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Release forum guidelines

 August 26, 2007, 07:34:13 PM View in topic context
avatar  Posted by DGJ  in Release forum guidelines (Started by DGJ August 26, 2007, 07:34:13 PM
 Board: Your Releases, older Mugen

1) Please select the appropriate message icon for the release you are posting about from the list that's available when you start a new topic.

1.2) You don't need to use textual thread tags like [Stage]! You've already got the message icons for that.

1.3) If the icons aren't showing up in the list, just refresh.

2) Try to be informative and include the name of whatever release you are posting about in the thread subject:
  • "Here comes the ninja!  Naruto released by T@KA" or "Ryu (Breath of Fire) updated."
  • not "The darkness has finally arrived in MUGEN..."

3) Recommended information to include in the post body:
  • game or other source of origin (if any) that your release came from
  • a screenshot of how the release looks in action in MUGEN

IT IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND that any time you make something publically available on the Internet there is a possibility that people might take parts of it, or the entire thing, and claim it as their own or do other things you might not agree with.

We strongly believe the damage caused by this is extremely negligible in case of a non-profit hobby like MUGEN, and that if you are uncomfortable with this unchangable fact of the Internet then you are probably best off keeping your releases away from public exposure altogether.

If you do choose to "go private," please understand that it would have to be you who decides whom and how to give access to your release, and that it would be up to you to try and make sure it stays "private," and not us.
    

Re: MUGEN Policies

 August 26, 2007, 07:31:40 PM View in topic context
avatar  Posted by DGJ  in MUGEN Policies (Started by DGJ August 26, 2007, 07:29:42 PM
 Board: Information


Well, I guess there's nothing left except for you to summarize!


Despite how it might seem (and what some people are likely to say), these new guidelines do not "promote" or "support" things like "stealing" or "warehousing" or any of the other things that a small group of vocal people would have you believe are horrible atrocities.  These are just fact of life (or Internet, in this case) things that can't be avoided, and frankly, we don't believe they're worth the time or effort getting worked up about.  These things only affect you negatively if you are more concerned with your ego/pride than you are having fun with the MUGEN engine.  MUGEN Guild has gotten to the point where people have to walk on eggshells when discussing anything related to MUGEN for fear that they'll get ostracized with claims of "THIEF!!!" or "LEECHER!!!".  How is that fun for anyone?

Hopefully, with the new guidelines, we can take focus away from screaming and crying about things that don't matter (and the associated politics), and return to development and enjoyment of the MUGEN engine.  After all, you release something so people can play and enjoy it, right?  If you're down with that, we look forward to your releases.  And if you're just here to enjoy people's releases and MUGEN itself, feel free to say "Thanks!" and "Awesome release!" to your heart's content.


What if someone "steals" my release?!
What if someone "warehouses" my release?!
This is ridiculous!  What about my wishes?!  I'm going private!

    

Re: MUGEN Policies

 August 26, 2007, 07:30:46 PM View in topic context
avatar  Posted by DGJ  in MUGEN Policies (Started by DGJ August 26, 2007, 07:29:42 PM
 Board: Information


This is ridiculous!  What about my wishes?!  I'm going private!


This is the solution for you if you do not agree with how we do things here (though, who wouldn't agree with making the focus of MUGEN having an enjoyable time??).  There are some risks you should be well-aware of, though.  Not everyone can be trusted.  People have posted private releases plenty of times and had them leaked to the public.  In fact, I'd be more surprised to hear about private releases successfully remaining private.  Make sure you're extra careful about who you share your private releases with.

With that said, we will not be enforcing private releases if they are leaked.  If it's leaked, it's unfortunate, but it's the result of you giving the release to someone that you shouldn't have.  Next time, either be more careful about who you give it to, or don't give it to anyone at all.


What if someone "steals" my release?!
What if someone "warehouses" my release?!
Well, I guess there's nothing left except for you to summarize!

    

Re: MUGEN Policies

 August 26, 2007, 07:30:17 PM View in topic context
avatar  Posted by DGJ  in MUGEN Policies (Started by DGJ August 26, 2007, 07:29:42 PM
 Board: Information


What if someone "warehouses" my release?!


Much like the issue of "stealing", this is another possible consequence of making something available on the Internet.  And also like the issue of "stealing", it will happen regardless of how loud you scream about it or how many people we ban.

On the bright side, the primary people who warehouses serve are those outside of the "community".  The people on the inside regularly check the MUGEN forums and will already be fully aware of the person who is originally responsible for the release, where their actual stuff can be downloaded, and any updates made to the creation.  In addition, I personally have yet to see an argument against warehouses that isn't based on protecting the pride of the person involved, and making rules/regulations based on irrational emotions isn't our goal.

But if it still really bothers you, just direct link to the warehouses' files on your webpage and save yourself some bandwidth money.


