reiterating my previous rant, even more unorganized (and as colorful as possible)============================================================.....stereotypes sell. Their stature will continue because developers simply do not care about desiging and dignifying a certain race/sex/nationality justifiably in a game that cums supsended reality. That shit doesn't matter when you're talking about keeping a multi-million dollar franchise alive. Sometimes I feel the "stereotypes" that we see are just a normal staple of make-believe life that the developers create for us in the fighting games...a suspended normality that they think (and it's adoring fans) is normal in a make-believe reality.Debating in internet forums (or wherever else) over which stereotyped fighter is stronger/sexier/cooler/etc, and (specifically speaking for the MUGEN community) making 4th/5th/6th generation cousins of these fighters that further degrades them only keeps it alive. Don't get me wrong - I love playing as Michael Max and Heavy !D. I have no problem playing as Ibuki or Sailor Moon Venus. If they're play mechanics work well in making the game fun, then I'll use them.But, at some point, the developers need to stop getting typecast (as walt said earlier) in the degrading, physical appeal in their programming genius. Black fighters aren't the only ones suffering.....um, yeah, I made my point somewhere in there.
SFs characters were originally stereotyped. Most of the characters were originally from movies and manga. Wiki it, or die tryin... What still has pissed me off is that T-Hawk is from Mexico?? There arent native americans in Mexico!! I've been mexican for the better part of my life, and still am BTW, and i have never seen giant mexicans like that. The only fighting styles that Mexico comes close to is Lucha Libre, and Bar Room boxing. And the only "Indians" that are even left in mexico, are those ponchos wearing Black-complected people, who dont even speak spanish, and are treated like second class citizens and who are actually descendent from aztecs and mayans. While we mexicans are descendant from spaniards, who are also descendant from Arabs.But in retropect, if Cpcm wanted a real Mexican in SF2, they should of used that Luchador from their slam masters game. At least it wouldnt have looked Xenophobic, and he prolly would have been an even better character than Thunderfoot Hawk.Sado/Chad from Bleach looks pretty close to Mexican though.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Street_Fighter_characters
mugenxero said, January 13, 2008, 08:35:34 amand everyone acts as if Potemkin is the only darker skinned character in GG, you can't say cause Venom is gay for Zato that he's light skinned.But I sure want me some of Jam's.... well, Jam.
There are plenty of "black" people in GG. You just gotta press the right buttons to enable the right palette swap.
Of course! they all are black, then. I like a cinnimon-skinned Millia... and a alabaster Baiken, if you ask me.
(TAO)Overlord said, January 14, 2008, 07:05:21 pmOf course! they all are black, then. I like a cinnimon-skinned Millia... and a alabaster Baiken, if you ask me.The "black" take on Millia wasn't that bad. If she had long black or dark brown hair, she would've been the first legitimate looking black female 2D fighter...given the anime take.
#Shaun said, January 14, 2008, 05:04:11 pmreiterating my previous rant, even more unorganized (and as colorful as possible)============================================================.....stereotypes sell. Their stature will continue because developers simply do not care about desiging and dignifying a certain race/sex/nationality justifiably in a game that cums supsended reality. That shit doesn't matter when you're talking about keeping a multi-million dollar franchise alive. Sometimes I feel the "stereotypes" that we see are just a normal staple of make-believe life that the developers create for us in the fighting games...a suspended normality that they think (and it's adoring fans) is normal in a make-believe reality.Debating in internet forums (or wherever else) over which stereotyped fighter is stronger/sexier/cooler/etc, and (specifically speaking for the MUGEN community) making 4th/5th/6th generation cousins of these fighters that further degrades them only keeps it alive. Don't get me wrong - I love playing as Michael Max and Heavy !D. I have no problem playing as Ibuki or Sailor Moon Venus. If they're play mechanics work well in making the game fun, then I'll use them.But, at some point, the developers need to stop getting typecast (as walt said earlier) in the degrading, physical appeal in their programming genius. Black fighters aren't the only ones suffering.....um, yeah, I made my point somewhere in there.maybe , just maybe, they just want to make a game and don't care about politics.
Which, I personally think they had more races in anime, it won't be an issue. Especially if there were more Women of the Race.Racial issues seem to start with men more than women. So we need to make it so that the thread is (Which girl do you like the most) because everything between the legs of women can start peace or war.R[E]ika said, January 14, 2008, 07:14:04 pmmaybe , just maybe, they just want to make a game and don't care about politics.I, personally, believe it so, but for the sake of the topic, I'll be contradicting.And for the record, I think we should stop calling blacks African Americans in this thread. I can't believe these 2 words can start controversy, but somehow, it does.
The only that got my Goat years ago was that all Black characters in Snk and Capcom games had Mohawks,Afro and Black pompadors (Kushnood Butt.).Heavy DSethBirdie (Who although wsa white in sf1.)BowmanDee jay just had a Cooning SmileJonesKeep in mind that each of these fighters was Some of the toughest opponents so i can't say that they were useless.As far as Lucky Glauber goes his last name implies he has basketball talent. He obviously seems like Homage to Kareem Abdul Jabbar in game of Death. His Moves is ill and he's one of my personal faves.
R[E]ika said, January 14, 2008, 07:14:04 pm#Shaun said, January 14, 2008, 05:04:11 pmreiterating my previous rant, even more unorganized (and as colorful as possible)============================================================.....stereotypes sell. Their stature will continue because developers simply do not care about desiging and dignifying a certain race/sex/nationality justifiably in a game that cums supsended reality. That shit doesn't matter when you're talking about keeping a multi-million dollar franchise alive. Sometimes I feel the "stereotypes" that we see are just a normal staple of make-believe life that the developers create for us in the fighting games...a suspended normality that they think (and it's adoring fans) is normal in a make-believe reality.Debating in internet forums (or wherever else) over which stereotyped fighter is stronger/sexier/cooler/etc, and (specifically speaking for the MUGEN community) making 4th/5th/6th generation cousins of these fighters that further degrades them only keeps it alive. Don't get me wrong - I love playing as Michael Max and Heavy !D. I have no problem playing as Ibuki or Sailor Moon Venus. If they're play mechanics work well in making the game fun, then I'll use them.But, at some point, the developers need to stop getting typecast (as walt said earlier) in the degrading, physical appeal in their programming genius. Black fighters aren't the only ones suffering.....um, yeah, I made my point somewhere in there.maybe , just maybe, they just want to make a game and don't care about politics.At some point they're gonna have to care.
Ignorance and/or arrogance can only be tolerated for so long though...that is, if the fans of fighting games (or gaming as a whole) care enough to want a change.
#Shaun said, January 14, 2008, 07:29:01 pmAt some point they're gonna have to care.What for ? Because you say so ?
#Shaun said, January 14, 2008, 07:32:46 pmIgnorance and/or arrogance can only be tolerated for so long though...that is, if the fans of fighting games (or gaming as a whole) care enough to want a change.why change what was never wrong?
