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Poll: Which engine version do you use the most?
#1  June 15, 2022, 05:42:49 PM
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So I've been running this poll in my signature for a few weeks and I thought I might as well put it up in a thread for future reference, since such a poll hasn't been run in a while. The results surprised me a bit, even if only a few people voted.
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#2  June 15, 2022, 05:48:10 PM
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I missed this, I cast me vote rightaway though :)
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#3  June 15, 2022, 06:05:36 PM
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I am one of the two that voted dos engine :P dos engine seldom frustrated me where i was having fun back in the dos era, i used dxwho method to play dos engine until i changed my pc recentely
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#4  June 15, 2022, 06:28:38 PM
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So I've been running this poll in my signature for a few weeks and I thought I might as well put it up in a thread for future reference, since such a poll hasn't been run in a while. The results surprised me a bit, even if only a few people voted.

I doubt those results are anywhere close to accurate. Majority use 1.0 and a good number have switched to 1.1. Ikemen is now getting popular but nowhere close to 1.0 and 1.1 popularity. Ikemen is definitely the future though just not at this moment.
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#5  June 15, 2022, 06:31:59 PM
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Yeah I think you're right. Perhaps a better assessment is just searching YouTube.
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#6  June 15, 2022, 07:31:12 PM
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Well, I really liked Ikemen Go.
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#7  June 15, 2022, 09:49:38 PM
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I tend to play Mugen 1.1 usually, but over the last year I've been jumping a lot over to Ikemen Go. So, it's usually a mix between them both, depends on the mood. Ikemen Go is the best I think, but I hope it's evolution with qualities of life keeps improving, then there will be less reason to go back to normal mugen.
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#8  June 15, 2022, 09:56:05 PM
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I am on Mugen 1.1 till this day and haven't had problems with it. People say Ikeman go is good but until becomes more user friendly I will stick to Mugen 1.1 since it's much simpler remapping the buttons on your controller compared to Ikeman.
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#9  June 15, 2022, 10:52:57 PM
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I still opting for WinMugen, but recently my Windows 10 crashes it a lot so I can't use it anymore for more than a couple of battles without a crash, so I've to move to 1.0... I hate there's no other program like MWC to configuring MUGEN as I wanted, but there's nothing I can do about that u_u
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#10  June 15, 2022, 11:09:59 PM
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Mugen 1.1b :fuuu:

2Dee4ever got me thinking about ikemen :idea2:

When I completed my edited screenpacks, I'll try to convert them in ikemen :speechless:

It's going to be GREAT!! But now I have A LOT of learning to do. That's why I'm currently using Mugen 1.1b :book:



What engine you use, Phantom? :huh2:
Last Edit: June 17, 2022, 03:23:23 AM by Emerie The G.O.A.T
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#11  June 19, 2022, 05:05:39 PM
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I have not switched to Ikemen yet for several reasons but for what I want to do, just jump in smash a few heads from time to time Mugen 1.1 is perfectly fine for me.

I will probably switch to Ikemen at one point but I am not sure when.
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#12  June 19, 2022, 05:39:27 PM
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1.1 because makes everything about graphics so much easy and clean.

That said, didn't really had much time with 1.0 (a month or so?) to notice other differences asides from running great at 1280x720
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#13  June 19, 2022, 05:44:47 PM
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#14  June 19, 2022, 05:49:05 PM
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What engine you use, Phantom? :huh2:
1.0 up until recently. Now I'm exploring Ikemen Go. It's a tough choice because I know that if I make things for Ikemen then less people will play with them, but at the same time if everyone keeps doing things for Mugen we can never move forward.
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#15  June 19, 2022, 07:43:23 PM
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With Ikemen for me personally, im most excited about the new universal buffer system that Gacel is working on last time I spoke to him.

Hopefully when that comes out and is ironed out ofc, ill prob switch.
I could care less about the fancy menus, screens, online, etc, though setting up arcade per char is cool, also having multiple version of chars in 1 slot.

One thing also to take into consideration, Ikemen has higher system requirements than mugen from my experience at least, so its going to take time for everyone to switch.