What if someone "steals" my release?!
This is ridiculous!  What about my wishes?!  I'm going private!
Well, I guess there's nothing left except for you to summarize!

    

MUGEN Policies

 August 26, 2007, 07:29:42 PM View in topic context
avatar  Posted by DGJ  in MUGEN Policies (Started by DGJ August 26, 2007, 07:29:42 PM
 Board: Information

With the changes that have been made, especially in regards to the kind of things that are "tolerated" here now, I'm sure some people are concerned about the MUGEN they release or have released.


What if someone "steals" my release?!


Whenever you make something available on the Internet you run the risk of someone taking it and claiming it as their own.  In MUGEN, it can be as minor as someone borrowing a block of code (something you probably wouldn't even notice in most instances unless you download every character and scan it for similiarities) to an entire character being ripped off.  This kind of stuff has happened since the beginning of MUGEN, well before zealots for the cause started popping up and screaming in every thread.  The fact of the matter is that there is no way you can stop this.  You can put stuff forbidding it in your readme and people can still do it.  We can ban people and people will still do it.

Furthermore, unless your creation is 100% original, the odds are you used sprites/sounds/concepts without permission (which some companies, but not all and it shouldn't be assumed as such, have said is okay) AND on top of that downloaded and used a ROM to do it (which NO company has or will EVER say is okay).  I'm not condeming anyone for such behavior, as doing stuff like that is the nature of MUGEN.  Instead I'm saying that causing a fuss over someone taking something of yours is more than a little hypocritical, and you should be aware of your own behavior before lashing out at others for doing the same.

There is a bright side, though.  If someone were to, say, take the Street Fighter Alpha Chun-Li you converted for MUGEN, give it evil colors and label it "Evil Chun-Li", it's highly likely that no one would be fooled and that person would get no love from your peers.  In addition, no matter what someone else does with your release, it can't take away from the experience you had making it and the value of the release itself.


What if someone "warehouses" my release?!
This is ridiculous!  What about my wishes?!  I'm going private!
Well, I guess there's nothing left except for you to summarize!

    

Re: the torrent

 April 21, 2006, 04:32:08 PM View in topic context
avatar  Posted by DGJ  in the torrent (Started by Valodim April 20, 2006, 10:59:32 PM
 Board: M.U.G.E.N Discussion

'06 :P

and if we have a bunch of chars... well... why not include a screenpack?

Giving it a special name/screenpack/theme causes it to stop being a torrent of characters that people can add to their MUGEN and become a torrent of a full game.  That wasn't the original intention, from what I understand.
    

Re: Mugen Web Sites (advertise here)

 April 21, 2006, 06:13:59 AM View in topic context
avatar  Posted by DGJ  in Mugen Web Sites (advertise here) (Started by Just No Point March 29, 2006, 03:00:27 PM
 Board: Introductions and Guides

Stupid board-specific codes.
    

Re: Mugen Web Sites (advertise here)

 April 21, 2006, 06:00:29 AM View in topic context
avatar  Posted by DGJ  in Mugen Web Sites (advertise here) (Started by Just No Point March 29, 2006, 03:00:27 PM
 Board: Introductions and Guides

    

Re: the torrent

 April 21, 2006, 04:43:41 AM View in topic context
avatar  Posted by DGJ  in the torrent (Started by Valodim April 20, 2006, 10:59:32 PM
 Board: M.U.G.E.N Discussion

While I think this torrent thing will create more problems than it'll solve, I don't understand why you think it needs to have a name/screenpack.  Why can't you just offer a torrent of characters (and maybe stages) and just let that be it?
    

Valodim's Thread

 April 10, 2006, 03:51:20 AM View in topic context
avatar  Posted by DGJ  in Valodim's Thread 2006 (Started by Valodim December 31, 2005, 02:07:29 AM
 Board: Feedback

Post count wouldn't be quite as necessary if we weren't able to change our display name, but since we can, it greatly helps reduce confusion, and saves quite a bit of full profile page checking.

It's not like if Titiln suddenly changed his name I'd be able to recognize him by the number of posts he makes.  I'd be able to see he was a person who has made of lot of posts, yes, but that doesn't distinguish him from the hundreds of other Guild members who have made a lot of posts.

If that's your big concern, you should make a push to have the changing of display names removed.
    

Valodim's Thread

 April 10, 2006, 03:19:35 AM View in topic context
avatar  Posted by DGJ  in Valodim's Thread 2006 (Started by Valodim December 31, 2005, 02:07:29 AM
 Board: Feedback

I don't see what the point of post counts is and there's really no difference between custom title and personal text, so good job on finally getting rid of some useless stuff.
    

Re: Post your picture thread

 April 06, 2006, 06:38:58 PM View in topic context
avatar  Posted by DGJ  in Post your picture thread (Started by Gaptooth INC. April 02, 2006, 11:06:12 PM
 Board: All That's Left

Whatta sausagefest.