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Been working on a new MUGEN Iceberg as of late... (Read 13283 times)

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Been working on a new MUGEN Iceberg as of late...
#1  November 09, 2024, 05:57:37 pm
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I tried to stray from entries focused on Cheapies, which is the case for most Mugen icebergs out there currently.

Any thoughts on what else I should put into it?
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Last Edit: November 13, 2024, 07:12:56 pm by RagingRowen
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#2  November 09, 2024, 07:05:49 pm
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Nice, I recognized nearly all of them!

Some potential additions;

- Chuchoryu. (Quite recognizable for a lot of different reasons)
- Duracelluer's King of Fighters edits. (Been converting so many characters into the King of Fighters: All-Stars formula).
- Sean Altley's S.H.A.D.E.S of Manhattan series. (One of the earliest Mugen full games).
- Slime. (Unless it goes under Hentai characters).
- "Paying for Mugen". (Some have been trying to get paid for releasing mugen content).
- WhizzyWhipitWonderful (One of the biggest creators within original CPS2 music in the mugen community, ever).
- ScruffyDragon. (Known for their comic book content and went silent for a long time and refuses to give out characters).
- (O). (Basically the grandfather of mugen creation).
- Kung Fu Man's Girlfriend. (lore).
- Kung Fu Girl.
- Cards War Saga. (A very unique creation to come from Mugen, can also argue the Pokémon project).

That's some that I had in mind.
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Last Edit: November 09, 2024, 07:09:00 pm by SkySplitters
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#3  November 09, 2024, 08:16:17 pm
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Wow, this looks impressive so far! Finally an iceberg that's gonna be more unique and won't contain that much stuff about cheapies! :)

Got some suggestions:

- Kong (known for his MvC2 characters that had inaccuracies, bugs and a cheap A.I. in their hard mode but contained some new stuff and even additional hypers).
- Forgotten characters (you get the picture).
- Characters using 3D models as 2D sprites (basically a character whose 3D model was used as 2D sprites).
- Claymizer (recognizable for mainly his two versions of Sonic, as well as his Pokemon and Kirby characters).


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#4  November 09, 2024, 08:56:57 pm
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Some possible interesting suggestions for the bottom tiers :

- MugenDEV & MugenREV forums
- Encyclopedia Dramatica article about MUGEN
- Original WinMUGEN 2002.04.14 private beta (was limited to only 2 characters and had a 10 minute timer before it closes)
- Leak of said build in 2003 and first disappearence of Elecbyte
- BrokenMUGEN HR (not sure if the one in the iceberg means the screenpack or the modified engine that initiated a C&D by Elecbyte)
- Gato_XI by Tin (password protected character so it stays closed source)
- MugenChina
Last Edit: November 09, 2024, 09:09:00 pm by KOFHƎRO77
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#5  November 09, 2024, 10:19:14 pm
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I am going to comment on some suggestions:
-Warusaki3 (Author recognized for his Ports of CvS2 chars and Some originals, along with his JJBA chars)
- Warusaki3's forgotten Chars (chars that not many people know about Warusaki3)
-Ikaruga (Author known for his ports from chars Kof to mugen, including some that were not in that style of gameplay, replicating many things almost perfectly)

- Forgotten characters (you get the picture).

How forgotten? Something like Kishio's The Oc's? (for example, the Girl that I have as my profile photo in this forum is Miduma, Oc de Kishio), or directly unknown to everyone?
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#6  November 09, 2024, 10:32:33 pm
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- Forgotten characters (you get the picture).

How forgotten? Something like Kishio's The Oc's? (for example, the Girl that I have as my profile photo in this forum is Miduma, Oc de Kishio), or directly unknown to everyone?

Pretty much characters that are directly unknown to most people. One example is Supermystery's Mega Mac Liquid(sic), released in 2007. It is mainly forgotten due to the fact that it is passworded and he later forgot it. Kishio's OCs are also good examples as they're kinda forgotten as Donald is his most well-known creation.


