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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 (2023)
#201  August 27, 2024, 10:55:38 pm
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Of course the snowflake is going to write a wall of text and come back to ask me again about where it shows how they made the females superior when the answer to that question is RIGHT THERE ON THIER PROFILE.

also a female lin kuei?? Do you mean like Frost???? or have you forgotten she exists? they could have made her make a comeback and this time have a reason why she is so corrupted since Bi-Han would have had influence on her while at the same time adding a new female character since new faces is what MK1 actually lack , and even then it still makes no sense since if the into between Frost and Bi-Han in MK11 is anything to go by then its yet would be another retcon to Bi-Han personality since in said intro he remarks that he wouldn't even allow female Lin Kuei to begin with so him allowing Sektor and Cyrax in is already out of character.

and I still find it funny you call my take stupid yet weren't you the same guy who couldn't handle how they changed Sindel in MK11 where they made her pure evil who never cared for her family? yet I can't complain about unnessecery genderswap?
Re: Mortal Kombat 1 (2023)
#202  August 28, 2024, 12:50:04 am
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Of course the snowflake is going to write a wall of text and come back to ask me again about where it shows how they made the females superior when the answer to that question is RIGHT THERE ON THIER PROFILE.
Funny you're calling me a snowflake when you're the one complaining and editing my quote to "bluh bluh bluh" like a child would, but let's break this down one by one... nowhere in her profiles is it said the female versions of Cyrax and Sektor are superior to the males, and in fact, the male versions are not referenced in any way shape or form. Unless they edited it, but if that is the case, do show me the "old version", I'd love to see what made you so angry.

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also a female lin kuei?? Do you mean like Frost???? or have you forgotten she exists? they could have made her make a comeback and this time have a reason why she is so corrupted since Bi-Han would have had influence on her while at the same time adding a new female character since new faces is what MK1 actually lack , and even then it still makes no sense since if the into between Frost and Bi-Han in MK11 is anything to go by then its yet would be another retcon to Bi-Han personality since in said intro he remarks that he wouldn't even allow female Lin Kuei to begin with so him allowing Sektor and Cyrax in is already out of character.
So, in a game that is all about having their characters change from their original versions, you really expect Frost to be, again, a Lin Kuei under Sub-Zero? I mean, sure, she would be under another Sub-Zero, since it's Bi-Han this time, but to her, it's still the same. And no, I don't take the dialogue between them in MK11 into consideration, this is a new timeline after all. Frost would very likely be changed here, if they went in a different direction and turned her into Noob Saibot or even if they gave her other powers with a similar corruption, that would be cool and fit with this game's premise.

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and I still find it funny you call my take stupid yet weren't you the same guy who couldn't handle how they changed Sindel in MK11 where they made her pure evil who never cared for her family? yet I can't complain about unnessecery genderswap?
Yes, it was just me, wasn't it? Not literally everyone else, but I digress. Sindel wasn't just changed from the old timeline into another, she was changed from the very same game she was in. MK9 had her bio and ending showing that she was benevolent, MKX had Quan Chi (or was it Shinnok?) pointing at her among the "friends of Raiden" turned into revenants and MK11 itself had dialogues in which Geras talked about how Sindel loved Kitana and another in which D'Vorah talked about how she killed Jerrod, both of which are contradicted by Sindel's story in which she shows to not care that much for Kitana and being the real murderer of Jerrod. My complaints are about a timeline that, though the second, still maintained that a certain character was good, including in the very game in which the retconned plot twist ocurred, your complaint is about characters being changed in a timeline whose very premise is to be completely different from previous ones, with many of the changes having already happened in the first part of the story mode.
Re: Mortal Kombat 1 (2023)
#203  August 28, 2024, 01:21:22 am
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Of course the snowflake is going to write a wall of text and come back to ask me again about where it shows how they made the females superior when the answer to that question is RIGHT THERE ON THIER PROFILE.
If you would like to continue to participate in this conversation, then stop doing childish stunts like this "bluh bluh bluh" shit.
Re: Mortal Kombat 1 (2023)
#204  August 28, 2024, 01:43:16 am
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If you would like to continue to participate in this conversation, then stop doing childish stunts like this "bluh bluh bluh" shit.

