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Started by KatsupSpecial, September 17, 2021, 10:07:15 PM
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Who makes the hardest A.I./characters? (non-cheap)

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Challenge (not) Accepted 3!
#1  September 17, 2021, 10:07:15 PM
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I mention Saki Omokane specifically because (unless Darkflare finds an exploit) HOLY SHIT IS SHE BROKEN. Can someone please vouch for me and tell me I'm not crazy?
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Last Edit: December 12, 2021, 01:37:05 AM by KatsupSpecial
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#2  September 18, 2021, 08:33:28 AM
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lol why not shinsmoke on the list?
also ikaruga, tobikage, yuki etc
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#3  September 18, 2021, 11:43:37 AM
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Umm.. I don't think Saki Omokane (w/ Holn's AI) is broken.

Have you ever tested Nateruo's AI patches for Muteki's Guilty Gear characters? Like Order Sol, Zato, Justice, etc.

Oh and about KONG's MvC characters, they're way more broken comparing to other versions we've used.
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#4  September 18, 2021, 02:13:21 PM
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Umm.. I don't think Saki Omokane (w/ Holn's AI) is broken.

Have you ever tested Nateruo's AI patches for Muteki's Guilty Gear characters? Like Order Sol, Zato, Justice, etc.

Oh and about KONG's MvC characters, they're way more broken comparing to other versions we've used.

Again, I find myself having subjective opinions. I swear (again), she was nearly untouchable for me. Also, do "Nateruo's AI patches" make muteki's chars harder or easier?
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#5  September 18, 2021, 03:53:24 PM
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Ah Kong, some of his Pocket/Gem fighter characters actually can't take damage even if you hit them. (Not sure if it's a thing with his other stuff.)
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#6  September 22, 2021, 01:21:00 AM
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^KONG A.I. vs. Kaz A.I. Who has the most bullshit A.I.? Find out in this surprising video!

^^Ya'll mind if I put this here or should I post this in the video thread?
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#7  October 07, 2021, 10:44:13 AM
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#8  October 08, 2021, 12:40:30 AM
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Apparently you can taste your own spinal fluid.... I hope Rudy Tomjanovich tasted applesauce down there...
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#9  October 11, 2021, 09:56:41 PM
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I mean most AIs in mugen and even in commercial fighting games tend to get exploited by the same strategies

  • unblockable attacks
  • attacks with weird properties (E.G air lows, crouching highs)
  • tick throws
  • whiff punishing unsafe moves as in the case for saki
  • counter spam
  • chainable command grabs from blocked normals
  • chipping out an AI endlessly if they don't stop blocking
  • long normals
  • projectile spam
  • 0th frame attacks (in mugen anyways, Ikemen GO allows these to be blocked)

I'm sure there is more entry points for exploiting the AI but the main rule of thumb is, treat the AI like an AI, not like a human. They tend to be programmed against that. Also most people who do these AI beatdowns don't give you the first take on challenging the AI since some people think that's the case.

Also I don't think there needed to be a second thread of this considering you can reset the poll at the top with new data
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#10  December 12, 2021, 01:47:25 AM
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New poll! I voted for Brergrsart because his chars are undoubtedly frustrating to fight. A notable example for me right now is How Are You? That character gives you NO time to breathe.
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#11  December 12, 2021, 05:48:37 AM
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I believe it was mentioned that Brergrsart made his characters for SpriteClub and not for normal playing. Yeah, they're intentionally broken.
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#12  December 12, 2021, 07:24:05 AM
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Oh ok... should I remove him from the poll or...?
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