the heroines for the Far Side. I can't even tell if we'll get Kohaku and Hisui.
That said, you already know we'll get more updated versions whenever the Far Side comes out. And then more. And again.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: 087-B on March 30, 2021, 07:24:54 pm
^

Never knock updated rosters and DLC. Honestly, they probably do have a plan in place and before you know it, we'll probably have the entire Current Code roster by the time everything finishes lol

Patiently awaiting both Lumina and Tsukiremake, I know I'll fall in love with both. <3






My only hope is Sion still returns as DLC in the future.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: Byakko on March 30, 2021, 07:32:23 pm
Oh yeah, the old games were still in the era of getting 50 re-release with one or two more characters, the entire world of DLC was born since then...
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: yaret on March 30, 2021, 09:08:14 pm
this game reminds me cross tag battle where every combo is so easy to make
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: Kohaku~★ on March 30, 2021, 11:07:57 pm
The sprite style resembles Under Night, does it not?

UNIEL and Melty Blood were always developed by the same company (French Bread).

Tsukihime will be released this summer (and MB I imagine before the holidays maybe, but yes, this year), but apparently they said it'll only be the Near Side routes, although they'll give everyone stuff to do in those routes.
So, if this new MB doesn't spoil the Far Side characters that don't exist yet, and if they don't just reuse old characters, then it's quite likely they'll cut the roster hard. The website is proud to announce that "this new game features a cast of over 10 characters" sooooo yeah that sounds real bad for most of the cast, we're probably getting mostly the Near Side characters and just the heroines for the Far Side. I can't even tell if we'll get Kohaku and Hisui.
That said, you already know we'll get more updated versions whenever the Far Side comes out. And then more. And again.

When you come to realize that literally half of the original roster was only possible because of Tatari shenanigans (Nanaya, Red Arc, Vampire Sion, Nero, etc.), then you begin to accept the fact that there's only going to be only 10+ characters upon release. As far as I'm concerned as long as they're all unique characters and not some alt them I'll totally be fine with quality over quantity.

But for real though, this screams updated rereleases. I can't wait for Melty Blood Type Lumina Cadenza ReActress Again Version B2 Final Tuned Current Code....
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: 087-B on March 30, 2021, 11:28:47 pm
The sprite style resembles Under Night, does it not?

UNIEL and Melty Blood were always developed by the same company (French Bread).

I was moreover responding to the person who said this wasn't 2D anymore haha. But it's still cool to see the evolution of the style. <3
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: Byakko on March 30, 2021, 11:36:28 pm
When you come to realize that literally half of the original roster was only possible because of Tatari shenanigans (Nanaya, Red Arc, Vampire Sion, Nero, etc.), then you begin to accept the fact that there's only going to be only 10+ characters upon release.
for the Melty Blood story of Wallachia, yes. But if this new game starts with the TsukiRemake story, Nanaya, Red Arc, Nero (maybe) can still show up depending on how Nasu reshuffles everything between the routes and how forms like Red Arc are presented.
I just hope that Tohno Shiki doesn't have crap moves and Nanaya get the crazy moves. I'm okay with making only one Shiki if he's worth something. And then later on, an "awakened" Nanaya can get different things.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: TurnPile on March 31, 2021, 12:07:51 am
I'm sure that the movements will be definitely less fluid, as the original Melty Blood is a really smooth game. But still, give us Len and we'll be good.

(Don't forget that they made Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax's sprites or something. Same current style).
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: rgveda99 on March 31, 2021, 01:24:06 am
Not a fan of HD sprites.  :sweatdrop:

Now that we have 3 games of the same style there's a lack of variety. I guess the good side of it is we possibly might get a triple crossover?
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: Kohaku~★ on March 31, 2021, 08:24:30 am
for the Melty Blood story of Wallachia, yes. But if this new game starts with the TsukiRemake story, Nanaya, Red Arc, Nero (maybe) can still show up depending on how Nasu reshuffles everything between the routes and how forms like Red Arc are presented.
I just hope that Tohno Shiki doesn't have crap moves and Nanaya get the crazy moves. I'm okay with making only one Shiki if he's worth something. And then later on, an "awakened" Nanaya can get different things.

According to what I have read, Lumina takes place 10 days before the start of Remake and wants to explore "what if" scenarios of characters meeting each other before being introduced proper.

So I guess anything's possible. I mean this is Nasu we're talking about, the same person who considers everything in FGO to be canon even the events in between main story chapters.

Not a fan of HD sprites.  :sweatdrop:

Now that we have 3 games of the same style there's a lack of variety. I guess the good side of it is we possibly might get a triple crossover?

I'm not even surprised they're reusing assets from other games. I swear I heard DBFC hit sounds from the trailer.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: MAO11 on April 01, 2021, 09:25:52 am
so the moons aren't grooves anymore but somewhat a meter probably like a ultra meter from sf4.


wait did arcued had a super like that in the previous games? i remember all her supers are chains .... and rajaa's arcued had a super like that.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: aokmaniac13 on June 23, 2021, 01:51:50 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4kBisdXEAIU1Qy?format=jpg&name=large)

We have a release date!

Also Hisui and Kohaku confirmed
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Post by: Kohaku~★ on June 23, 2021, 02:12:58 pm
New trailer

Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!!
Post by: yaret on June 23, 2021, 03:36:19 pm
New trailer

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0qmAItlSAs[/youtube]
This game  has just bigger sprites than the last one
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Kohaku~★ on July 19, 2021, 02:44:13 pm
Shiki and Kouma gameplay



Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Byakko on July 19, 2021, 06:36:39 pm
I just assumed Kishima would be one of the first to be cut out of the reduced character list, glad to see he made it.
So the movelist is the exact same, just with fresh animations then. Meh.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Darkflare on July 19, 2021, 10:29:31 pm
I mean, what did you expect?
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 20, 2021, 02:45:53 am
I mean, what did you expect?
To be completely honest, I expected more moves. Not that I'm complaining, mind you, the game looks amazing and it looks really fun, but I just hope the gameplay differences are significant.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: D.R.B on July 21, 2021, 01:24:07 am
Hell yehh my boy Kishima is back, That alone makes me want to forgive them for making the story a prequel, I still wish they add new faces as playable characters
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: 087-B on July 21, 2021, 02:10:39 am
I was thinking on that tbh -- maybe they'll add in SHIKI Tohno as a playable character? Assuming Roa doesn't appear, or maybe they'll just make a new villain entirely.

I kinda had a bit of a theory earlier today that the more routes they add to Tsukiremake, the more characters get added to this game as DLC. Unlikely but eh, doesn't kill to be creative. Something like Satsuki finally getting her route and maybe Sion appears in it, finally adding her to the Tsukihime canon, and then she's made DLC for Type Lumina. Idk, just an idea.

Kouma appearing does, at least, give some weight to the idea of him playing a bigger role in Tsukihime remake as opposed to just being an illusory "final boss" in Kagetsu Tohya. This makes me believe Len might show up as well, since she's got a chance of having an expanded role in Arc's route this time around.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Kohaku~★ on July 23, 2021, 06:00:16 am
Arcueid gameplay

Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: 087-B on August 02, 2021, 06:35:34 am
Akiha's trailer is out and she's straight up got her F-Seifuku moveset. Kinda hype, love how she looks here! This is honestly the most interested I've been in Akiha outside of V.Akiha in Actress Again.

Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: rgveda99 on August 02, 2021, 06:49:05 am
Cool. They going with Jedah Akiha.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Handmaiden of the Seascape on August 02, 2021, 10:43:08 pm
Akiha's trailer is out and she's straight up got her F-Seifuku moveset. Kinda hype, love how she looks here! This is honestly the most interested I've been in Akiha outside of V.Akiha in Actress Again.

[youtube]https://youtu.be/-HJpHiPqt1U[/youtube]

Type-Moon can have my 70 dollars now.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Kohaku~★ on August 03, 2021, 07:05:18 am
Hisui & Kohaku duo character confirmed

https://twitter.com/AFGCNews/status/1422366409225539588?s=20

As much as I like this, it feels like a wasted slot for someone more unique especially with a small base roster at launch.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: 087-B on August 03, 2021, 07:14:43 am
Maids coming back, um... I mean I like it, but yeah. Kinda easy-out, waste of a slot. I hope this choice doesn't fuck over a more interesting character joining the roster, like Satsuki, or Nero, or Roa.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 03, 2021, 10:45:28 am
It's not really a waste of slot, because it didn't stop them from making another character. In fact, it seems more like an attempt to inflate the roster a bit more since they can reuse many assets from solo Hisui and solo Kohaku to have them occupy another slot as a pair, but if they added someone else, they'd have to make new stuff from scratch.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Kohaku~★ on August 03, 2021, 01:39:36 pm
they'd have to make new stuff from scratch.

That's the point. With a roster of around 10 characters you'd expect some diversity within the cast and not already falling into character alt territory. With the limited space the maid duo feel like padding. They may play different from their base versions, but it doesn't change the fact these characters were already there to begin with.

That's like if Guilty Gear Strive took their equally limited roster and added a Sol & Ky duo character instead of someone new or returning. It'd feel like a massive cop out despite the character being mechanically different. It stagnates the roster and makes it even smaller than it actually is.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 03, 2021, 04:51:42 pm
I don't think you understand. Their choice of adding the maid duo is not what stopped them from adding anyone else, what did stop them was probably lack of time or budget, which means that they would add the duo regardless of whether or not there were other characters, because the duo can be made playable much faster and cheaper than anyone made from scratch.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: 087-B on August 03, 2021, 05:09:54 pm
I don't think you understand. Their choice of adding the maid duo is not what stopped them from adding anyone else, what did stop them was probably lack of time or budget, which means that they would add the duo regardless of whether or not there were other characters, because the duo can be made playable much faster and cheaper than anyone made from scratch.

Which is a fair and understandable reason to do so, but it doesn't negate the fact that it's a disappointing pick and is still worrisome of how diverse (or not-so) the roster will end up being due to these possible reasons.

Maids may be a bit of an iconic Ice Climbers duo for this series, ever since the first Melty Blood, but it would feel a bit disheartening if the rest of the roster going forward is just clone characters. I know I wouldn't want three Akihas again... even if I would take V. Akiha.

It makes ME worry that characters I want to see return, who do have the chance to return given the new/rebooted timeline, may not end up returning and will be sidelined in favor of the much easier (and much less diverse and interesting) clone characters, either out of necessity of laziness depending on the actual reason. So far Type Lumina has been doing a lot of things right in the build up to its release. I can forgive Maids if its the only clone character on the roster, but if this is the start of a disappointment streak then I'd feel very remiss that Type Lumina got me all hyped up in the first place.

Call it what you will but I definitely think, given how the game has been promoted so far, that the Maids duo is a waste of a slot regardless of reason.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Umezono on August 03, 2021, 05:30:29 pm
this "wasted slot" nonsense has been a meme since the days of smash bros brawl. macaulyn is right, the inclusion of the maid duo didnt stop anyone else from being included, what stopped them was logistical constraints. if you're worried about the diversity of the roster, rather than being upset at pointless things like the inclusion of characters that require little resources, you need to be looking at the bigger picture of how much the studio is capable of. theres not gonna be someone more "unique" if the studio is just logistically incapable of putting in that sort of dev work.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: 087-B on August 03, 2021, 05:33:35 pm
this "wasted slot" nonsense has been a meme since the days of smash bros brawl. macaulyn is right, the inclusion of the maid duo didnt stop anyone else from being included, what stopped them was logistical constraints. if you're worried about the diversity of the roster, rather than being upset at pointless things like the inclusion of characters that require little resources, you need to be looking at the bigger picture of how much the studio is capable of.