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#7  November 09, 2024, 11:05:23 pm
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Well I guess if I have to throw my hat into the ring:
- Alexlexus (Along with things like the interview he had with a firefighter and how the guy was laughed off by a Capcom employee when he tried showing off his "game.")
 - FourthRhyme (A MUGEN creator who has been criticized for how much of the characters he's made only exist to chase trends along with how he ended up getting into a bit of controversy when it was found out that he stole code from other creators.)
- Elecbyte being glad that MUGEN was leaked because it meant people liked the engine
-  Touhou Gensokyo Reloaded Anti- Modding Screen
- KadirV's Peppa Pig was made for Kadir's little sister
- chibasin's Kim Possible character
- Googoo64
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#8  November 11, 2024, 12:12:51 am
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- Not sure if this counts, but would "Ntcore's 4GB Patch" fit? Lots have usual trouble running 1.1 due to being OpenGL software rendering. The 4gb patch was the only way they could run it on the possible lowest specs hardware.

- "Gram Parson/Gramsen/Sumin2393" known for their KOR smash bros hybrid type chars (not sure if they're considered cheapie material, or many don't know this creator's existence well enough)

- I feel like OMEGAPSYCHO, DarkRuler, &/or DroneKiller could work, they're known for making quite a number of boss (not boss-type) chars
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#9  November 12, 2024, 01:05:07 am
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Updated the iceberg with a few more entries.

- Not sure if this counts, but would "Ntcore's 4GB Patch" fit? Lots have usual trouble running 1.1 due to being OpenGL software rendering. The 4gb patch was the only way they could run it on the possible lowest specs hardware.

4GB Patch isn't kinda unrelated to Mugen in the long run, so it's inclusion is a bit doubtful.

- Original WinMUGEN 2002.04.14 private beta (was limited to only 2 characters and had a 10 minute timer before it closes)
- BrokenMUGEN HR (not sure if the one in the iceberg means the screenpack or the modified engine that initiated a C&D by Elecbyte)

The Beta kinda ties into No Limit Patch assuming that's what it was made for, though.
May put that actual beta kinda low seeing the sheer rarity of it.

BrokenMUGEN is refering to the engine. You can tell by the Text Color.

- Kong (known for his MvC2 characters that had inaccuracies, bugs and a cheap A.I. in their hard mode but contained some new stuff and even additional hypers).

Kong is already there, on the 4th tier.

Thanks for the suggestions, peeps. Not all of them will be considered but there's still some good stuff here.
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#10  November 12, 2024, 05:45:35 am
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Great idea, and good to see IC is there too, didn't expect that :D

Well, here're some suggestions, don't know if they were considered before but here they are:
- MCM (the SFF/AIR/SND editor before Fighter factory)
- KOF20XX (the KOF parody for UFGE engine that adapted chars for MUGEN like KOF versions of Nintendo chars and even Bad Box Megaman)
- Scott Pilgrim vs. the World chars
- MUGEN Hispania (no needed explanation)
- TYPE-MOON's C&Ds to Melty Blood jap creators
- Melty Blood-styled anime chars
- 2000s MUGEN Warehouses
- TV Tropes' articles about MUGEN and their fullgames
- Len Edits (if there're Kula and Donald mentioned, she also should be there too)
- Tetchi
- Kuromaru
- Anti-Gouki Project
- Mortal Kombat Project
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#11  November 13, 2024, 09:41:36 am
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#12  November 14, 2024, 09:02:12 am
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- kgenjuro's j-dar 2: it is the first ever full mugen game that wasn't based on fighting game before tatsu's babel sword
- misamu k young's kofz: the first ever mugen game that featured simul mode disabled where player was forced to pick a playable character then followed by any character to be their striker if played in simul mode
- dj-van from mugen infantry was the first person hosted a tournament for mugen at an evo competition as side tournament, unsure if this count

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#13  November 17, 2024, 03:28:34 am
Some more suggestions:

- Andersonkenya1 (Both the YouTuber and his website).
- Touhou edits in general.
- Mathrus.
- Taydo and Lightningdood (Read Rossiter's videos on both of them and you see what I mean).
- JUS.
- Self-insert characters.
- Daniel clones.
- Spriteswaps.
- Ironcommando.
- Kung Fu Man edits.
- RicePigeon.
- Famous YouTubers like Vargskelethor Joel and CONEY have made videos regarding MUGEN.
- NSFW/Fetish characters/edits.
Last Edit: November 17, 2024, 06:34:00 am by Goose0Howard
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#14  November 17, 2024, 04:58:10 am
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I am a little weirded out by the fact that nobody has mentioned Josh Geary yet but I'm not really surprised given not a lot of people outside of the "dumb kid scene" of the early 2010s really cared about the controversies surrounding him.
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#15  November 17, 2024, 08:24:33 am
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This is an impressive project.  There are so many niche little corners of the community that have come and gone that you probably have infinite material to work with, but some of what we know as "Mugen Lore" may not be as approachable to people who were not in said circles.

