Non-Chibi Luffy

Started by Chazzanova, February 24, 2013, 11:45:17 AM

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Chazzanova

Do not know if I should do this, but I was trying to think about how concepts should be a custom non-Luffy chibi style. Honestly I'm pretty bad with shading, but if someone could teach me about this, I think I would commit to completing a spritesheet.

These are my concepts, the details would be added during the shading-step. Same for errors, would be corrected then.

Stand


Low Punch


Medium Punch

What do you think about this? Do you think I should practice more? I accept someone help me with the idea.

Sorry for my english, I'm from Argentina.

Rajaa Retired

You seem to be decent at animations already, you just need to look at some references to see how stances and stuff actually work. Can't comment on the shading because there isn't any.

I definitely think you should do a full sprite set of Luffy, why not? It'd be cool. There are a couple of stretching characters (Dhalsim and Necro) that you can reference. Although I'm not sure if Luffy can stretch willy-nilly without adding some kinetic energy to his limbs, they should still be of some use to you. =p

Chazzanova

Thanks for the comment Raaja!! Momentarily I keep trying the basic concepts. Thanks for recommending Necro and Dhalsim, had in mind to build on Dhalsim, but did not remember Necro.

What do you think of the proportion? In my view, Luffy is a bit disproportionate (as many Oda's characters), but maybe I'm taking a lot of that.

Anyway, thanks!

Rajaa Retired

The sprite in your avatar looks pretty decent, I like the style, but like said, you could use a work on the shading. You mostly need to pick a light source and go with it. What you have now is considered pillow shading, meaning there's no discernible light source (I think that's what it mean, I'm not expert on shading either, but I can make my shading not look like that. =p). The hat is fine, though.

Proportions are fine, at most, maybe he should have a big head, but I think the sprite in your signature is good enough to be something between chibi and "normal-sized."

If you're going for more capcomish style, then yo'ull probably want to reference the CvS Benimaru, and combine his thinness with the elasticity of the two aforementioned stretchers. I don't know, that's what I would do. =p


Chazzanova

Actually, I was thinking of trying a custom shading. The Capcom's Shading is amazing, but it is too complicated for me, I'm pretty bad with that issue. I was thinking of using outlines in it.

This is my first attempt, I really appreciate your opinion.


Shading Concept

Errors and corrections will be corrected when I be sure of what I've do.

Also I finished my concept of strong punch, Luffy uses more explicitly the Gomu Gomu no Mi.


AlexSin

It looks pretty cool.
Quote from: Chazzanova on February 24, 2013, 11:45:17 AM
Stand

I know he is made of rubber, but look at the right (your left) leg. I don't think he would stretch in a stand pose.

Chazzanova

#6
Thanks G.o.D.! Maybe I should apply less displacement, no? I think I can fix it.

I'm not convinced, but what do you think?


In another case, what do you think of the gameplay?

SkySplitters

Wow, this is actually not bad! I'm keeping an eye out for this!
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Rajaa Retired

Keep in mind that Luffy needs to apply kinetic energy to his limbs to have them stretch, so stretching in his idle stance would mostly be wrong, he's not Twelve who can just stretch and expand at will.

The shading is not bad, but I'll wait until I see a finished sprite to make a final judgement.

Chazzanova

@Mr.Snitch: Thanks!

@Raaja: I was thinking about the problem of the expansion, Maybe I should apply a little movement in his stance. Maybe a little jump, like Bluestark. Regarding the shading. I think I should practice more, I want to use a simple shading, but with this one, I can't apply many details. With that said, for now I will have to learn to shade. If anyone can help me at this point, I appreciate that.

This is my concept of Luffy's head with my shading (except the hair). I'm not convinced.


Sucks!

In another case: what about the gameplay? Have something in mind?


Run Concept

Infinite Daze

I'm really looking forward to this Luffy. I would love to see more non-chibi OP characters.

Chazzanova

#11
Thanks Infinite! I really appreciate your attention. Today I was trying to practice the CVS Shading. The results were terrible, I really take time to learn about this issue. For now I will continue practicing and designing concepts.


Stand to Crouch.


Jump

How think should be the gameplay? I was thinking something similar to the Z2 style...

