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The 504Gateway need to Stop AND MFG need a new Domain Web server (Read 15232 times)

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The 504Gateway need to Stop AND MFG need a new Domain Web server
#1  July 28, 2024, 05:49:17 pm
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what does it take to stop this annoying Gateway 504 from preventing Mugen fighter Guild to running to a float and what kind of steps that we need to take to keep this server from NOT crashing AND dealing with THESE very bad slow downs and also this very long loading time of period a buffering.
 now I understand it's not the Internet that effecting it's domain for Mugen Fighters Guild but what is the cost and  what kind of upgrade can we need to make for the Forum to be fast active ? Do you think it's time to move ahead and come up with a better plan and security and better web services for Mugen Fighters Guild what does it take?

Let discuss and move forward to this NOW.
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Last Edit: July 28, 2024, 05:56:51 pm by OldGamer
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#2  July 28, 2024, 07:56:50 pm
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There is not much that can be done, unfortunately. I think people have been trying to get to Valodim to fix stuff, to no avail. :(
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#3  July 28, 2024, 08:09:04 pm
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Yeah, Like It Breaks and it's okay and sometimes when i check something new it breaks, out of nowhere not just the internet is just that idk what the H is going on with this site, really. Which Thank You For Making this Topic. Because I was wondering does anyone have this type of issue on this site they just wanted to talk about it. Heck this site is good i'm just scared something bad is going to happen really.
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#4  July 28, 2024, 09:05:24 pm
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Yeah, Like It Breaks and it's okay and sometimes when i check something new it breaks, out of nowhere not just the internet is just that idk what the H is going on with this site, really. Which Thank You For Making this Topic. Because I was wondering does anyone have this type of issue on this site they just wanted to talk about it. Heck this site is good i'm just scared something bad is going to happen really.
There is not much that can be done, unfortunately. I think people have been trying to get to Valodim to fix stuff, to no avail. :(
maybe I didn't mean myself very clear on what I'm trying to ask here and please give this old man a break here my grammar is very bad. so let me break it down gently and so in line terms lame terms I know that this website is very old and is using some kind of website or services but just let you guys know that I have starlink https://www.starlink.com/us HIGH SPEED Ethernet I hope guys ever heard of it.

so what I'm asking is is there any way we can support the website with better Services when it comes to domain or a type of website domain that it can keep it running without the cost of these Gateway 504 crashes at random or improve the website even more or what will cost to run this type of Domain services for a forum or web services when it comes to domain now I don't mind contributing to this website cuz this place is our home we all started with this website here and Mugen fighter Guild is our home

I'm willing to support this website because I love this website but these gateways crashes needs to stop completely what does it take to get it back and running with a proper upgrade or Services upgrade to make the server or the Forum running properly with active ownership and admin and Global moderators to keep everything under control instead of having missing in action owners who running this site

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Last Edit: July 28, 2024, 09:16:22 pm by OldGamer
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#5  July 28, 2024, 09:22:01 pm
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#6  August 18, 2024, 08:14:07 am
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It's really, really annoying though so hopefully someone can do something about it.

The alternative forum sites are not as good when it comes to structure and presentation, MFG also being one of the oldest forums still in existence so finding a topic with help on coding isn't really possible in other boards either.
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#7  August 18, 2024, 05:34:58 pm
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It's really, really annoying though so hopefully someone can do something about it.

The alternative forum sites are not as good when it comes to structure and presentation, MFG also being one of the oldest forums still in existence so finding a topic with help on coding isn't really possible in other boards either.

That's true.
site is going up and down constantly... is this something we should worry about?
#8  August 24, 2024, 04:54:43 am
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so as im usually browsing MFG and enjoying my time, i notice that it sometimes takes an awful time to load some pages.... but then

BOOM! i get a 504 gateway timeout and the odd "nginx" but the site goes quickly up and down constantly, think about this as Tony hawk's Downhill Jam

.... Minus the Tony Hawk and the Jam part, yeah.. just Downhill

all of this makes me wonder one thing, is there someone even maintaining the site at all? if so, then they should atleast do something about the servers or just change the web domain?

please share your thoughts if you feel like doing it? and will there be something done about all of this? if so, lets just hope...


hopefully im not the only one experiencing this


edit number "1": Also i should say that if you're writing a long message for some reason, then you need to worry about getting the "504 gateway timeout" because EVERYTHING that you wrote will not be there

imagine writing a reply that is as long as a essay and that happens.... its like "Oh dear, i forgot to turn off the stove" but instead of forgetting about the stove it's something like this:

"O no, i was writing a reply and i got the 504 error, now i need to write all of that again"


Last Edit: August 24, 2024, 05:08:28 am by mapleleafgrappl1ng
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#9  August 24, 2024, 05:17:24 am
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nope, i have the same problem, is because of the maintenance or something.
Last Edit: August 28, 2024, 03:31:55 am by Funk
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#10  August 24, 2024, 08:11:12 am
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Both of you are not the only ones who have this problem. I also tend to get it for no reason, sometimes when I want to share an update on my current W.I.P. character and it's getting so annoying.


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#11  August 24, 2024, 10:40:01 pm
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I'm going to have to chime in on this and agree. Discord can not replace this forum or at the very least, it's formatting. The Code Library alone is enough to shoot any notion of Discord filling that role. Not to mention focused, individual threads that invite feedback and support with out the discourse that is Discord. You Admins: @Iced: , @JustNoPoint: , @Jmorphman: , @SpeedPreacher: , need to address this situation.

