The Mugen Fighters Guild - Birdie (CVS/POTS)

Rabano

Birdie (CVS/POTS)

#1 January 21, 2023, 09:04:07 pm

Just a little something I did, I took Varo_Hares Birdie and I edited it with some extra moves from Noctis Birdie.

Now he has the same moves the original Birdie + SF V Dolphin Dive, Bull Horn, Voice lines and LVL3 Super "Skip to my chain"

It took me a while but I think its ready to be use, but in case someone found a bug or missing feature, just tell me so I can fix it as soon as I can.

I hope you like it ^^

Credits to Varo_Hares and Noctis.

Download Link ----------------------------------> https://www.mediafire.com/file/4omerrrun3fts83/Birdie+POTS.rar/file

Last Edit: January 24, 2023, 02:42:37 am by Rabano

Momotaro

Re: Birdie (CVS/POTS)

#2 January 21, 2023, 10:45:52 pm

A.K.A. NED
I like to draw fighting game characters...

OMG ! What a great idea!
I'm testing it right now!
Thanks for the release!

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Smoker5

Re: Birdie (CVS/POTS)

#3 January 21, 2023, 11:39:24 pm

Online

thanks for sharing like

Toni

Re: Birdie (CVS/POTS)

#4 January 22, 2023, 02:12:21 am

1-Up

First impression is pretty good.
The negative edge version of his d,f+P special always does the LP version.
Also, a movelist would have been nice.

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Last Edit: January 22, 2023, 03:39:25 am by Toni

DauntlessMonk7

Re: Birdie (CVS/POTS)

#5 January 22, 2023, 04:09:19 am

I swear I've been working on Geese all this time.
Kind of POTS style editor, except not really.

Seems like a good start so far, but a lot of the frame data & hitboxes on the moves feels off, & the supers do way too much damage.
(I also prefer the charge motion Street Fighter Alpha had for Bull Head as opposed to the QCF motion Street Fighter V does, but that's just me, personally.)

https://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/dm7s-edit-release-thread-current-geese-howard-by-phantom-of-the-server-189762.0.html

https://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/dm7s-mugen-concept-thread-188677.0.html

Last Edit: January 22, 2023, 04:15:02 am by DauntlessMonk7

Akito

Re: Birdie (CVS/POTS)

#6 January 22, 2023, 06:44:20 am

Osu!
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Good work buddy, thanks!

PS: Have a chance for you put the original badaboom fonts in text of Supers?

WF4123

Re: Birdie (CVS/POTS)

#7 January 22, 2023, 08:18:04 am

"Forgeddaboudit"
Squawkabilly

Rabano said, January 21, 2023, 09:04:07 pm

Just a little something I did, I took Varo_Hares Birdie and I edited it with some extra moves from Noctis Birdie.

Now he has the same moves the original Birdie + SF V Dolphin Dive, Bull Horn, Voice lines and LVL3 Super "Skip to my chain"

It took me a while but I think its ready to be use, but in case someone found a bug or missing feature, just tell me so I can fix it as soon as I can.

I hope you like it ^^

Credits to Varo_Hares and Noctis.

Download Link ----------------------------------> https://www.mediafire.com/file/kwdghhkcfy7dwv6/Birdie+POTS.rar/file

This is better than original one, but I think I'm about to use it later.

Toni

Re: Birdie (CVS/POTS)

#8 January 22, 2023, 08:33:05 am

1-Up

Unlike your preview screenshots, the effect for his lv3 super doesn't have transparency for me for some reason.

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Macaulyn97

Re: Birdie (CVS/POTS)

#9 January 22, 2023, 09:24:35 am

If you used Varo Hades' character as a base and didn't fix any of it's many many problems, then this is just as bad as the original.

WF4123

Re: Birdie (CVS/POTS)

#10 January 22, 2023, 12:36:12 pm

"Forgeddaboudit"
Squawkabilly

Toni said, January 22, 2023, 08:33:05 am

Unlike your preview screenshots, the effect for his lv3 super doesn't have transparency for me for some reason.

didn't forget to use addition transparency on animation. and of course, only 1.1 and Ikemen would ever used that.

Last Edit: January 22, 2023, 01:26:58 pm by WF4123

Momotaro

Re: Birdie (CVS/POTS)

#11 January 22, 2023, 01:07:48 pm

A.K.A. NED
I like to draw fighting game characters...

I recommand to edit his feet position during bull horn (anti air move)
would look more natural (right now, looks like he's standing in mid air)

A move list would be useful ^^

still testing.

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Rabano

Re: Birdie (CVS/POTS)

#12 January 22, 2023, 02:48:10 pm

I've wake up and started improving the stuff you're saying

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Seems like a good start so far, but a lot of the frame data & hitboxes on the moves feels off, & the supers do way too much damage.
(I also prefer the charge motion Street Fighter Alpha had for Bull Head as opposed to the QCF motion Street Fighter V does, but that's just me, personally.)

