Wtf Youtube!?

Started by Xenomic, August 13, 2012, 11:38:54 PM

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Xenomic




So yeah, if you can't guess it, this WAS my account...and I got this without any reasons nor warnings as to why I got suspended in my email. I was just watching Raocow's latest video, finished that, and then this happens. Whenever I tried to Sign In, I got a Verify account thing, which I had someone help me with (thank them for their help...), and already sent a contact thing through the next part after that. I don't know how else to contact them as I've never done so, and I can't even make a new account now...


I'm honestly miffed about this whole thing and not sure what the hell to do. I've been on there for 3-4 years and have uploaded roughly 3000 videos, and not once have I ever got any warnings or whatnot about anything I've done. I just...what the hell man...I don't even know anymore... ;_;

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ExShadow

Probably not enough disclaimers

Xenomic

I've never used any disclaimers at all, and never have since I started this whole thing. I never claimed anything to be mine though either so...I don't know. It just seems odd that it just...HAPPENS magically out of thin air at that...

Ricepigeon

QuoteYoutube's policy against spam, gaming

WHAT?

Xenomic

That part there is what makes me wonder wtf is up. I never spammed anything, there's nothing misleading about anything I've ever uploaded, and I don't know wtf that gaming bit is about.

Apparently I read someone else had a very similar problem last week too.


http://scibbe.com/?p=3381


So yeah, methinks this is actually false flagging now since I know my account wasn't hijacked since well...I was still in it and never was out of it forever now so...I think either A) Someone was just being a jerkass and decided to target me for WHATEVER reason or B) Someone didn't like my current uploads I was doing (10 vids a day, all MUGEN vids). I don't know...but it better get resolved soon I hope.

Ricepigeon

The funny part is I can't find anything in Youtube's TOS about anti-gaming, and the only thing that even comes close is their section on copyright. If it was a copyright issue, it would have said so.

I wouldn't immediately dismiss this as a false flagging though. A shitton of competitive Pokemon players and LPers had their channels suspended recently from The Pokemon Company, I'm wondering if its all connected?

Xenomic

And like it says in that link I linked to, the guy had pretty much the same thing happen to him, with the exact same thing I have (and I know a friend who had her account suspended for no good reason too). There really should be a system for dealing with false flaggers, there really should be. That, or NOT use bots to deal with this as that only causes more problems than it needs to be >_>

Duos.act

"Gaming" is also a word that can refer to illegal gambling, I think that's what they mean in this context.

Your account was probably suspended due to people flagging your MB/shock videos for whatever reason.  If you get flagged enough you'll get a suspension.

Xenomic

If it's referring to illegal gambling, then that's so retarded in this case lol.


That's what I'm starting to really think since I didn't have any issues until I started uploading these. And that's just ridiculous to flag someone over something like that, and even moreso not to even give a warning about it. If it was so bad, why not send me a warning YT so I can like...take down the videos or something? Instead of just outright YOU'RE SUSPENDED BECAUSE WE RUN ON BOTS! .=.''

Ricepigeon

You DO realize Youtube is not the issue here, right? They're trying to protect themselves, otherwise they can be held liable. Remember the thing with Viacom?

Anyway, I'm still convinced its a copyright issue. You did try to contact them, did you? Did you get any notices in your e-mail? (I remember when I did get a strike for using footage from Inuyasha back in 2007, they sent me a removal notification email).

Quote from: MC2 on August 14, 2012, 12:48:47 AM
"Gaming" is also a word that can refer to illegal gambling, I think that's what they mean in this context.

Your account was probably suspended due to people flagging your MB/shock videos for whatever reason.  If you get flagged enough you'll get a suspension.

That's what I thought too at first, but the only real things Xen has been uploading recently were his MB & shock anims, and his Touhou RPG.

Xenomic

I sent them a thingie through the Gmail Contact thing (whenever I try to sign into my YT account) and through the Forums thing, so gotta wait and see on that. The only thing I got in my email was the YOUR ACCOUNT WAS SUSPENDED thing. That's it...no reasons, nothing. Just flatout it was suspended. Which is what irks me the most about the whole ordeal aside from losing my account.


But yeah, that's the only thing I've uploaded recently is the Midnight Bliss & Shock vids (5 of each each day, so 10 a day) and before that it was just Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (which is old as hell anyways so I wouldn't see any reason THAT would cause anything). The Touhou Fantasy videos were around the start of FFTA and before that, and I wouldn't THINK that would cause it either since well...yeah....

Ricepigeon

Quote from: Xenomic on August 14, 2012, 12:54:18 AM
The Touhou Fantasy videos were around the start of FFTA and before that, and I wouldn't THINK that would cause it either since well...yeah....

Considering <REDACTED> sent me an email requesting I remove and stop making Touhou stuff for MUGEN from my site back in May, I wouldn't be surprised if it was them. But you didn't hear that from me.

Xenomic

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Never heard of em.

Speaking of having to verify my account, this is what I had when I tried to sign in after it started.

"We've detected unusual activity on your account. To immediately restore access to your account, choose how to verify your account."


Which strikes me as odd...considering that I was signed in still so I don't know how THAT was unusual at all...

Xenomic

Soooo yeah. Just got an email from YT and...I don't understand WHAT it's talking about


"Hi there,

Thank you for your email.

This account was found in Violation of TOU #4 Section H:
http://www.youtube.com/t/terms

"You agree not to use or launch any automated system, including without limitation, "robots," "spiders," or "offline readers," that accesses the Service in a manner that sends more request messages to the YouTube servers in a given period of time than a human can reasonably produce in the same period by using a conventional on-line web browser.
Notwithstanding the foregoing, YouTube grants the operators of public search engines permission to use spiders to copy materials from the site for the sole purpose of and solely to the extent necessary for creating publicly available searchable indices of the materials, but not caches or archives of such materials. YouTube reserves the right to revoke these exceptions either generally or in specific cases. You agree not to collect or harvest any personally identifiable information, including account names, from the Service, nor to use the communication systems provided by the Service (e.g., comments, email) for any commercial solicitation purposes. You agree not to solicit, for commercial purposes, any users of the Service with respect to their Content."

Regards,

The YouTube Team"



So....what is it saying, and how do I appeal THIS? @_@;;

DNZRX768

From the email, I can guess that the email saying that you are using an automated program to boost the number of views on your videos. They must have found out because such programs have sent to Youtube far more requests for data than Human hands can ever do at their fastest.

For the appealing, just say that you have not used any automated programs at all.

EDIT: On further thinking, consider scanning your computer for viruses right now. I have a suspicion that there might be something on your computer that does not belong there.
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Xenomic

I see....I used the support thing on the YT forums and sent them another message via that way (I don't know if that's right or the reply to email that I did so...). Hopefully it'll be resolved soon? ;_;

DNZRX768

I hope so.

I did some more research and it turn out that any kind of automated program that does some Youtube-related function, like viewing and adding subscribers, are not allowed from Section 4-H.
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Xenomic

That's...odd? I know I've never done that at all, and I HAVE noticed I've been getting a few more subscribers recently too...

DNZRX768

Then just tell Youtube you have not done anything of that sort.
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