I am looking at how much the studio is capable of -- I'm still allowed to be disappointed that Maids got in first over someone like, I dunno, Miyako, and to me its a slot I don't care to see filled. I'm at least gonna wait to see what comes next but I am disappointed Maids duo is in and that's a valid opinion for me to have.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Umezono on August 03, 2021, 05:39:32 pm
I mean taking the stance of "if Miyako isnt getting in yet, I'd rather they just not add a character at all" is silly and entitled, but sure, it is an opinion you can have.

If Miyako was not getting into the game already, Maids has nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: 087-B on August 03, 2021, 05:46:49 pm
That's not my point at all -- my point being, yes, the dev team may not have a high budget to make every character in the game as unique as possible. Yes, they may also be on time constraints given the game releases in basically a month. Yes, there's also the legacy of the character(s) in question that makes adding them a bit safer. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna be like, "Well, okay then. I understand why they're in, so it's alright."

I mean I get it, I do. But I'm still disappointed and uninterested. I just don't want the roster to amount to around 10 characters and look at the Maids saying, "you coulda been someone else, if only." They have valid probable reasons for being in the game, but said reasons just don't change how I feel about it.

At the very least, I admit -- it's just one slot, so I can stomach it. I suppose this is mainly my bitterness from other fighting games in recent years with how those projects have been handled. Smash, SFV, KOF XV, I have my own issues with those games and I suppose I'm just paranoid that some bigger issues would begin to plague Melty Blood as well. I wouldn't want the remainder of the roster to be made up of clone characters such as Shiki Nanaya, Mech-Hisui, or V. Akiha (even if I like the character). It would kinda make the remainder of the wait for the game feel very lackluster. Only time will tell, I suppose. It's overthinking things, I will admit, but I feel I have my reasons to be worried.
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Post by: Umezono on August 03, 2021, 05:59:24 pm
You've just listed a bunch of stuff basically explaining why you're acting a bit spoiled, and owning up to it anyways, so I don't have anything else to add there. Only thing I could say is that the inclusion of "clone characters" is very rarely a corner cutting measure as opposed to extra content that is added at a fraction of the cost of fully fleshed out designs. Budget constraints are set in stone, you're basically only gonna get what's planned out until the DLC hits. Unless the entire game was just one copy of the same character, viewing clone character inclusions as inherently lackluster is myopic. Viewing the game holistically and getting a feel for the development time and effort it takes to create the characters already there should probably give you some perspective on why such entitlement is a major impetus for the crunch culture in game development.

(https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dar/5845cadfecd996e0372f/f3995b483dfdee2acbfa23b8bfb5c1273e0e31a8/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5ibG9nY2RuLmNvbS93d3cuam95c3RpcS5jb20vbWVkaWEvMjAxMy8wMi9zcXVpZ2x5Y29zdGJyZWFrZG93bi5qcGc=)

In a hypothetical game with Ryu, Chun Li, Guile, Dictator all of this is fully utilized for 4 distinct character designs. The inclusion of Evil Ryu or some other clone cuts down on a lot of the cost, allowing for the inclusion at less stress to developers. Its basically extra content. When fans complain about how disappointing and lackluster it is that Evil Ryu is included over Zangief or Dhalsim, implying a market demand for more totally original content, you start to see the reason why rushed low quality games and crunch horror stories are a thing. Granted we are talking about Capcom characters, and big studios like Capcom or Nintendo have a lot more resources to work with. I am just using those characters for brevity- to show 4 distinct character designs that take a lot of time and effort to fully realize.

Idk, this is a probably an unpopular opinion for gaming subcultures where entitlement is a big thing, but I tend to subscribe to the idea that fighting games dont need huge rosters to be quality games, especially for smaller studios where the only way to meet expectations within the AAA industry would be crunch.

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Post by: Speedpreacher on August 03, 2021, 06:08:25 pm
A good thing to consider when you're inevitably disappointed that your fave Melty character isn't included is that this game is less about Melty being revived and more about Type Moon's push this year to see if Tsukihime is still a viable franchise that can make them any money
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Post by: 087-B on August 03, 2021, 06:13:15 pm
To respond to both -- all fair reasons, and honestly I didn't actually consider this being Type-MOON's push for viability. Fair point.

Honestly I do see how I sound a bit spoiled so I'm sorry for coming off as confrontational. I'm still not super interested in Maids but, yeah. Sorry for coming off like a buffoon, wasn't ultimately my intent. I also wasn't trying to make it about "I want my fave characters", really it's not about that. But I digress, I suppose any of that will sound entitled, so I'll hold my tongue.

Thanks for the discussion though, it at least helps me understand a bit better than I thought I did. Kudos.
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Post by: Kohaku~★ on August 04, 2021, 06:35:47 am
I don't mind the maid duo being in the game and I'm well aware their inclusion doesn't bar anyone else from appearing. What I'm disappointed in is that French Bread are already adding in alts of already existing characters before the roster even hit double digits with an announced roster of around 10 at launch which I'm trying to emphasize.

Then again I should be expecting this since It's Melty Blood after all with half of their roster from Actress Again literally being alts, just not this early.
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Post by: Byakko on August 04, 2021, 09:41:07 am
I'm just counting the roster to be "around 9".
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Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 05, 2021, 04:04:15 am
Here they are:

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Post by: 087-B on August 05, 2021, 04:46:27 am
I'd like to rescind my earlier disappointment. Maids now look more interesting to me than they have before. I'm glad they made sure to make them really fun to make up for the fact that it's two existing characters stapled together. Not that they never did that before, but now to ME at least they look very compelling.

EDIT: I also wanna add that the website hasn't updated to add in Maids (which I didn't think they would anyways) so I think this doubles as the gameplay showing of Kohaku and Hisui alone and together. Which is fine, honestly.

So I think... next trailer we see, will definitely be a new character, since now all the revealed characters have been covered in one way or another.
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Post by: 087-B on August 10, 2021, 05:01:31 pm


Hisui stand-alone trailer… guess I was wrong. We’ll probably get Kohaku’s in the next 2-3 days given the pattern of two trailers per week that Type-Moon is doing. Which is fine I suppose.

She looks pretty fun, I think she’s even faster here than she is in MBAACC. She still has setplay but they also present her as a bit more rush down? I like it.
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Post by: Kohaku~★ on August 24, 2021, 02:09:01 pm
Miyako Arima


Me Kohaku


Miyako is probably the most visually pleasing character to me so far despite her generic play style. Her animations are pretty smooth.
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Post by: ArtistofLegacy on August 24, 2021, 02:13:40 pm
Apparently there are 4 characters left to be revealed according to the recent Type-Moon Times, so that brings the roster to... 13?
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Post by: Byakko on August 24, 2021, 03:25:02 pm
... They didn't cut Miyako ? Her excuse was specifically that Wallachia made her strong enough to have any relevance. What does she have if this is set before Wallachia and before Tsukihime ? At this point I don't even know if they'll cut Nero, who is one of MB's most iconic characters, despite TM avoiding any mention of him like they want us to think he's not in the remake at all. (so far I was under the assumption that Nero might get cut under the excuse that this is a prequel)
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Post by: Kohaku~★ on August 24, 2021, 04:59:35 pm
If we're going by that logic then the only characters that remain would be Shiki, Ciel, Arcueid, and Akiha. The rest of the characters were only possible due to Wallachia's influence be it their fighting style (Miyako, Hisui, Kohaku) or existence (Kouma).
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Post by: Byakko on August 24, 2021, 05:32:17 pm
Hisui and Kohaku are joke characters, their whole movelist is comedy, so I don't count them ; and Kouma exists outside of Wallachia. I did originally expect him to be cut if the roster was downgraded to 10 characters but there's nothing that prevents the real Kouma from being included, especially if they want to give some more spotlight to his appearances in Shiki's life, like including the short story with Kiri and the flashbacks with Kouma in the mansion.
Miyako is taken more seriously than the maids here, the only way she appears in the story for MB is if her martial art skills are real and not an illusion. That or they go the other way, make a joke out of her like the maids, and have people in-story treat her as a kid. But that trailer doesn't seem to be going that way.

I'd expect Aoko before Len, if Kouma is the real one and not a Wallachia/Len dream. Nero and Roa are obvious bad guys, but I don't know how they'll go for it if the remake introduces new or revamped villains.
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Post by: 087-B on August 24, 2021, 05:38:13 pm
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EDIT: Oops I forgot about Aoko. Nevermind then, yeah. Aoko, Satsuki, Nero, Roa. My final four picks. If not Roa then maybe SHIKI, idk. I find it hard to imagine new characters in this one tbh.
--
Since Kouma is making an appearance, it makes me wonder if Len will be featured on the roster... my picks for final four characters are Satsuki, Nero, Roa, and Len. Just playing it safe tbh. (I feel like I've probably already mentioned this before. If I have, apologies.)

Also MIYAKO HYPE! H-Miyako became one of my sleeper picks during my recent Melty sessions and I've fallen in love with the character so I'm actually super glad she's back! VEry wonderful thing to wake up to and I know who I will be maining once the game drops. <3
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Post by: Byakko on August 24, 2021, 06:11:13 pm
Roa is in a weird position if they keep pretending that Lumina is only a prequel to the remake and doesn't include the events of the remake proper. Roa can't already show up if the Remake hasn't happened yet, and they can't have the original Roa to avoid "spoiling" the remake. SHIKI would be the obvious replacement, except the remake is only the Near Side, we're not getting the Far Side yet, so I'm not counting on anything from the Far Side (Satsuki being an exception because I'm assuming she'll definitely show up in the remake).
Then again they could have SHIKI shortly before he turns into Roa I guess. Or maybe SHIKI just as he turns into Roa.
So yeah. There's a lot of presumptions that should be obvious, but the claims that Lumina is a prequel and the remake will only have the Near Side throw a wrench in all of them. Even Nero is in limbo as long as Type-Moon is ignoring him in everything they've shown about remake so far and trying to make us believe he's getting replaced by that new white haired sword guy as "the ancestor hunting for Arcueid". (but since they're obviously reusing all the previous characters like Kouma and Miyako, at this point Nero will definitely show up in Lumina, he's too big to skip it)

edit - I just skimmed through one of the new videos on the TM Youtube account and there's piece of art for the remake with Ciel's redesigned executor outfit : https://youtu.be/2FGTo99Ca0A?t=1289
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Post by: Kirishima on August 25, 2021, 07:37:53 pm
Spoiler: Rest of the roster got leaked (click to see content)
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Post by: D.R.B on September 02, 2021, 03:45:40 am
New character


Glad we have a new face to make up for the lack of melty blood characters
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Post by: Kohaku~★ on September 10, 2021, 05:21:54 am
Roa

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Post by: rgveda99 on September 10, 2021, 09:24:31 am
Just noticed there's clashing now.

Also Michael Roa now looking like a Kpop star.
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Post by: yaret on September 10, 2021, 03:19:01 pm
Great.! we have finally a stage that isn't a real world in the background
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Post by: Sima Shi on September 11, 2021, 09:47:02 am
Akiha and Arcuied Gameplay




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Post by: Sima Shi on September 14, 2021, 07:23:00 am


gameplay number 2
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Post by: Kohaku~★ on September 17, 2021, 03:32:07 am
Vlov, new character from Remake
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Post by: Sima Shi on September 18, 2021, 08:00:47 am
Maids gameplay






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Post by: Kohaku~★ on September 24, 2021, 05:31:04 am
Final(?) character is Red Arc.



Despite being technically an alt, I do appreciate they made her appearance akin to classic Arc.
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Post by: TotalDramaXtremist on September 24, 2021, 05:47:41 am
Huh. She also looks less vampiric, too.

Interesting change, but one I can actually dig.
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Post by: Macaulyn97 on September 24, 2021, 06:17:10 am
I like how she uses the long skirt, but I find weird that Red Arcueid no longer has red magic.
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Post by: Kohaku~★ on September 24, 2021, 05:00:30 pm
This Red Arc is completely different from the Red Arc from previous versions of Melty. The one you're used to seeing is literally just Wallachia's fake version of Arc, while the one in Lumina is the real Arcueid where she appears during a certain point in Remake in Ciel's route.
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Post by: Macaulyn97 on September 24, 2021, 07:54:08 pm
I guess that is why she doesn't look insane now. Is this version evil?
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Post by: Byakko on September 24, 2021, 08:11:46 pm
Is this version evil?
She's mean.
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Post by: NGeo on September 25, 2021, 10:37:37 am
So .... no Nanaya i guess ? or maybe dlc ?
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Post by: Sima Shi on September 26, 2021, 06:35:56 am
Red Arc and Kouma-n gameplay




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Post by: MAO11 on September 26, 2021, 10:20:16 pm
So .... no Nanaya i guess ? or maybe dlc ?

probably but i think theyll add him in the vanilla game , i'm guessing the dlc characters might be other typemoon characters or probably sion.
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Post by: 087-B on September 26, 2021, 10:41:28 pm
No more vanilla characters. With Red Arc's addition, the website's character page no longer says "and more..." at the bottom, so she's the final vanilla slot.
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Post by: Sima Shi on September 28, 2021, 07:54:19 am
gameplay #2 of kouma-n and Red Arc


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Post by: Kohaku~★ on September 29, 2021, 08:40:53 am
Take this with a grain of salt until proven otherwise.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
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Post by: 087-B on September 29, 2021, 08:52:46 am
That looks so real, holy fuuuuuuuuuuuck... if it's fake then wow, whoever made it is talented as all shit.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
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Post by: TrinitroRoy on September 29, 2021, 09:37:24 am
Take this with a grain of salt until proven otherwise.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
except Red Arcureid is already confirmed to be the final character in the base roster, and I highly doubt that DLC has already started at this point.
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Post by: Macaulyn97 on September 29, 2021, 09:49:59 am
It could have been just a secret to reveal shortly before the release.
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Post by: Kohaku~★ on September 29, 2021, 12:40:47 pm
It's real.

(https://i.redd.it/art3udpk7fq71.png)
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Post by: rgveda99 on September 29, 2021, 12:44:03 pm
Will there be a future again for Fate for the 2D fighting game market?

From what I remember there was a 3D doujin game and that one time Capcom made one in 3D also. I think there was a 2D one with super deformed style. I can't remember.
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Post by: Kohaku~★ on September 29, 2021, 01:18:02 pm
Seibah


I think there was a 2D one with super deformed style. I can't remember.

Fate/Tiger Coliseum

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Post by: D.R.B on September 29, 2021, 02:57:48 pm
Seibah
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1-HAs4JSBE&ab_channel=%E3%80%90%E5%85%AC%E5%BC%8F%E3%80%91TYPE-MOONGAMES[/youtube]

I think there was a 2D one with super deformed style. I can't remember.

Fate/Tiger Coliseum

Well Since Arc made it into a fate game before, I can't see why Saber shouldn't make it into a tsukihime game
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Post by: Macaulyn97 on September 29, 2021, 05:31:02 pm
It's real.

(https://i.redd.it/art3udpk7fq71.png)
And I called it was a surprise reveal two minutes before it. My clairvoyance is unmatched!
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Post by: Umezono on September 29, 2021, 06:40:15 pm
sabers in? might have to cop
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Post by: Sima Shi on September 29, 2021, 08:15:29 pm
it seems someone made Last Arc vids just now




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Post by: Byakko on September 29, 2021, 08:37:25 pm
So Nanaya is there after all.
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Post by: 087-B on September 29, 2021, 08:42:20 pm
So Nanaya is there after all.

... where?
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Post by: Sima Shi on September 29, 2021, 08:46:39 pm
the panda
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Post by: Byakko on September 29, 2021, 08:53:23 pm
Miyako's comedy manga has her being a few years older at school learning combat under this mysterious guy in a panda disguise who somehow has the same voice as Nanaya Shiki (because it's him). Also the writing on his back says Nanaya (or nanatsuya like his knife).
And the panda's animations are all the same as Nanaya's, lol. Even has the pose for his knife throw super.
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Post by: 087-B on September 29, 2021, 09:03:52 pm
Miyako's comedy manga has her being a few years older at school learning combat under this mysterious guy in a panda disguise who somehow has the same voice as Nanaya Shiki (because it's him). Also the writing on his back says Nanaya (or nanatsuya like his knife).
And the panda's animations are all the same as Nanaya's, lol. Even has the pose for his knife throw super.

.........................

I didn't even notice that wow lol

That's a 10/10 last arc holy shit. I'm so glad I'm a Miyako main.
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Post by: MAO11 on September 29, 2021, 09:48:42 pm
so hisui/kohaku duo has the same last arc as their solo.
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Post by: Macaulyn97 on September 30, 2021, 01:09:15 am
By the way, I found a video of the story before the remake and I didn't know that almost every girl in the game wanted to fuck Shiki, nor did I know that Len basically became relevant in a hentai sequel, also, the lore is weird as fuck and has a lot of fucked up shit in it.
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Post by: 087-B on September 30, 2021, 01:32:28 am
By the way, I found a video of the story before the remake and I didn't know that almost every girl in the game wanted to fuck Shiki, nor did I know that Len basically became relevant in a hentai sequel, also, the lore is weird as fuck and has a lot of fucked up shit in it.

Uhhh yep OG Tsukihime is an eroge lol

The lore is wild and fucked up,
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
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Post by: Byakko on September 30, 2021, 01:38:18 am
It's a porn game about vampires and monsters and magic, welcome to 20 years ago
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Post by: Macaulyn97 on September 30, 2021, 03:04:20 am
I found out about the series through, well, not even Melty Blood, just through MUGEN itself. The first official thing I played in the franchise was MBAACC, which doesn't really have anything erotic in it, not that I remember, so it really was a surprise to me.
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Post by: Umezono on September 30, 2021, 06:15:57 am
thats because melty blood as a whole is just a "route" within the many, many branching storylines of tsukihime, and its one that is relatively tame. a lot of the sequels are basically what-if and alternate reality scenarios. since its a fighting game meant to be taken seriously theres really no reason for all the eroge stuff to be included.
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Post by: Darkflare on September 30, 2021, 12:03:27 pm
The eroge is just early Type moon stuff and even then it's only there because they didn't think it would sell well without it. It's why the porn feels more like an afterthought.... because it is. Nowadays, they're popular enough to not rely on the porn crutch.
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Post by: Byakko on September 30, 2021, 08:08:11 pm
Doesn't the remake still have sex scenes with Arc ?
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Post by: 087-B on September 30, 2021, 09:35:19 pm
Just spent about an hour fucking around online and playing matches as Ciel.

First, the online is so clean. I had no delays, or lag, or disconnects apart from one (but I blame that on me having weak internet). Bought the DX edition for the full $69.99 just cause.

Game is super goddamn fun, so fast and enjoyable and it doesn't feel like it's hard to play. It's easy to pick up but very challenging to master. I will be putting many hours into this going forward. Spectacular first impressions so far.
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Post by: TrinitroRoy on October 01, 2021, 01:08:02 am
Doesn't the remake still have sex scenes with Arc ?
...I want proof for that claim...
(not in the middle of this thread, of course...for obvious reasons)
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Post by: JudaiZX on October 02, 2021, 12:36:14 pm
Doesn't the remake still have sex scenes with Arc ?
no
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Post by: Kohaku~★ on October 02, 2021, 01:15:08 pm
Doesn't the remake still have sex scenes with Arc ?

They still bang, but it's not outright shown only implied.
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Post by: Kohaku~★ on October 29, 2021, 01:52:17 pm
https://twitter.com/MB_LUMINA/status/1454011776161382401

4 DLC characters on the way.
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Post by: Mysticus92 on October 29, 2021, 02:50:59 pm
Also they're going to receive buffs and nerfs.
https://twitter.com/MB_LUMINA/status/1454011416336224258?s=20

Anyway, I want Aoko, Sacchin, Mio and Arach.
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Post by: Kohaku~★ on October 30, 2021, 03:41:29 pm
NeCo ArC LeEk
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Post by: TrinitroRoy on October 30, 2021, 04:28:25 pm
I wonder if one of the DLC fighters is gonna be Roastbyfe Stromberg
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Post by: TurnPile on December 02, 2021, 05:30:53 am
Hm...over a month and still nothing.
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Post by: ArtistofLegacy on December 22, 2021, 04:13:46 am
First DLC character revealed. Spoilers for Tsukihime Remake.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
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Post by: 087-B on December 22, 2021, 04:37:45 am
Did not see this coming at all. VERY PLEASED.
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Post by: D.R.B on December 22, 2021, 11:20:53 am
First DLC character revealed. Spoilers for Tsukihime Remake.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Regular Neol was my fav new character, but her loli version is my least fav, now why would they even go with her to begin with when she most likely isn't even a canon character seeing how she only shows up in one path in the remake VN?
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Post by: Kohaku~★ on December 23, 2021, 12:43:07 am
All routes are canon much like the original Tsukihime.
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Post by: ArtistofLegacy on December 31, 2021, 03:38:38 pm
Second DLC character revealed.



Both characters are free and will release on the 13th.
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Post by: Mysticus92 on December 31, 2021, 03:53:52 pm
YAAAAAS AOKOOOO!
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Post by: 087-B on December 31, 2021, 04:53:17 pm
CALLED IT. Super happy. Very glad she and DAN will be free, too.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: TrinitroRoy on December 31, 2021, 06:29:33 pm
Second DLC character revealed.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERsLz_eC6Ms[/youtube]

Both characters are free and will release on the 13th.

YES! YES! YES!
FINALLY!
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Sima Shi on January 03, 2022, 04:22:25 am
it seems it has unique interaction with shiki
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Post by: 087-B on January 03, 2022, 04:51:32 am
Those interactions all make sense, given their history. But god I love them, it reaffirms the personality this game has. I love you, Type-Moon.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Mysticus92 on April 10, 2022, 04:17:25 pm
Powered Ciel and Mario Gallo Bestino confirmed as last 2 DLC characters.

Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Mysticus92 on June 28, 2022, 02:20:15 pm
4 more characters announced! For now we don't know who are gonna be.
https://twitter.com/MB_LUMINA/status/1541038462740365312?s=20
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 29, 2022, 03:48:01 am
So, let me list the characters that are still missing from the game real quick. Normally I'd ignore clone characters, but with Red Arcueid and DA Noel, it seems like they're trying to make the clones different enough:


I could see them making Vermilion Akiha mixing her old moveset with non-uniform Akiha and releasing that as a separate character, she is popular enough for that and it would make both versions of Akiha more distinct. I could see Len or White Len being added, considering neither is in the base game and that they're trying to keep clones from looking the exact same, I could even see them adding both. I'm not sure about the other ones, I don't know much about the story, nor how popular they are, personally I'd love to see Archetype: Earth and Warachia, but I also believe they're gonna add at least one new character.
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Post by: ComboAssassin20 on July 02, 2022, 10:34:21 pm
it looks like more sprite ripping from this game
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Kohaku~★ on July 31, 2022, 10:35:29 am
Next characters are Neco Arc and Mash Kyrielight.
(https://i.redd.it/lflfnepq6ve91.jpg)
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Post by: WF4123 on July 31, 2022, 10:40:54 am
Next characters are Neco Arc and Mash Kyrielight.
(https://i.redd.it/lflfnepq6ve91.jpg)

Gurenyuuuu~ it is! Neco's back for a fight!
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Kohaku~★ on July 31, 2022, 10:59:02 am
Teaser vid
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Mysticus92 on July 31, 2022, 11:39:09 am
I can't believe this...
But I'm still happy with it since they're also upgrading story mode by adding sprites.
Next announcement, next week! I hope they'll announce Dr. Arach and Alice from Witch on the Holy Night.
https://twitter.com/MB_LUMINA/status/1553661295315992577?s=20&t=QR48BzH1F0gBpwicb3Cm4Q
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Post by: Resentone on July 31, 2022, 11:45:25 am
I'm personally still waiting for Nanaya to be announced since anything is possible at this point.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: MAO11 on July 31, 2022, 12:14:14 pm
Mash/matthew kyrielight is confirmed to be dlc? Thats nice
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 31, 2022, 05:20:15 pm
  • Archetype: Earth
  • Shiki Nanaya
  • Sion E. Atlasia / Sion TATARI / Dust of Osiris
  • Warachia
  • Akiha Tohno (without uniform) / Vermilion Akiha
  • Mech-Hisui / Koha & Mech / Neco & Mech
  • Satsuki Yumiduka
  • Len
  • White Len
  • Shiki Ryougi
  • Nrvnqsr Chaos
  • Neco-Arc Chaos
  • Neco-Arc ✓
  • Riesbyfe Stridberg
I'm not exactly surprised with Neco-Arc showing up, but I'm still surprised they did before many of the other characters.
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Post by: TotalDramaXtremist on August 05, 2022, 04:00:13 am
  • Archetype: Earth
  • Shiki Nanaya
  • Sion E. Atlasia / Sion TATARI / Dust of Osiris
  • Warachia
  • Akiha Tohno (without uniform) / Vermilion Akiha
  • Mech-Hisui / Koha & Mech / Neco & Mech
  • Satsuki Yumiduka
  • Len
  • White Len
  • Shiki Ryougi
  • Nrvnqsr Chaos
  • Neco-Arc Chaos
  • Neco-Arc ✓
  • Riesbyfe Stridberg
I'm not exactly surprised with Neco-Arc showing up, but I'm still surprised they did before many of the other characters.

I suppose that her meme status as of late may have played a part in her being included so soon.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Keku on August 05, 2022, 04:20:50 am
I don't know how anyone can be surprised...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Honestly quite glad she's dropping soon, I unironically greatly enjoy playing the cats in ACvB and AACC!
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Post by: D.R.B on August 08, 2022, 03:55:11 pm
I'm personally still waiting for Nanaya to be announced since anything is possible at this point.

I think Lorewise Nanaya in MB at least is tied to the Night of Wallachia who doesn't show up in the current timeline yet
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Kohaku~★ on August 08, 2022, 04:16:48 pm
In the original MB, lore-wise the only reason characters like the maids and Miyako could fight as well as the appearance of Roa and Kouma was also because of Wallachia, yet here we are.
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Post by: Resentone on December 11, 2022, 01:17:12 pm
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633229464582750209/1051472352061444096/FjsQ-WpWYAAMaDv.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633229464582750209/1051472352526995516/FjsRwzVUYAAXVLo.jpg)
Ushiwakamaru and Dantes announced for the next dlc.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Byakko on December 11, 2022, 01:40:14 pm
What the fuck
lol Ushi got a body suit to dodge the underboobs.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Kohaku~★ on December 11, 2022, 01:41:53 pm
Before some people start freaking out as to why FGO characters are being in MB, there is some lore relevancy here regarding Dantes at least (dunno about Ushi lol). If I remember correctly Roa does exist in the Fate timeline, but is absent because Dantes was the one who killed him (using his black flames to kill him permanently) which is why he's depicted with Roa in his reveal trailer.
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Post by: Lurker on December 11, 2022, 03:23:49 pm
What the fuck
lol Ushi got a body suit to dodge the underboobs.

Nothing is impossible with color edit ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).
I like the bodysuit better, her original design is a bit too much.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Mysticus92 on December 11, 2022, 03:55:06 pm
I'm okay with this. Just a bit disappointed.
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Post by: Byakko on December 11, 2022, 11:47:19 pm


Dantes looks like he was made for this game, he's a perfect fit, he actually looks so good ?? Ushi, not so much IMO (I mean her style, she does look good), but hey we see another of her 5 Shanaoh Ryuuritan secrets apparently.
I like the bodysuit better, her original design is a bit too much.
Yeah, FGO just decided to not make any pretense right from the start with the practically naked lolis and it only ever got worse. At least Ushi got her model / sprites updated and it got a little better and older.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Sima Shi on December 12, 2022, 04:35:23 pm
so they add another 2 FGO characters  tbh they should have make FGO Fighting game
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: 087-B on December 12, 2022, 04:51:04 pm
I hope there's more DLC in the future. These two don't feel good enough to end on.

I'm personally not a fan of Fate, so while I didn't mind Saber and Mash, I'm personally a little bothered to see other potential characters get shafted, like Len or Sion.

"Sion can't work due to the story" means nothing anymore considering the story's been fucked to hell by the appearance of four Fate characters lol

Such is the double edged sword of including so many Fate characters -- if you're a fan of both properties, great! If you're a fan of one, it might encourage you to try the other. I personally just have no interest in Fate, so that's the side I fall on.

Still, I'm happy for those who are glad these characters are included, and Dantes looks a little fun (albeit a bit generic to me).
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Macaulyn97 on December 12, 2022, 07:40:51 pm
It looks like they're doing what Mortal Kombat is doing, ignoring characters actual fans want in favor of shoving an amount of guests thats bigger than necessary just to "appeal to a larger audience". Two is already enough, there are plenty of chars from MB itself that people want to see, if they want to add more characters from Fate, why not make a Fate fighting game?
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Post by: rgveda99 on December 12, 2022, 08:32:46 pm
Probably cause Capcom published one before.


Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Macaulyn97 on December 12, 2022, 08:54:14 pm
Yeah, a thousand years ago.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: 087-B on December 12, 2022, 08:56:07 pm
No reason a new one can't be made.



I mean they made a new Melty after 10 years so who gives a fuck lol
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Post by: rgveda99 on December 12, 2022, 09:12:50 pm
No reason a new one can't be made.

I mean they made a new Melty after 10 years so who gives a fuck lol

It's probably due to low or average sales. I'd love to see Daemon Bride or Sengoku Basara X get a sequel but I don't see that happening.
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Post by: 087-B on December 12, 2022, 09:27:10 pm
It's probably due to low or average sales. I'd love to see Daemon Bride or Sengoku Basara X get a sequel but I don't see that happening.

Low sales at the time I can get, but I'd be baffled if the same thing happened now. AFAIK, Fate's the biggest impact Type-MOON's made in the west, even bigger than Tsuki and Melty. Mostly thanks to FGO but, still.



Granted I could be wrong.
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Post by: DauntlessMonk7 on December 12, 2022, 10:47:26 pm
I hope there's more DLC in the future. These two don't feel good enough to end on.

I'm personally not a fan of Fate, so while I didn't mind Saber and Mash, I'm personally a little bothered to see other potential characters get shafted, like Len or Sion.

"Sion can't work due to the story" means nothing anymore considering the story's been fucked to hell by the appearance of four Fate characters lol

Such is the double edged sword of including so many Fate characters -- if you're a fan of both properties, great! If you're a fan of one, it might encourage you to try the other. I personally just have no interest in Fate, so that's the side I fall on.

Still, I'm happy for those who are glad these characters are included, and Dantes looks a little fun (albeit a bit generic to me).

Someone on Twitter said it's already confirmed they'll have an update at EVO Japan 2023.

And yeah, I think the story excuse is dumb (not to mention probably dead by now), but at the same time,
they probably decided on all these Fate characters because Fate/Grand Order doing so well was what lead to Type Lumina coming to fruition to begin with, from what I hear, as to grab people who play that game a lot.

In any case, while I have some personal preferences as to characters I'd want to see (Len, Eltnum, Ryougi, & Satsuki come to mind),
I think it probably doesn't matter too much as long as Type Lumina continues to get substantial updates/extra content for a long time.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Byakko on December 14, 2022, 02:26:33 pm
Gameplay
Ushi 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlbqOjxwr-s)
Ushi 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OozJ4fk2R8)
Dantes 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtNoRq9PO2Y)
Dantes 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RfZs2-1Mfs)
lol they didn't translate it but Ushi asks Shiki what mountain he's the son of. Because of the trope of learning magic and combat from mountain tengus. (and Shiki responds "from that hill, actually ?")
I'm annoyed that they just straight up translated cavern king like that.
Dantes has some of that Wallachia vibe, nice.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Kohaku~★ on December 15, 2022, 02:48:54 pm
In one of the endings in the new boss rush mode, a silhouette of Len (sprite) can be seen talking to Neco Arc. Might indicate her playable status in the near future.

(https://i.imgur.com/LbxODuK.jpg)

Also just for the record, Ushi wasn't censored in Melty. They merely just used her costume from her FGO 6th anniversary craft essence.

(https://i.imgur.com/8wtqwTG.png)

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Post by: Resentone on December 15, 2022, 03:21:03 pm
In one of the endings in the new boss rush mode, a silhouette of Len (sprite) can be seen talking to Neco Arc. Might indicate her playable status in the near future.

(https://i.imgur.com/LbxODuK.jpg)

Spoiler: Datamined Files (click to see content)
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: 087-B on December 15, 2022, 04:26:03 pm
Ahhhhhhh if we get Nanaya and Len DLC, I’d pay for that shit in a heartbeat. Lesgoooooo.


Don’t end on Ushi and Dantes please dear lord.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: Macaulyn97 on December 15, 2022, 04:40:34 pm
The game seems to be successful for it's size, so I doubt it will end anytime soon. They can do what Street Fighter 5 did and support it with lots of DLC for a few years.
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Post by: Mysticus92 on December 15, 2022, 08:12:17 pm
Yes, please! This game really deserve more support since Len is teased. I also want Nanaya and of course Ryougi.
Title: Re: Melty Blood Type Lumina has been announced!! Release date 9/30/2021!!
Post by: 087-B on December 16, 2022, 04:08:59 pm
Neco-Arc teased that she has more invasion plan ideas. And given how much these last couple boss rushes deal with the Multiverse, and even old MB Miyako makes an appearance as a boss, I wonder if the next possible DLC wave could be an invasion of classic Melty characters. Len, Nanaya, Sion, Nero, Ryougi… I dunno. It could be fun. And a cheap and easy way to get them back into the game.



Why do I feel like we’re just gunning for an HD remake of AACC by this point lol