all I did is quate the wall of Text that was posted , its pretty much a copy paste

Of course the snowflake is going to write a wall of text and come back to ask me again about where it shows how they made the females superior when the answer to that question is RIGHT THERE ON THIER PROFILE.
Funny you're calling me a snowflake when you're the one complaining and editing my quote to "bluh bluh bluh" like a child would, but let's break this down one by one... nowhere in her profiles is it said the female versions of Cyrax and Sektor are superior to the males, and in fact, the male versions are not referenced in any way shape or form. Unless they edited it, but if that is the case, do show me the "old version", I'd love to see what made you so angry.

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also a female lin kuei?? Do you mean like Frost???? or have you forgotten she exists? they could have made her make a comeback and this time have a reason why she is so corrupted since Bi-Han would have had influence on her while at the same time adding a new female character since new faces is what MK1 actually lack , and even then it still makes no sense since if the into between Frost and Bi-Han in MK11 is anything to go by then its yet would be another retcon to Bi-Han personality since in said intro he remarks that he wouldn't even allow female Lin Kuei to begin with so him allowing Sektor and Cyrax in is already out of character.
So, in a game that is all about having their characters change from their original versions, you really expect Frost to be, again, a Lin Kuei under Sub-Zero? I mean, sure, she would be under another Sub-Zero, since it's Bi-Han this time, but to her, it's still the same. And no, I don't take the dialogue between them in MK11 into consideration, this is a new timeline after all. Frost would very likely be changed here, if they went in a different direction and turned her into Noob Saibot or even if they gave her other powers with a similar corruption, that would be cool and fit with this game's premise.

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and I still find it funny you call my take stupid yet weren't you the same guy who couldn't handle how they changed Sindel in MK11 where they made her pure evil who never cared for her family? yet I can't complain about unnessecery genderswap?
Yes, it was just me, wasn't it? Not literally everyone else, but I digress. Sindel wasn't just changed from the old timeline into another, she was changed from the very same game she was in. MK9 had her bio and ending showing that she was benevolent, MKX had Quan Chi (or was it Shinnok?) pointing at her among the "friends of Raiden" turned into revenants and MK11 itself had dialogues in which Geras talked about how Sindel loved Kitana and another in which D'Vorah talked about how she killed Jerrod, both of which are contradicted by Sindel's story in which she shows to not care that much for Kitana and being the real murderer of Jerrod. My complaints are about a timeline that, though the second, still maintained that a certain character was good, including in the very game in which the retconned plot twist ocurred, your complaint is about characters being changed in a timeline whose very premise is to be completely different from previous ones, with many of the changes having already happened in the first part of the story mode.

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*facepalm* like how can I even reason with this guy? who think that everything has to be said right up to mean something, dude , maybe you need to learn a thing or two about reading between lines caz you seriously at this point is failing miserably at defending this  crap

2-a reminder you didn't like what they did with Sindel

3-and you seriously believe I'm the only one who is complaining about the change with Cyrax & Sektor??? just me and nobody else? stop living under your dan rock dude and check all the responds on any and all videos on youtube about this, a lot of people aren't happy about it, just becouse it's a different timeline doesn't justify it, if so then explain why no female character was turned into a man, it always the male ones

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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 (2023)
#205  August 28, 2024, 02:22:51 am
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all I did is quate the wall of Text that was posted , its pretty much a copy paste
This is not the response I was looking for.

If you want to avoid being banned from posting in this topic, then do not pull childish stunts like replacing every word of another user's post with "bluh bluh bluh". Just treat everyone else with respect, even if you personally disagree with what they are saying.

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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 (2023)
#206  August 28, 2024, 05:02:29 am
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*facepalm* like how can I even reason with this guy? who think that everything has to be said right up to mean something, dude , maybe you need to learn a thing or two about reading between lines caz you seriously at this point is failing miserably at defending this  crap

2-a reminder you didn't like what they did with Sindel

3-and you seriously believe I'm the only one who is complaining about the change with Cyrax & Sektor??? just me and nobody else? stop living under your dan rock dude and check all the responds on any and all videos on youtube about this, a lot of people aren't happy about it, just becouse it's a different timeline doesn't justify it, if so then explain why no female character was turned into a man, it always the male ones



I'd like to leave point 1 to last, because it really will be the closing part of the conversation. So, about point 2, yes, I didn't like what they did to Sindel, because it was inconsistent, they didn't make her a villain from the beginning, they established her to be a hero in MK9, they reinforced that in MKX and even in MK11, there were dialogues reinforcing this until suddenly it was all retconned in the update, so yes, it was bad, not because it was against Sindel's original character, but because Sindel's current (at the time) had been established to be similar to the original in that regard and they retconned it last minute. I actually addressed this in my previous post, but I understand it's hard for you to understand when you're reducing it all to "bluh bluh bluh".

Point 3 needs to be broken down a bit as well. First off, the main reason why no female character has been turned into a man so far is because, as far as we know, even with Sektor and Cyrax, we don't know if anyone was turned into anything, what we do know is that aliases have been moved around: Kuai Liang was Sub-Zero and became Scorpion, an alias which Hanzo lost, Bi Han kept Sub-Zero, though he will seemingly move on to Noob again, which will leave the alias free to be taken by another character maybe, it's very possible that the women that use the aliases "Cyrax" and "Sektor" are not the same people as the men who used those in the previous timelines. And if you remember the roster of Mortal Kombat characters, there were very few aliases used by women, IIRC it was only Frost and probably Khameleon.

Also, I don't live under a rock, I know there are a bunch of people complaining about this, and this ties in with what I want to address from point 1: there is no scenario in which there won't be any complaints. The roster is lacking in female characters that fit the story, so they add them to the Lin Kuei faction, because said faction is the one in need of more characters and the roster needs more women. People will complain if those female characters are entirely new and they will complain if those characters are either genderbent or just other women using the aliases used by men in previous timelines. People like you, who are inventing a supposed superiority that is NOT in the profiles just to hate them, because again, the originals are not even mentioned for a comparison to be made, because the truth is, people like you and a good portion of the others who complain about this change just don't really like women that much, and you're so desperate to not look like the bigot you are by trying to hind behind a logic that doesn't exist, but actions like calling people who call you out "snowflakes" are very revealing.

And that's why I said this will be the closing part of the conversation. You. Don't. Want. To. Listen. You say that I'm "failing miserably" to defend my point, but in reality, I'm doing an excellent job at it, the reason why you cannot see it is because you're literally ignoring it, and I KNOW you're ignoring it because I had to repeat a few of my points in this post because you didn't see them the first time I posted them. It was easier for you to just change my quote into "bluh bluh bluh" and call me a snowflake because then you wouldn't actually have to face my argument and realize how wrong and bigoted you are. But worry not, because I really don't feel like continuously repeat myself to someone that doesn't want to listen and want to whine about how the characters were made superior just because they're women, even though that was never a thing. As far as I'm concerned, this conversation is over. Sektor and Cyrax are women, DEAL WITH IT.
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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 (2023)
#207  August 28, 2024, 11:54:08 am
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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 (2023)
#208  August 28, 2024, 06:56:09 pm
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you're so desperate to not look like the bigot you are by trying to hind behind a logic that doesn't exist, but actions like calling people who call you out "snowflakes" are very revealing.

I definitely should not have called you snowflakes, and I need to apologize to snowflakes

I simply cannot treat your take seriously, but then again there is nothing wrong with bigotry anyway and let's just ignore the fact that if they changed Sindel and her daughters into men then me and the others would still not like it all the same and you can't use the argument that it's a different universe to justfy it, but don't take my word for it, im just a bigot for not being a fan of gender-bend