If you're looking for things that may be digestible to the wider public, I do have some suggestions.  Apologies if some of these are already covered, the whole image wasn't loading for me, you know how the site errors have been lately.  I'm going to try and avoid submitting any "lolcow" or "cringe" related subjects because I find it to be a mean spirited practice that only serves to detract from the actual interesting history of the engine.  I'm also going to try and avoid things people have already suggested.

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Good luck on the iceberg.  If I think of any others I'll post them here, I look forward to seeing what shows up on it.
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#16  November 17, 2024, 01:55:28 pm
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Mugen Lair and its obsession about DBZ UB22 characters that HAD TO BE cheap because "in the anime they're strong" and "it's DBZ", together with mixed english and japanese voices. That site peaked in 2008 :mlol:
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#17  November 17, 2024, 02:13:41 pm
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    I may have some suggestions for the iceberg:

    -Training Room/Stage0 (The other stage included in all versions of Mugen outside Mountainside Temple)

    - ShinSamus/Shinryoga's Mario (The most edited char outside Donald and Kung fu Man)

    -Nocontextmugen

    -Character of the month/year awards

    -Compatibility states
    • Midnight bliss
    • Shock, burn and frozen states
    • Fatalities

    - DDR Creations
    • Saturday Morning Mayhem
    • Large & Way N Charge
    • Saint not!

    - Madoldcrow1105's Nickelodeon vs Cartoon Network (Cancelled project)

    - Team S.M.R.T.'s Meowth

    Warner related
    • Warner's two canceled Erradicator
    • Warner's canceled ssbb Wario
    • Cipitio

    -GeoCities Japan

    - Kung Fu Man's ending in Kung Fu Man Another History

    - Mugen character commissions
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#18  November 18, 2024, 01:56:30 am
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Adding some topics on here for the iceberg

Unfinished/Cancelled Characters - Characters that to this day remain as unfinished or are cancelled due to a myriad of issues from creators losing interest, burnout or PC problems (ex. Kuroneko by Sennou-Room still in Alpha state, I could count myself on here cause of my Jubei project I had worked on but scrapped, sff was the only thing completed, you can still find the forum post of his WIP and update messages on Discord)

AxSeeker - Infamously known for there awful characters and caused Loganir to quit MUGEN

CVSU (Capcom vs SNK Universe) - A POTS Styled compilation that is hard to find due to dead links and the creator known for throwing fits at people who critize him, and having a newer version of his project behind a paywall on Patreon

Choiyer - Infamously known for his Haruhi creation that slowly turned into a NSFW fetish character and also has some KOF characters that share the same fetish when KOd

MUGEN Roster Videos - self explainitory, people showcasing there rosters on youtube

Son Of Aura (SOA) - A creator that primarily focused on converting the Persona 4 Arena/Ultimax cast to MUGEN with mostly mixed results due to all of them being unfinished WIPs some either missing supers, specials and even to the point of having a non-functional persona, the closest to a "finished" character is Ultimax Teddie who has his Instant Kill all which none of there chars have, the last character to be released that's still isn't finished is Jubei from Blazblue Centralfiction who has no supers and astral and Yang from BBTAG. They appear to be inactive as there DeviantArt has been deleted
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#19  November 18, 2024, 10:39:25 pm
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Not sure if this was mentioned, but you could also include
—Gatekeeping / Private Communities
As this mainly focuses on the Japanese and Chinese communities that actively try to hide their stuff.

—Training (by Stupa)
One of the earliest test characters

—Showcase
Essentially the MUGEN videos that people actually wanted to see, as oppose to the millions of AI vs AI matches

—Mortal Kombat: Kiritsu Gomen
One of the first patreon exclusive MUGEN full games that got the demo leaked before the creator nuked all their stuff.
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#20  November 28, 2024, 07:26:15 pm
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Hello! It's me colobucci again, I return to this post to comment on something VERY BUT VERY interesting.

-There is (or was) a Zero (The one from SvC) Which was a "prototype" of the Pots Style. but this was never released to the public, and the only ones who saw it were Pots Himself (Phantom.of.the.Server) and Akito-San.

I know this information thanks to Akito-San Me sharing it on a Discord server, and he told me that if you ask PotS about it he can confirm it for you.