I've started looking at that and Im trying to see how can I improve it, I also lowered the damage of not only his supers but some specials too.

Also, I tried to change Bull Head from a command move to a charge motion move, and I'll say I like it more, so now its just like in the Alpha Games.

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PS: Have a chance for you put the original badaboom fonts in text of Supers?

I can do and I'll probably do it, I just wanted to add a bit more personality if different characters has a different font for their supers, but I guess the Badaboom font its just too iconic for POTS character.

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Unlike your preview screenshots, the effect for his lv3 super doesn't have transparency for me for some reason.

That's weird, I tested it in 1.1 and 1.0 Mugen and it worked fine, but if its something that happen in a lot of cases I'll replace the effect.

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I recommand to edit his feet position during bull horn (anti air move)
would look more natural (right now, looks like he's standing in mid air)

A move list would be useful ^^

I wish I can do that, but that's what I had, and I can't make one myself because when I add a new sprites from another char, even if it has the same colors, it just get screw up with the palettes. until I found out a way to fix it I'll have to keep it that way.

Also, yeah, I feel kinda dumb for forgetting a Move List, I'll include it once I update the link

Sorry, I though this was in a finished state, I'll work hard to fix him.

Toni

Re: Birdie (CVS/POTS)

#13 January 22, 2023, 05:53:17 pm

1-Up

Rabano said, January 22, 2023, 02:48:10 pm

I wish I can do that, but that's what I had, and I can't make one myself because when I add a new sprites from another char, even if it has the same colors, it just get screw up with the palettes. until I found out a way to fix it I'll have to keep it that way.

Just using the same colors isn't enough. They also have to be correctly indexed.
Birdie doesn't seem to include a template palette, but maybe this can help at least a bit.

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Rabano

Re: Birdie (CVS/POTS)

#14 January 22, 2023, 06:46:02 pm

Toni said, January 22, 2023, 05:53:17 pm

Rabano said, January 22, 2023, 02:48:10 pm
I wish I can do that, but that's what I had, and I can't make one myself because when I add a new sprites from another char, even if it has the same colors, it just get screw up with the palettes. until I found out a way to fix it I'll have to keep it that way.
Just using the same colors isn't enough. They also have to be correctly indexed.
Birdie doesn't seem to include a template palette, but maybe this can help at least a bit.

I'll take that into concideration for future chars, I also want to make another version of Dee Jay for example.

On a different note, the "The negative edge version of his d,f+P special always does the LP version." I dont know how to fix it, I'll try to do it before reuploading the link

Tiger-Boy

Re: Birdie (CVS/POTS)

#15 January 22, 2023, 08:33:54 pm

"I'm Bal... I'm Veg...*Sigh* Just call me 'Claw'."

I was never a fan of Birdie, specially after his SFA appearance.

But I never realized that all he needed was a good voice pack. Heck! I never realized he hardly talked in SFA!

His AI seems balanced against other chars, and it's enjoyable to see fight.

I am now adding this char to my Street Fighter MUGEN game, and my MvC IKEMEN-GO roster.

Thank you for your hard work.

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Toni

Re: Birdie (CVS/POTS)

#16 January 22, 2023, 10:29:15 pm

1-Up

Some more bugs:
- The punch counter doesn't work (as in, the counter happens, but it doesn't hit).
- His lv3 is coded as a special instead of a super.

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Last Edit: January 23, 2023, 05:04:06 am by Toni

Rabano

Re: Birdie (CVS/POTS)

#17 January 24, 2023, 01:23:36 am

I Updated the link with some fixes and changes.

-Decrease the damage of his specials and supers
-Changed "Bull Head" from a Command move to a Charge Motion Move.
-Added a movelist
-lv3 is coded as a Hyper.
-fixed the Punch Zero Counter
-Retweaked some moves and normals to be a bit more faster
-Kick/Punch after Evade have different properties

Last Edit: January 24, 2023, 02:44:32 am by Rabano

Toni

Re: Birdie (CVS/POTS)

#18 January 24, 2023, 02:06:38 am

1-Up

To fix the negative edge commands in Bull Head, you have to go to the special, find the part that changes the strength depending on which button is pressed and add the code to make it do the same on button releases.

So, instead of this

Code:

[State 1001, Varset]
type = VarSet
trigger1 = Time = 0
var(10) = ifelse((command="y"),1,ifelse((command="z"),2,0))
IgnoreHitPause = 1
Persistent = 1

it reads this

Code:

[State 1001, Varset]
type = VarSet
triggerall = Time = 0
trigger1 = Time = 0
var(10) = ifelse((command="y" || command="rlsy"),1,ifelse((command="z" || command="rlsz"),2,0))
IgnoreHitPause = 1
Persistent = 1

There's also a small mistake in the move list for The Birdie: both versions show *Hold* B, F, B, B instead of *Hold* B, F, B, F

Pretty good update otherwise.

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