DvVasconcelos Project Thread - Bison SNK

[DvVasconcelos]

01,01,2016 - Update

Hello everybody, I walked a while away from Mugen yesterday and decided to play a little.

Bison 2.4

Added special attack Psycho Inferno
Added special attack Psycho Server
Added special attack Psycho Brain
Added Sdm Ultimate Psycho Crusher

Test and tell me what I need to improve.

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Spoiler: 16,09,2015 (click to show)

16,09,2015 - Update

Beta Version: M.Bison 2.3.2
Mugen 1.0 and 1.1






Added Special Attack Evil Stomp.
Fixed throwing DM Heartbreak Despair.
Added SDM Psycho Punisher.
Fixed damage Final Psycho Crusher.
Fixed sound K.O.
Taken special attacks in the air (except Bison Warp).

Credits:

Sounds extracted by GodRyu.
Sprites extracted by Shammahomega1 and Villen@.
Codes edited from RYU Shammahomega1, SVCVEGA H|h VEGA II MrKarate.
Other sprites by Thegde, 119-way, Caifan, ICBM and VioFlitz.

Next update: add other special attacks USFIV and better differentiate between Normal and Shin modes.

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Spoiler: 04,08,2015 (click to show)

Hello everyone!
A long time that I am making a character of M. Bison with SNK gameplay (or very close to it) and decided to release a beta so they can tell me what to fix.
Mugen 1.0 and 1.1.
Note: use the Bison H'h and Ryu Shammahomega as a base.
Credits: Shammahomega, H'h, Pots, ICBM, Caifan, Thegde and VioFitz.



https://www.dropbox.com/s/sore8as3e1wvgx5/Bison%202.3.rar?dl=0

Sorry my english.

[chuchoryu]

Hello everyone!
A long time that I am making a character of M. Bison with SNK gameplay (or very close to it) and decided to release a beta so they can tell me what to fix.
Note: use the Bison H'h and Ryu Shammahomega as a base.
Credits: Shammahomega, H'h, Pots, ICBM, Caifan, Thegde and VioFitz.



https://www.dropbox.com/s/sore8as3e1wvgx5/Bison%202.3.rar?dl=0

Sorry my english.

Now my MKvsSF Chaos is more complete!!!!

[drewski90]

here's some feedback:

-bison has ryu's battle cry from svc
-is it intentional that his psycho crusher super takes too much damage

that's all i got

[DvVasconcelos]

here's some feedback:

-bison has ryu's battle cry from svc
-is it intentional that his psycho crusher super takes too much damage

that's all i got

Thanks for pointing out these problems.
Will decrease the amount of damage Final Psycho Crisher to 590, which despite being a high value, yet consistent with the damage value of the original game.

[MotorRoach]

This is a really good Bison so far, I'm enjoying what's done for him so far. There are only some nitpicks that I have:

- Namely, I feel that his jump is too high. While I didn't main Bison that much, it certainly feels very floaty to jump with him in your character-- the same goes for his short jump
- I feel that it's silly to use one of the buttons just to use a SDM move-- it feels like a very weird choice for a shortcut. If anything, instead of triggering the SDM move, it could use a knockback attack instead (the one that a character uses in KOF games, when pressing HP+HK)
- The C buttons has no use. Not that it is exactly an issue, but it could be used for either dodging, or turning Max mode (ala KOF 2002) on-- that is if you have any plans for including something like that for Bison, because if you don't, then yeah, just use the C button for dodging
- Letting him use his charge attacks in air certainly makes him feel slightly overpowered-- at least for KOF standards

[DvVasconcelos]

This is a really good Bison so far, I'm enjoying what's done for him so far. There are only some nitpicks that I have:

- Namely, I feel that his jump is too high. While I didn't main Bison that much, it certainly feels very floaty to jump with him in your character-- the same goes for his short jump
- I feel that it's silly to use one of the buttons just to use a SDM move-- it feels like a very weird choice for a shortcut. If anything, instead of triggering the SDM move, it could use a knockback attack instead (the one that a character uses in KOF games, when pressing HP+HK)
- The C buttons has no use. Not that it is exactly an issue, but it could be used for either dodging, or turning Max mode (ala KOF 2002) on-- that is if you have any plans for including something like that for Bison, because if you don't, then yeah, just use the C button for dodging
- Letting him use his charge attacks in air certainly makes him feel slightly overpowered-- at least for KOF standards

Good thing the character is fun to play, my intention was to make a more challenging M. Bison.

- I was using the z button as SDM to test the combos (I was having trouble with my keyboard) and I forgot to remove this assignment.
- I will trade the Z button to LP + LK and the C button to HP + HK.
- As for the jump, you're right, M. Bison will always heavy character. I give a way to decrease the range of his jump.
- As for Max mode (ala KOF 2002) have no plans to include it, at least for now (I have a little difficulty in properly do the codes of max cancels).
- Charge attacks in the air, it was what I saw in Bison Nyapamaster and had found interesting, but as you pointed out these attacks are far from KOF.

Once I have time will correct the errors pointed out.
Thanks for the feedback!

[NiO ErZeBeTh]

I'm interested on this character, will test soon!

[DvVasconcelos]

UPDATE!!

[chuchoryu]

Some plans for SNK Blanka?

[JustNoPoint]

Please do not come into WIP threads asking about characters not being made/shown. It's rude.

[EveryonesKouhai]

What style of snk will he have

[DvVasconcelos]

Some plans for SNK Blanka?

I have no plans to do another character, at least for now.
I might make a Firebrand in the distant future.

What style of snk will he have

A customized gameplay between KOF98 and KOF2002 with DMs three levels and two modes of struggle.

I ask that test the character and let me know what I can do to improve it.
Awaiting feedback.

[MotorRoach]

I still can't help but to feel that Bison is way too floaty whenever he jumps, because it almost feels like I'm playing as Dhalsim. To clarify in here, the normal jumps just go way too high, and the short jump goes up to the height that I would expect out of a normal jump, instead of a short jump. You also need to make him fall faster, whenever he is jumping, but just a little faster.

Another thing that makes him inaccurate to the KOF style (a tad overpowered too) is the fact that he can chain the basic attacks in a similar fashion to Marvel vs Capcom games. Such thing just feels very unfitting to this play style. Because of that, I could chain in basic moves with the B+LP and two special moves, and easily took more than half of the opponent's bar.

And a little nitpick, but I'd really rather have you to change the landing sound effect, as it just sounds loud and exaggerated for plain landing. A simpler sounding effect would be an improvement, in my opinion.

[DvVasconcelos]

I still can't help but to feel that Bison is way too floaty whenever he jumps, because it almost feels like I'm playing as Dhalsim. To clarify in here, the normal jumps just go way too high, and the short jump goes up to the height that I would expect out of a normal jump, instead of a short jump. You also need to make him fall faster, whenever he is jumping, but just a little faster.

I set the speed of runjump.fwd to the value of 5, the runjump.fwd to -5 and yaccel to the value of 0.62 I think the result was better than before.

Another thing that makes him inaccurate to the KOF style (a tad overpowered too) is the fact that he can chain the basic attacks in a similar fashion to Marvel vs Capcom games. Such thing just feels very unfitting to this play style. Because of that, I could chain in basic moves with the B+LP and two special moves, and easily took more than half of the opponent's bar.

I removed the possibility of linking other blows after Psycho Impact (B, DB, B + P). I think it diminishes the character of the problem be too overpowered.
A question, you think I should take the Psycho Break (B + LP), to be closer to KOF?

And a little nitpick, but I'd really rather have you to change the landing sound effect, as it just sounds loud and exaggerated for plain landing. A simpler sounding effect would be an improvement, in my opinion.

Fixed!

Thanks for the feedback, the errors pointed out were fixed.
Waiting for more feedback.

[MotorRoach]

Not sure with what you mean regarding Psycho Break being closer to KOF. What did you have in mind anyway?

[DvVasconcelos]

Not sure with what you mean regarding Psycho Break being closer to KOF. What did you have in mind anyway?

About the fact that it is possible to chain several basic strokes with Psycho Break (B + LP) make the gameplay inaccurate to KOF style.

Liked to play M. Bison in Omega mode of USFIV, it was far more offensive compared to normal. I wanted to spend this offensiveness to char, but do not want to make it in an extremely broken char.

[MotorRoach]

Actually, going from a basic move to an unique attack is something that is mostly common in KOF games, so you can keep it as it is.

[Melcore]

Been playing with this guy all day, so much fun, his AI is pretty entertaining too, he can hold his own against some pretty tough opponents, as it should be, i mean he's Bison 
Thank you for making an amazingly fun snk styled bison.

you inspired me, i finally made this for you sir.

[DvVasconcelos]

Been playing with this guy all day, so much fun, his AI is pretty entertaining too, he can hold his own against some pretty tough opponents, as it should be, i mean he's Bison 
Thank you for making an amazingly fun snk styled bison.

That was my intention to char, make it challenging as M. Bison should be. Although Artificial Intelligence has much room for improvement still.

you inspired me, i finally made this for you sir.

The portrait is good, maybe I use the image on char.

[Melcore]

I got some feedback and made a slight change, use which ever one you want, when you want  


can't wait to see the new AI improvements you are going to implement though, I've been wanting a scary snk styled bison on my roster for a long time.