I fully agree that Ikemen is the future though, and I feel that most of its issues per say are tied to staying compatible with mugen, a good example would be the shit inputs.
Last Edit: June 19, 2022, 07:48:29 PM by PeXXeR
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#16  June 19, 2022, 08:00:05 PM
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Actually the inputs are a separate matter and as it stands Mugen's input parser is still better than Ikemen's. I'm sure that's about to change though.

The future will be interesting because there will be Mugen, Ikemen (Go), Mugenext and probably other engines, and developers will have to pick one (or stay with Mugen and pass on all the new features).
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#17  June 19, 2022, 08:28:13 PM
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1.0 up until recently. Now I'm exploring Ikemen Go. It's a tough choice because I know that if I make things for Ikemen then less people will play with them, but at the same time if everyone keeps doing things for Mugen we can never move forward.

Type Shit :laugh3:

I never tried ikemen :fuuu:
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#18  June 20, 2022, 10:06:19 AM
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Actually the inputs are a separate matter and as it stands Mugen's input parser is still better than Ikemen's. I'm sure that's about to change though.

The future will be interesting because there will be Mugen, Ikemen (Go), Mugenext and probably other engines, and developers will have to pick one (or stay with Mugen and pass on all the new features).

Last I spoke to Gacel, he mentioned that he is working on fixing the inputs, me and my pals that have been playing fighting games for 20 years immediately noticed the difference when people started using Explod and Tiny buffering when we play locally.
Last Edit: June 20, 2022, 10:09:22 AM by PeXXeR
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#19  July 02, 2022, 07:54:45 PM
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There is such a thing called Turtlewax, aka JZ & Vans deep buffering system, rewritten specifically for IKEMEN GO. The zss version was rewritten by Jesuszilla and the lua version was more recently remade by kamekaze. Both are which are very good, and fix double press issues. Doing akuma's ashura senkuu has never felt easier!

The great part about this deep buffering system exclusively for IKEMEN GO, is that you can apply it simply very easily to any character. It no longer looks like a jumbled mess like it does in MUGEN.

Code:
[State -1, Hadouken]
type = ChangeState
value = 1000
triggerall = !AIlevelF
triggerall = Map(QCF)
triggerall = Map(a)||Map(b)||Map(c) || Map(r_a)|| Map(r_b)|| Map(r_c)
triggerAll = power >= 500 && var(20) <= 60
trigger1 = ctrl || StateNo = 40 || StateNo = 52 || (StateNo = [100,101])
trigger2 = var(6)

With how simple it is to implement these command buffers, you could take older works like Warusaki3's stuff or even other Japanese creators work and very easily implement the new a better command buffers, without needing to do the insane shitload amount of work you would have to do in MJGEN.

Also, if someone is using mostly stuff from Jmorphman/Karma C type of work, they already got explodsive buffer, so there's no need to use the default ikemen  input system.

MUGEN is still more popular due to how long it has been around, and because many MUGEN users are usually content with the lack of online fight capabilities (not everyone can use parsec). IKEMEN GO on the other hand has a growing fighting player base which is good, due to how easy it is to get matchmaking done.
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#20  July 02, 2022, 10:03:05 PM
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I think people should wait and see what Ikemen Go's buffer ends up like being before venturing into modifying existing Mugen characters. There's a few basic features planned that by themselves will already make it better than Mugen's.
I mean, I'll be using mine in my chars regardless, but still.

There is such a thing called Turtlewax, aka JZ & Vans deep buffering system, rewritten specifically for IKEMEN GO. The zss version was rewritten by Jesuszilla and the lua version was more recently remade by kamekaze. Both are which are very good, and fix double press issues. Doing akuma's ashura senkuu has never felt easier!
I've heard about Turtlewax several times but didn't know the history behind it. Thanks for the intro.

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triggerall = Map(QCF)
triggerall = Map(a)||Map(b)||Map(c) || Map(r_a)|| Map(r_b)|| Map(r_c)
This is well beyond the scope of this thread, but separating motions from buttons like this causes other issues.