Life draining moves and perfects

[Foobs]

So I was playing Matrimelee the other day and noticed that if you use a life draining move (Elias') to refill your lifebar you could score perfect, despite of taking damage. Same thing for Rage of the dragons and Soul Calibur IV.

Does this apply to other games?

[Duos.act]

I am pretty sure Shuma Gorath can do that in the Marvel vs series.

[SnowShingo]

i'm pretty sure heidern in KOF could do that with his life drain attacks. i don't think there's been a character in SF history that's had life drain moves, but elena  in sf3 can get perfects is she uses her healing super.

[Kirishima]

Shang Tsung in MK vs DC has this kind of move.

[Jesuszilla]

But does it give him a perfect?

I don't remember whether or not Heidern's did that. I want to say it didn't but I think I'd be wrong there.

[Starlogical]

Yoshimitsu from Tekken has a drain move.
I don't think it was in the first 2 tekkens though.

[Foobs]

But does it give him a perfect?

[Darkflare]

Ragna can do this in Blazblue.

[Jesuszilla]

But does it give him a perfect?

Goddammit, read the fucking topic.

[Starlogical]

But does it give him a perfect?

Yeah, but I do find it hard to do so, yoshimitsu's drain doesn't really heal that much, and I find it kinda hard to do the command.
Maybe it's the playstation dpad.

I don't see why developers can't make it so that characters can't heal fully.

[Cyanide]

You get perfects with omega red doing that. You can also get a perfect by using kensou's rice bun.

AFAIK perfects really only look at your life at the end of the round, not if you got hit.

[Xhominid]

Ragna can do this in Blazblue.

CT or CS?

CS seemingly doesn't give Ragna a Perfect if he gets his health to full.

[Loona]

I remember seeing Heidern getting a perfect this way in 95, but don't recall seeing a similar situation in later games.

[Basara Bogard]

I am pretty sure Shuma Gorath can do that in the Marvel vs series.

Yes, he does. It's one of his normal grabs, when he picks enemy with his tentacles and absorbs life (I used all the time, very useful)

I think in general if you get a character that drain life you can win with a perfect. In the end, the game only noticed about how much your lifebar is full/empty, not about damage you received in a fight. So, I think every character that can drain life sure can win with perfect, no matter if he received damage.

But... I've the doubt about Marvel Super Heroes, the Life gem especifically (that can gains life if you didn't hit)

[GOH]

Yoshimitsu from Tekken has a drain move.
I don't think it was in the first 2 tekkens though.

Nope. Only in T3 and beyond. I have the game I can check if a perfect is possible.

[Darkflare]

Ragna can do this in Blazblue.

CT or CS?

CS seemingly doesn't give Ragna a Perfect if he gets his health to full.

Both. CS Ragna's life draining just isn't as noticeable.

[Loud Howard]

i still remember of leona using Life-Draining attacks, but idk what KoF was

[Loona]

i still remember of leona using Life-Draining attacks, but idk what KoF was

IIRC it looked that way, but only did damage, if you're talking about the Grateful Dead DM.

[Bea]

She had a life draining move on KOF96 GB, and you could get a perfect with it.

[Loona]

She had a life draining move on KOF96 GB, and you could get a perfect with it.

The Orochi mode specific to that version, I take it? I know the alternate characters got some different things, but the regular versions didn't get major modifications.