Spoiler (click to show)


A - Light Kick
B - Medium Kick
C - Strong Kick
X - Light Punch

Y - Medium Punch

Z - Strong Punch

S - Taunt

System Moves

Run - →→

Backward Dash - ←←
Air Dash - ←← or →→ (in the Air)
Super Jump - ↓↑

Power Charge - B + Y
Focus Elastic Attack - C + Z
1-2 Throws
4-6 Counters

Special Moves

Gomu Gomu no Gatoringu - ↓↘→ + X or Y or Z
Gomu Gomu no Kyanon - ↓↙← + X or Y or Z (during Gomu Gomu no Gatoringu)

Gomu Gomu no Kane - ↓↙← + X or Y or Z
Gomu Gomu no Raifuru - ↓↙← + X or Y or Z (during Gomu Gomu no Kane)
Gomu Gomu no Bazooka - ↓↙← + X or Y or Z (during Gomu Gomu no Raifuru)

Gomu Gomu no Roketto - ↓↘→ + X or Y or Z (in the Air)

Gomu Gomu no Sutampu - ↓↘→ + A or B or C
Gomu Gomu no Muchi - ↓↘→ + A or B or C (during Gomu Gomu no Sutampu)

Gomu Gomu no Sutampu (Air) - ↓↙← + A or B or C (in the Air)

EX Versions for for some.

Super Moves

LV 1.

Gomu Gomu no Hanabi - ↓↘→ ↓↘→ + X or Y or Z

Gomu Gomu no Ono - ↓↙←↓↙← + A or B or C

LV 2.

Gomu Gomu no Sutōmu - ↓←↙ ↓↘→ + AB or AC or BC

Gia Sekando - ↓↓↓ + XA

Gomu Gomu no Jetto Gatoringu - ↓↘→↓↘→ + XY or XZ or YZ (in Gia Sekando mode)

LV 3.

??? Automatic Combo with different finishers like, Gia Sādo, Gigant Jet Shell, Giganto Thōru Akkusu, Nightmate Luffy, Afro Luffy, etc.

Please help me on this point too!

Chazzanova

I was trying to improve my shading.


Isn't a finished sprite.

Rajaa Retired

Dude, your shading has improved a lot in less than a month! And your animating skills are very topnotch, especially being unpolished, you're just one of the natural talents, aren't you? The shading looks decent, all comes from one light source, and I like the goofy/serious style of the sprites. Definitely keep at it.

As for gameplay style:

If you want to emulate the Z2 style, it would kinda fit functionally, Luffy being Shonen Jump and all (guess Z2 set the bar for that), but you could always come up with something different.

Give us a list of your ideas so we can help you arrange them into something coherent for a fighting game character. =p

Chazzanova

#14
Hey Raaja! Sorry for not responding sooner. Honestly I wasn't visiting this subforum lately. Today I read your post, and I think I ended up with the final concept of Luffy. This would be my first full project sprite:


Separated! I use the hands of Goku Z2 =P

And some palettes.


Default


Enies Lobby Arc


Amazon Lily Arc


Marineford Arc

About gameplay, I'll keep thinking about how to give my touch of diversity. Thanks Raaja for the attention. Some moderator could move this topic to the project's section? From now on, will move forward with the project, perhaps slowly because I start the high school during the next week, but I will try to stay active.

Prototype God

Looks good, but his right arm ( artists left)  looks bigger than the other arm. Keep it up!

ViBeZ

so what are ur plans for Gear Second?

Chazzanova

Quote from: Prototype God on March 11, 2013, 04:38:40 AM
Looks good, but his right arm ( artists left)  looks bigger than the other arm. Keep it up!


Better? :D Thanks.

Quote from: dncelestinx96 on March 11, 2013, 05:08:13 AM
so what are ur plans for Gear Second?

I would like to include it as a full mode, perhaps as a 10 seconds super, speeding up the gameplay of Luffy. Anyway, this should be discussed with the coder.

SkySplitters

This looks awesome! Improving a lot on short time, great news that is!
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Kanbei

Wow, this Luffy looks cool. It reminds me of Cvs game's shading.