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Re: King Kai

 September 15, 2016, 03:21:26 AM View in topic context
 Posted by _kingxjosh  in King Kai (Started by _kingxjosh August 02, 2016, 06:19:48 AM
 Board: Graphics

Been awhile since I've posted on the topic. Ie been working on my shading and as soon as I master it I plan to comeback and finish.
    

Re: King Kai

 August 26, 2016, 01:47:10 AM View in topic context
 Posted by _kingxjosh  in King Kai (Started by _kingxjosh August 02, 2016, 06:19:48 AM
 Board: Graphics

That looks way better, Thanks! Shading has always been difficult so I'll try to emulate your'e style when I make the animation.
    

Re: King Kai

 August 26, 2016, 12:34:54 AM View in topic context
 Posted by _kingxjosh  in King Kai (Started by _kingxjosh August 02, 2016, 06:19:48 AM
 Board: Graphics

Not Sure about the shading, Think I should fix it? Opinions?
    

Re: King Kai

 August 19, 2016, 01:13:33 AM View in topic context
 Posted by _kingxjosh  in King Kai (Started by _kingxjosh August 02, 2016, 06:19:48 AM
 Board: Graphics

Sorry for lack of updates. Just got back in school, started looking for a job, and more. I'll try to start making some more updates on my free time.
    

Re: King Kai

 August 11, 2016, 08:53:30 AM View in topic context
 Posted by _kingxjosh  in King Kai (Started by _kingxjosh August 02, 2016, 06:19:48 AM
 Board: Graphics



So I went ahead and removed all shading from the sprite. Now based on the HDBZ sprites:

It looks like the light source would have to be in the Upper right corner. (Think so, I'm bad with shading :S)


Last post for today...Any Problems?
Tried to recreate the shading with the face and sleeves from the HDBZ sprite. Think it looks nice!
    

Re: King Kai

 August 11, 2016, 12:52:35 AM View in topic context
 Posted by _kingxjosh  in King Kai (Started by _kingxjosh August 02, 2016, 06:19:48 AM
 Board: Graphics



So I went ahead and removed all shading from the sprite. Now based on the HDBZ sprites:

It looks like the light source would have to be in the Upper right corner. (Think so, I'm bad with shading :S)
    

Re: King Kai

 August 10, 2016, 11:57:57 PM View in topic context
 Posted by _kingxjosh  in King Kai (Started by _kingxjosh August 02, 2016, 06:19:48 AM
 Board: Graphics

Now you have to think about the lightsource. That light on his stomach has to go, or if anything it needs to be fixed. The lightsource comes from above.

It seems you still haven't checked the sprites Balthazar made (why?!?), so I compiled a little spritesheet for you:

(only those that could be helpful)

They might need an update seeing how the style evolves, but they could be a great reference.

Thanks for finding them! I was looking but didn't know where to find them. Shading will be hard but I can do it.
    

Re: King Kai

 August 10, 2016, 08:52:11 PM View in topic context
 Posted by _kingxjosh  in King Kai (Started by _kingxjosh August 02, 2016, 06:19:48 AM
 Board: Graphics

I also used the colors used in the EB one. Think it made it look better.
    

Re: King Kai

 August 10, 2016, 08:50:23 PM View in topic context
 Posted by _kingxjosh  in King Kai (Started by _kingxjosh August 02, 2016, 06:19:48 AM
 Board: Graphics

I'd make his antennae a little thicker than just being 1 pixel thick lines. You know, like in the EB sprite:



I cannot help but to think his shading overall looks pretty basic. The EB sprite could serve as reference on how to handle the shading and contrast on your sprite.


Did I fix it?
    

Re: King Kai

 August 10, 2016, 02:51:42 AM View in topic context
 Posted by _kingxjosh  in King Kai (Started by _kingxjosh August 02, 2016, 06:19:48 AM
 Board: Graphics

Added the Antenna. I think it looks pretty good!


Also fixed some minor mistakes.
    

Re: King Kai

 August 09, 2016, 07:46:38 PM View in topic context
 Posted by _kingxjosh  in King Kai (Started by _kingxjosh August 02, 2016, 06:19:48 AM
 Board: Graphics



Think I fixed it.
    

Re: King Kai

 August 09, 2016, 05:52:59 PM View in topic context
 Posted by _kingxjosh  in King Kai (Started by _kingxjosh August 02, 2016, 06:19:48 AM
 Board: Graphics

There are literal kaio sprites inside Ssj Goku, why not base off those instead of making a first frame from scratch? He appears in 3 winposes. "training winpose" , "car crash winpose" and "riding with goku" winpose.

