Naga (Monster Rancher/ Farm)

[Chidori Nagashi]

Hi there !
This is going to be my first mugen char.
Im quite a noob in char creation, so i have much to learn ^^
It is Naga from Monster Rancher / Farm

I started to like him and now i am trying to release him in MUGEN


umm well I did the sprite(s) from scratch so pls help me to get it look better!  
UPDATE: December 02, 2009, 04:42:06 PM
final stance animation:

Spoiler (click to show)

alpha Walk animation:

Spoiler (click to show)

[Randomish]

the shading under his left arm looks messed up in  some frames

[Mishulika]

first of all
Why Not GOLEM???
lol
well my critics are...
I like his face, his shoulders are well proportionate...his height is appropriate...

Main problem is his torso
and  the way he's tail is being squished at the floor...
I would suggest to make his tail from the waist down - rounded - as much as you can.
Under his chest - yellow part is way too far to the right .

Usually i would say - "Do you really know what youre doing?'
But since this thing is from one of my favorite shows - i wish you luck.

[Chidori Nagashi]

well my critics are...
I like his face, his shoulders are well proportionate...his height is appropriate...

well thx

Main problem is his torso
and  the way he's tail is being squished at the floor...
I would suggest to make his tail from the waist down - rounded - as much as you can.
Under his chest - yellow part is way too far to the right .

now round enough?

[Randomish]

the new one looks like its floating

[Mgbenz]

TC, you could start with an incredibly simple one like Monol. It is just a rectangular block of stone that can make faces and shapes in it's body. Even Suezo could be a good start.

[Chidori Nagashi]

the new one looks like its floating

lol what about now?

TC, you could start with an incredibly simple one like Monol. It is just a rectangular block of stone that can make faces and shapes in it's body. Even Suezo could be a good start.

well that does not really make me happy xD

[Sapphire Flame]

I'm not a spriter by any means, but I can see plenty of problems with that stance.

- Part of the belly bulges outward at one point.
- The animation is very stiff.
- The torso going up and down doesn't look very convincing. It looks like Naga is stretching is body rather than moving up and down. This is Naga, not Jell!
- The left arm doesn't move very much. It looks rather.. weird.
- It's been a while since I played the games, but I'm not sure if naga's body arches up like that at a straight 90 degree angle.

As for your second sprite, it's not much of an improvement. I don't think the body is supposed to raise up like that. I think that if you shortened the tail it might look better.

Overall, it needs quite a bit of work. Don't give up, though.

[Chidori Nagashi]

I'm not a spriter by any means, but I can see plenty of problems with that stance.

- Part of the belly bulges outward at one point.
- The animation is very stiff.
- The torso going up and down doesn't look very convincing. It looks like Naga is stretching is body rather than moving up and down. This is Naga, not Jell!
- The left arm doesn't move very much. It looks rather.. weird.
- It's been a while since I played the games, but I'm not sure if naga's body arches up like that at a straight 90 degree angle.

I gave this stance up

As for your second sprite, it's not much of an improvement. I don't think the body is supposed to raise up like that. I think that if you shortened the tail it might look better.

Overall, it needs quite a bit of work. Don't give up, though.

I think the shading looks better ^^ And I wont give up. With your help I got today from an emberassing animation to a (in my opinion) far better sprite. thx to all 

[ultimatedude]

Ugh, you gotta clean those outline pixels

[Chidori Nagashi]

Ugh, you gotta clean those outline pixels

I think outlines or no outlines is a question of what you like, or dont like...
I think the 3rd version looks best (thx).

[Mishulika]

i didnt and dont have much time - so heres a small example of what his torso should normally look like - also pay attention to his arm - it has to have  2 main bones - while your previous drawings has 3 of them.

Spoiler (click to show)

[Chidori Nagashi]

i didnt and dont have much time - so heres a small example of what his torso should normally look like - also pay attention to his arm - it has to have  2 main bones - while your previous drawings has 3 of them.

Thx this will help me a lot !
Going to work now 

[Randomish]

I like the newer version

[Chidori Nagashi]

I like the newer version

thx
I dont know how to make him "crouch"... I think it might look stupid

[Randomish]

I like the newer version

thx
I dont know how to make him "crouch"... I think it might look stupid

have him lower his upper body to duck

[Sapphire Flame]

The new animation is much, much better. It's still not perfect, but I can definitely see some improvement.

Right now, I'm noticing that the left arm doesn't look like it has the same large "fin" as the right arm. It looks like a bunch of small fins down the arm. Also, it looks kind of awkward for it to be just hanging there, limp. I'd like to see the next animation have the left arm be outstretched similar to the right.

[Hien]

Your Light source on yur shading is WAY Off

[Chidori Nagashi]

The new animation is much, much better. It's still not perfect, but I can definitely see some improvement.

This is what I want to hear 

Right now, I'm noticing that the left arm doesn't look like it has the same large "fin" as the right arm. It looks like a bunch of small fins down the arm. Also, it looks kind of awkward for it to be just hanging there, limp. I'd like to see the next animation have the left arm be outstretched similar to the right.

ok

Your Light source on yur shading is WAY Off

well... shading is something i have to practise 

[ultimatedude]

Ugh, you gotta clean those outline pixels

I think outlines or no outlines is a question of what you like, or dont like...
I think the 3rd version looks best (thx).

This is what i meant
http://theindiestone.com/community/tutorials-f11/avoiding-pixel-pitfalls-t14.html (the first few steps)