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Jmorphman

 J-Grug what on earth are you talking about

Quote from: Highschooler Lolmechy on July 24, 2013, 12:56:58 AM
Im oppsed to dark samus just because it's another samus. Visual variety is also a factor.
They look about as similar as... I dunno, Marth and Ike. It's not a palette swap; there are very big differences, for both the immature Prime 2 incarnation and the fully-formed Prime 3 variation.

Quote from: Person Man on July 24, 2013, 12:59:40 AM
Uh-huh...
Dark Samus has many, many more abilities than just the ones cherry picked that are similar ones to Samus's. So much so that it qualifies as a different powerset. Clones, Phazon pillars, shotgun beams, Phazon traps, dive bombs, etc.

Quote from: Iced on July 24, 2013, 01:01:37 AM
Super missiles are obviously completely different from normal missiles, GAWD. They are like, super.
Samus already has Super Missiles!

Quote from: MC2 Da Palette Gawd on July 24, 2013, 01:05:41 AM
That's not even a remotely fair comparison.  Never in any game Wario has been has he had a power set that was identical to Mario's. 
Neither has Dark Samus. That would be, again, the SA-X.

MightyKombat

Just make Anthony Higgs playable like I said. BAM. Million seller right the fuck there.
There was a sig here. Its gone now (thanks photobucket ya fecks)

Mechy

Quote from: Jmorphman on July 24, 2013, 01:09:11 AM
They look about as similar as... I dunno, Marth and Ike. It's not a palette swap; there are very big differences, for both the immature Prime 2 incarnation and the fully-formed Prime 3 variation.
There really is not a "big difference". On a glance they look pretty much the same despite the colours. Marth and Ike comparison is pretty good actually since if you make them stand next to Samus and Ridley, the latter is much more visually interesting and distinctive.
"Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a diseased mind."

"Okay, okay. So you put a Nazi on the Moon. Fuck you, Moon."

Person Man

Quote from: MightyKombat on July 24, 2013, 01:13:06 AM
Just make Anthony Higgs playable like I said. BAM. Million seller right the fuck there.

^ I stand corrected.  Generic Identically-Armored Space Marine Number Eleventy Hyperbolillion would, in fact, be less interesting than Dark Samus.

Duos.act

Well for starters, Ike is not literally an evil being taking the guise of Marth with no real character, personality or lasting appeal

Jmorphman

Quote from: MightyKombat on July 24, 2013, 01:13:06 AM
Just make Anthony Higgs playable like I said. BAM. Million seller right the fuck there.
I think we all want someone but we're all embarrassed to say:

Armstrong Houston

Quote from: Highschooler Lolmechy on July 24, 2013, 01:14:01 AM
There really is not a "big difference". On a glance they look pretty much the same despite the colours.
They're humanoids with full body armor and armcannons on their right arms and a visor type thing on their heads and the vaguely same body shape. Aside from that they're pretty dang different.

Mechy

Quote from: Jmorphman on July 24, 2013, 01:19:12 AM
They're humanoids with full body armor and armcannons on their right arms and a visor type thing on their heads. Aside from that they're all different.
The said full body armor is almost the exact same shape. Visor and arm cannon have minor differences but serve the exact same purpose visually.

Don't make me make a diagram about this.
"Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a diseased mind."

"Okay, okay. So you put a Nazi on the Moon. Fuck you, Moon."

Iced

Oh, I want a diagram. I fucking love diagrams.

Tyrant Belial


Jmorphman

Quote from: Highschooler Lolmechy on July 24, 2013, 01:22:47 AM
The said full body armor is almost the exact same shape.
They share the highlights (big ass shoulder pads, armcannon, having a visor) but the structure of the armor is very different, in both of Dark Samus's appearances. A diagram isn't really needed, just lay them out side-by-side.

Duos.act

Bro if you don't understand why people don't want a character named DARK *name of character who is already playable* and design wise basically amounts to "exactly the same but with MORE" then I think you need to take a look at Link and Toon Link and tell me which one gets more play.