The win pose would make a better representation of a Z2 character if I use it as a refrence so I'll use it and make edits based on the feedback.
    

Re: King Kai

 August 09, 2016, 05:20:18 PM View in topic context
 Posted by _kingxjosh  in King Kai (Started by _kingxjosh August 02, 2016, 06:19:48 AM
 Board: Graphics

Gotenks is almost too small in game. Smaller character can pose issues. That's why I suggested making him a bit bigger.

I do see what you mean but I feel if i make him bigger it might mess up the short stocky look of the character. When I remade the sprite I did think hard about the size of the character. I feel the choice I made was good for him and it matched the source material too. When I add the Antenna he should appear bigger. That might help.
    

Re: King Kai

 August 09, 2016, 05:00:45 PM View in topic context
 Posted by _kingxjosh  in King Kai (Started by _kingxjosh August 02, 2016, 06:19:48 AM
 Board: Graphics

    

Re: King Kai

 August 09, 2016, 04:55:38 PM View in topic context
 Posted by _kingxjosh  in King Kai (Started by _kingxjosh August 02, 2016, 06:19:48 AM
 Board: Graphics


Quick edit. Had to fix the strip on the neck. Almost forgot that.
    

Re: King Kai

 August 09, 2016, 04:45:56 PM View in topic context
 Posted by _kingxjosh  in King Kai (Started by _kingxjosh August 02, 2016, 06:19:48 AM
 Board: Graphics

Here it is!


New and Improved King Kai! This looks way better than the last one I made. If you see something that looks off please tell me or you could try to fix it yourself. If not, I just gotta add the antenna.

And here is a size comparison to SSJ Goku Z2





Think its pretty accurate.
    

Re: King Kai

 August 09, 2016, 12:55:35 AM View in topic context
 Posted by _kingxjosh  in King Kai (Started by _kingxjosh August 02, 2016, 06:19:48 AM
 Board: Graphics

On the standing animation, before caring about the antennae would you see him moving like that?
Remember, moving parts of the sprite up/down and left/right usually doesn't give you the final product, you should always adjust everything.

Also, is this the size of the sprites you're going for? I saw you wanted to make him Z2 so you would need to make it bigger.

Before looking at it closely I thought you were using one colour for his skin. That's because of bad contrast.

Thanks for the feedback! I'm working on a bigger sprite with better contrast and some better animation for the sprite.
I might upload it today or tommorow. I think its coming together good/.
    

Re: King Kai

 August 04, 2016, 01:30:05 AM View in topic context
 Posted by _kingxjosh  in King Kai (Started by _kingxjosh August 02, 2016, 06:19:48 AM
 Board: Graphics

So i've been working on the animation.


Now I'm trying to figure out how to make King Kai's antennae not look static when he moves.
If you think you can help here's the Sprite sheet and the Piskel file (You will need to use piskel to open the file).


Piskel File: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_8PDdGx-fNwOThpUTE3bUxzbk0/view?usp=sharing

I also was trying to figure out what fighting style King Kai used and I came across these images.



Compared side by side, they don't really seem to differ much so I guess he uses the same type of Martial Arts as Goku.
    

Re: King Kai

 August 03, 2016, 09:37:40 PM View in topic context
 Posted by _kingxjosh  in King Kai (Started by _kingxjosh August 02, 2016, 06:19:48 AM
 Board: Graphics

I was also think of moves to give to him. I was thinking of giving him Kaio-Ken, Spirit Bomb, Energy Wave, and some type of move that will use his telekinesis. The only thing wrong about giving him Kaio-Ken and Spirit Bomb is the fact that he never mastered both. If I give him these, I might just make him use it in a much smaller form. Like when Goku uses normal Kaio-Ken against nappa and uses the spirit bomb one-handed.
Here's the link to where I got some of the info on King Kai from: http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/King_Kai
    

Re: King Kai

 August 03, 2016, 09:06:56 PM View in topic context
 Posted by _kingxjosh  in King Kai (Started by _kingxjosh August 02, 2016, 06:19:48 AM
 Board: Graphics


Was hoping to use this King Kai as a reference because this is the only Dragon Ball Z game where you play as King Kai.
Just lookin for something that's just has him doing his attacks.

I could use this.