Samurai Shodown/Spirits discussion. A samurai fears nothing, neither death!

Started by Toshio Tenma, July 05, 2011, 03:24:29 PM

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Toshio Tenma

Let's talk about Samurai Shodow series^^ I've been playing the games ever since the 1st game for Super Nes which unfortunatelly suffered the censorship butchering and both Neo Geo and Arcade versions as well. I don't got in Samurai Showdown 3, but I managed to beat the arcade version of Samurai Shodow 2 arcade and PC versions with several characters like Haohmaru, Jubei, Gen-an, Kyoshiro and others.
-Toshio Tenma

psychoripper

the arcade versions were awesome. I loved 1 and 2, 3 wasnt too bad...but i dont care much for the others after.

and please dont get me started on how awful sen is

Werewood

My main in part one is Tam Tam and in part two Jubei, in the rest, the blode gal  :gorgeous:
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Duos.act

2 and 4 are the best.  5 is not all it's cracked up to be.  3 is horribad.

c001357

5sp is the only game worth playing since it has the most players online
4, while being a vast improvement over 3 is still broken (ukyofest)
2 is just not very interesting

Lasombra Demon

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Nate Nukem

My first experience was SS1 in the arcade, but I still loved playing SS1 on SNES for a long time... even though it was obvious (even as a young kid at the time) that they castrated it.  Still found it incredibly fun.


Quote from: MC-Truth on July 05, 2011, 05:17:57 PM
2 and 4 are the best.  5 is not all it's cracked up to be.  3 is horribad.

This... especially 4.  5sp is very good too.  6 had a great roster, but there's far too many things wrong with that game.  Never played the 3D variety, but they didn't look worth the time anyway.

Basara Bogard

Agree with all of you. 4 is the best for far, only followed by 2. 1 is a classic and 3 is great for its artwork (but it's hard as hell), 5 doesn't like me too much and 5sp it's a improvement but not enough to get the best. In 6 I only save the new characters (especially Iroha :sweetheart:) and that's all, since 5 the gameplay were fucked up :-\

And I played some of 3D games, mainly the 2 SS64 games for Hyper Neogeo 64 didn't played PSX's Warriors Rage and SS-Sen yet

GalFord

Samurai Shodown was a fresh change from playing Street Fighter 2, although I tended to try and play it like Sf2 which didn't help much.  SS2 for me was almost the pinnacle of the series.  New characters, new moves, strategies, and awesome music.  SS3 for me was a welcome evolution, with reimagined characters, good music... but the fighting just didn't feel 'fun'.  SS4... well, although it refined on the combat, it lost a little charm with the loss of personalised music tracks (Barring certain characters), but to me.. it was the best of the bunch.  Bust/Rasetsu Galford was easily my main here. :)

SS5 was ok, but nothing great, SS5S was ok too.. and SS6 was, well a extended mashup of everything.  Couldn't really get into it, although I really wanted to.

GalFord

Quote from: Basara Swan on July 05, 2011, 08:09:41 PM
Agree with all of you. 4 is the best for far, only followed by 2. 1 is a classic and 3 is great for its artwork (but it's hard as hell), 5 doesn't like me too much and 5sp it's a improvement but not enough to get the best. In 6 I only save the new characters (especially Iroha :sweetheart:) and that's all, since 5 the gameplay were fucked up :-\

And I played some of 3D games, mainly the 2 SS64 games for Hyper Neogeo 64 didn't played PSX's Warriors Rage and SS-Sen yet

SamSho 64 2 was the only one worth playing, even though it was hard.  Warriors Rage was a shitty game that quite frankly could have had any characters in it, the only reason that it was a Sam Sho game was the inclusion of Haohmaru and Nakoruru in the cutscenes. :P

Sen was just shit. :P

Lasombra Demon

Quote from: Basara Swan on July 05, 2011, 08:09:41 PM
3 is great for its artwork (but it's hard as hell)
WTF upper mode + super spam = win. Not that hard. :P

My fav is 4. Warriors' Rage was kinda meh.
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Basara Bogard

Well, the CPU is annoying as hell, especially Ukyo and Galford >:(

Quote from: GalFord on July 05, 2011, 08:16:13 PM
Warriors Rage was a shitty game that quite frankly could have had any characters in it, the only reason that it was a Sam Sho game was the inclusion of Haohmaru and Nakoruru in the cutscenes. :P
That was intented to be like a MOTW for SS saga, but it didn't succeded on it. I know the game it's just bad, but still wanted to play it because of the story... and wanted to play with Kuki bros, Shinzo and old-tanned Haohmaru :P

GalFord

Quote from: Basara Swan
That was intented to be like a MOTW for SS saga, but it didn't succeded on it. I know the game it's just bad, but still wanted to play it because of the story... and wanted to play with Kuki bros, Shinzo and old-tanned Haohmaru :P
I know... I bought it because I love the series... Hell, I bought Sam Sho Sen for £50!  I kept telling myself that it was to support release of SNK games in the UK, but it still makes me feel used and abused. >_<

Quote from: Lasombra Demon on July 05, 2011, 08:17:43 PM
My fav is 4. Warriors' Rage was kinda meh.

This.  A million times this. ;)

Shunt666

SS IV is without a doubt the best in the series, but a bit *too* complex, if you ask me. I easily get lost with all the gameplay features and forget to utilize like half of 'em in competitive play.

Samsho V SP I find enjoyable, despite the watered down system. Plus, it has my nigga Gaoh.

If you're looking for a good old school experience, II is your friend. Dat pillar Wan-Fu.

The rest I either don't give a shit about or haven't played yet. Would love to try out VI.


GalFord

The complexity of SS4 is why I loved it.  When I used to play in the arcades, I ditched all thoughts of 'Jump In Attack, Attack, Cancel to Special/Super', and turned to 'Wait, Bait, Annoy, Bait more, Block major attack, Screw over opponent'. :)  Or, personal favourite was dropping your weapon as Bust Galford and either using his unarmed attacks, or baiting them to throw a meaty attack to use the sword-catch reversal. :)

DMK

Quote from: GalFord on July 05, 2011, 08:16:13 PM
Sen was just shit. :P

Couldn't agree more. What the hell were they thinking actually releasing it?

GalFord

Quote from: DMK on July 07, 2011, 03:22:05 AM
Couldn't agree more. What the hell were they thinking actually releasing it?

I think they thought after the release of KOF MIRA in the arcades in Japan, the Sam Sho series needed an update.  It could have been a really good idea, but sadly marred by the same problems that the Hyper NeoGeo 64 versions had.  It was trying to be a 3D game with 2D characters.  Although a lot of people wouldn't like to hear it, it could have worked if the game had tried to use a system similar to SF4.  3D models in a 2D fighter.


Shaggy

Love samurai shodown! One of my favorite series of all time!  The original still holds a place in my heart, but 4 is easily the best in the series. Really want to try Sen just to see how bad they screwed it up. 

GalFord

Quote from: Satou Sei~ on July 07, 2011, 04:06:13 PM
have you two played the game ?

As I stated earlier, I have the game, it was more than lackluster, and the gameplay just wasn't fun.  Maybe I should have just said 'It should have remained a 2D series'.  Of course, this is only my opinion.