Titiln

if we're going by looks alone, luigi shouldn't be in the game at all since, at a glance, he's green mario. difference being that luigi has been in a shitload of games, some of his own, and developed his own personality and fanbase. i can't say any of that at all for dark samus. there's nothing going for the character in looks or personality or numerous game appearances

MightyKombat

I'd kill for Oiram from that New Super Mario Bros 2 creepypasta

also personman you are one boring ass son of a you know that
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Mechy

Quote from: Jmorphman on July 24, 2013, 01:32:24 AM
They share the highlights (big ass shoulder pads, armcannon, having a visor) but the structure of the armor is very different, in both of Dark Samus's appearances. A diagram isn't really needed, just lay them out side-by-side.
Nah, this gave me a reason to keep living for about 3 minutes.

Spoiler (click to show)
[img resized=1 width=618 height=800]http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Mercha/ART/effort.png[/img]
SCIENCE
"Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a diseased mind."

"Okay, okay. So you put a Nazi on the Moon. Fuck you, Moon."

Jmorphman

Quote from: MC2 Da Palette Gawd on July 24, 2013, 01:33:33 AM
Bro if you don't understand why people don't want a character named DARK *name of character who is already playable* and design wise basically amounts to "exactly the same but with MORE" then I think you need to take a look at Link and Toon Link and tell me which one gets more play.
Quote from: Titiln on July 24, 2013, 01:34:54 AM
if we're going by looks alone, luigi shouldn't be in the game at all since, at a glance, he's green mario. difference being that luigi has been in a shitload of games, some of his own, and developed his own personality and fanbase. i can't say any of that at all for dark samus. there's nothing going for the character in looks or personality or numerous game appearances
I get all of that. But Metroid doesn't have a very deep roster (nor is it a game that delves much into characterization), so ya gotta make due with what ya got. And I personally think Dark Samus would be the best bet but of the choices available, with Ridley being a close second. I want them both because Metroid needs more love! >:[

Iced

Quote from: Highschooler Lolmechy on July 24, 2013, 01:41:00 AM
Quote from: Jmorphman on July 24, 2013, 01:32:24 AM
They share the highlights (big ass shoulder pads, armcannon, having a visor) but the structure of the armor is very different, in both of Dark Samus's appearances. A diagram isn't really needed, just lay them out side-by-side.
Nah, this gave me a reason to keep living for about 3 minutes.

Spoiler (click to show)
[img resized=1 width=618 height=800]http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Mercha/ART/effort.png[/img]
SCIENCE

I am not pleased with this diagram, I need one that highlights the actual differences and makes a statistical compromise on what percentage of originality goes into it.

I need it done with a side comparison of ryu evil ryu for my mugen perspectives.

Darkflare

This is fascinating and all, but I'm more interested in the reasons on why you don't want any of the Hunters cast or Prime 3 bounty hunters over Dark Samus.

Titiln

between putting in a dark version of the main character or a bigass pterodactyl monster that has been in almost every game of the series i think the choice is fairly obvious

Mechy

Quote from: Iced on July 24, 2013, 01:46:13 AM
I am not pleased with this diagram, I need one that highlights the actual differences and makes a statistical compromise on what percentage of originality goes into it.

I need it done with a side comparison of ryu evil ryu for my mugen perspectives.
Sorry, tight budget.
Quote from: Darkflare on July 24, 2013, 01:47:06 AM
This is fascinating and all, but I'm more interested in the reasons on why you don't want any of the Hunters cast or Prime 3 bounty hunters over Dark Samus.
They just look retarded.
"Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a diseased mind."

"Okay, okay. So you put a Nazi on the Moon. Fuck you, Moon."

Iced

Quote from: Titiln on July 24, 2013, 01:48:13 AM
between putting in a dark version of the main character or a bigass pterodactyl monster that has been in almost every game of the series i think the choice is fairly obvious
yes, dark evil version of the main character is the obvious choice, most of the rigging work is already done