I don't know if it's Nunor or Valodim or who(else) is responsible for the assumed financial upkeep of this site. Though if they're not going to be around/not keep things running smoothly, they should consider handing it off to someone who will. Or, if none of you can get ahold of them and they have moved on from all this(which is fine, life goes on), we should be in talks of making a new forum and transferring all data from this site to the new one. We can discuss finances and upkeep, which I am willing to pitch in with. I'm not just telling you to do something without offering aid myself.

It seems pretty clear that this site unfortunately has been abandoned by it's owner(s), so I believe migrating will most likely be the best course of action. This is very important and should be discussed.
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#12  August 24, 2024, 10:58:43 pm
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#13  August 25, 2024, 06:10:33 pm
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It seems pretty clear that this site unfortunately has been abandoned by it's owner(s), so I believe migrating will most likely be the best course of action. This is very important and should be discussed.
Well, that's basically the problem: the owner has the keys for the forum and he only can manage the core of the forum with all the info there, so maybe the other admins could create a new forum, but all the past content will be lost and we all start from scratch. Valodim and Nunor (not sure about him also being owner TBH) have these keys and both are MIA since years ago (Val at least appeared in 2022 for a couple of months), and without getting to them to manage the forum and move it to another server, this will continue until eventually the forum collapse and all of this disappears.

Well, at least this only affects to the forum since the hosted sites on Guild Network work well and without problems (not just site themselves, also the FTP), if this problem would also affect the sites then this would be a REAL problem. I'm also worried as all of you about the future of the forum, but I've to be realistic about this issue... and I managed forums before (very small ones, but forums anyway) and I know the hard work to mantain one, we'll just have to wait sadly, there's no other way until Valodim and Nunor appear once again
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#14  August 25, 2024, 06:36:03 pm
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I know all of that. That's why I said either they try and get in contact with the owners and have them hand over the "keys" to this place, or we just make a new forum and transfer everything over. That's honestly the only options. Once that's establish, we can figure out who will fulfill what roles from here on out. Waiting is not an option. This site has been like this for several years and is only getting worse with no attendance. The stuff that you mentioned is next to be affected by this. The longer you all wait, the worst it's gonna get. I barely even want to type this out, as there's like a 60% chance it will just hit me with the 504 bullshit.

I can't even give feedback that I want to give, because so many of my posts have been eaten, and I just give up at that point. Most engagement is hindered because of this. Despite common misconception, Discord has not made taken away the traffic to this forum. The poor maintenance has. It needs to be addressed while it still has legs underneath it, to at the very least make it easier to migrate to a new forum.
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#15  August 28, 2024, 02:11:00 am
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I don't know if it's Nunor or Valodim or who(else) is responsible for the assumed financial upkeep of this site. Though if they're not going to be around/not keep things running smoothly, they should consider handing it off to someone who will. Or, if none of you can get ahold of them and they have moved on from all this(which is fine, life goes on), we should be in talks of making a new forum and transferring all data from this site to the new one. We can discuss finances and upkeep, which I am willing to pitch in with. I'm not just telling you to do something without offering aid myself.

It seems pretty clear that this site unfortunately has been abandoned by it's owner(s), so I believe migrating will most likely be the best course of action. This is very important and should be discussed.
We are very disappointed in the current state of the forum but there is literally nothing any of us in the mod staff can do about the forum currently; it's all under Valodim's control. It's all deeply and incredibly frustrating, and the thought of losing all the valuable decades of history contained in this forum is a pretty awful possibility. The constant 504 timeouts, the repeated stretches of the forum being totally down, all of this shit is awful and deleterious to the community as a whole.

At this point all options are being explored, and have been for quite some time. We hope to find some measure of resolution, even if the exact form it might take is nebulous right now.
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#16  August 28, 2024, 04:17:28 am
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Let's not fall into despair. Someone has to know how to contact the upper echelon of MFG. Let's seek this individual out, and ask for aide.
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#17  August 29, 2024, 04:52:44 am
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If the site can't be maintained then I really, really, hope it doesn't move into a new discord server. That is the worst way to release information and I'm willing to bet so much stuff that people want are locked away or lost. That's what I saw with the SM64 PC port and other related things people have had trouble looking for.
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#18  August 29, 2024, 04:09:08 pm
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If the site can't be maintained then I really, really, hope it doesn't move into a new discord server. That is the worst way to release information and I'm willing to bet so much stuff that people want are locked away or lost. That's what I saw with the SM64 PC port and other related things people have had trouble looking for.

unfortunately, it might have to come to a whole new forum, with the web master not responding to emails and letting things get worst, creating a new clone forum besides it might be the only way to go to serve as a posting tool.  we are exploring options but we are very limited due to valodim not being present.

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#19  August 29, 2024, 09:58:09 pm
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Hi,
For anyone worried that this forum might be forever lost, you can start archiving pages that you feel are essential by using the wayback machine:
https://help.archive.org/help/save-pages-in-the-wayback-machine/
I gotta be honest tho, this method is tedius and will only archive a single page.

If you can get your hands on a backup of the site's database and the PHP web app files then you can easily rehost this site somewhere else. It shouldn't be all that expensive really. Do any of you guys have backups of this site sitting somewhere?
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