Capcom Vs SNK RETRO

Started by bis1994, April 21, 2016, 07:22:30 AM

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bis1994

Hi guys, I'm a huge fan of capcom vs snk (from psx) then I just decided to try to bring this awesome game back to life in mugen, I've started this project two months ago, and I'm needing some help with bringing some chars into POTS Style, but with some modifications...
All chars will have
- Power charge
- Roll Foward/Back
- Parry System
- Zero Counter
- NO Max Mode (from Divinewolf Chars) or Custom Combo (From POTS Chars)
- That "cool" Special/Super Finish FX
- High Jump
- Fall Recovery
- No Envshake
- Skillpoints System (or something like SFV...) (Life, Strenght, Agility, Defence, Range, Energy)
- And some unique gameplay features...

The Screenpack is a heavy edited version of enlightedshadow's cvs3 (I've removed some things... and now it can run in a notebook With a I3 and a Intel HD 3000 spenging around 600-1000 of RAM!!! And changed drastically the design to look more like the game from psx, but it stills a WIP)

THE ROSTER
EX= alternative gameplay (like in psx game, other moves...)

!=I Have the char
!!=I have the char and it's already in the game (and matching the gameplay style)

Capcom
1 - Ryu!! (Evi Ryu)! (Shin Evil Ryu)!
2 - Ken!! (Evil Ken)!
3 - Chun-Li! (Shadow Lady)! (Chun-Li Street Fighter Zero)!
4 - Cammy!! (Cammy Shadaloo Doll)!! (Cammmy Delta)!
5 - Guile!
6 - Sakura!! (Dark Sakura)!
7 - Karin! (Dark Karin)!
8 - Alex!
9 - Blanka!
10 - Honda!
11 - Blair!
12 - Sean! (Sean Ex)!
13 - Rose! (Magician Rose)!
14 - Poison!
15 - Gen!
16 - Gouken!
17 - Juli!
18 - Sodom!
19 - Skullomania!
20 - Rolento!
21 - Sagat!
22 - Morrigan! (Maybe I'll add Morrilith from MVC)!
23 - Ingrid!
24 - Jill!!
25 - nash (Shadow)!
26 - Eliza!!
27 - Dan!
28 - Birdie!
29 - C.Viper!
30 - Juri!
31 - Vega! (Shin Vega)!
32 - Gouki! (Shin Gouki)! (Oni)!
33 - Gill!
34 - Urien!
35 - Seth!
36 - Strider Hiryu!
37 - Guy!
38 - Batsu!

Maybe these
- Cody!
- Zangief
- