sprite issues

Started by IKEISLEGEND, March 29, 2016, 01:33:40 AM

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IKEISLEGEND

Can anyone show me what to use to make chars do other chars moves? I have so many chars I wanna me but I have no iidea how to do that


Exampe; Asura has akumas moves?? rare akuma has all sprites from other games
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XGargoyle

you add these sprites into the character and code the attacks


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IKEISLEGEND

I use FF3 but its char editing capabilities are weak what im trying to do cant be done in FF3
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Cyanide

If it can't be done in FF3 it can't be done at all. You cannot simply take move X from another character and have it magically appear in something else.

1: The other character may not have the sprites. So these must either be ripped aor created and added to the SFF file
2: The other character may be using an animation that is already in use in your character, so you need to re-create or at least relabel the animation with the correct number, probably re-create because the sprite numbers themselves may already be in use
3: The other character may be using a state and/or variables that are already in use in your character, you need to change all of these
4: the other character's command may already be in use in your character, this needs to be altered as well.

And that's just the basics. There is more such as sound, FX, clsnboxes to recreate. There is no simple method of taking move X and adding it to something else. There never has been, and probably never will be because this requires a certain amount of mind reading and NO program is going to know which sprites are "right" from the original sff file.

See my signature, there is no magic button. I've had that for like, 10 years, nobody has found one yet.


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IKEISLEGEND

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I understand that its not simple. Let me explain what im trying to do, I want kim to be able to do kens tatsumaki kick. That would be a sprite edit, is that possibe in FF3?
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Cyanide

Kinda. You still have to actually code the move. FF3 has a sprite editing function but it's really limited because with everything that it is, sprite editing software it really isn't.

If you simply wish to edit sprites, load up MSPaint, that has everything you need to edit things.


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NiO ErZeBeTh

You can also use Photoshop and make that sprite using layers to have an easier time doing it.

FF3 has an image edit tool, but it's kinda limited and also it's way better the FFClassic way to edit, it's like a biuld in MSPaint were you don't have to do anything more than add or erase pixels, no extra menus or whatsoever.

If you have found characters that have other characters moves (Like Ogre Akuma for example) that means the creator actually draw them, maybe from scrach or mostly using franken-spriting, a technique were you can copy-paste certain parts of the character, paste them together and fix and fullfill them to have a new sprite, this saves time and also most of the times works because you are already using existing sprites and style of said character.

There's for example a Yuri (KOF) and Shingo with Rugal Kicks, that means the creator saw the Rugal Kick sprites and using Yuri or Shingo sprites edit them to look like that, and of course, later, he coded them into the character.

Hope that helps.
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IKEISLEGEND

Thanks guys im skilled at making chars I just suck at sprite editing and variables. I tried both FF3 and classic they both are not good but Ill go with the layering option and see what happens. Im tryna make a char sorta like Asura jus changing move sets and changing sprites. Thanks for the replies guys
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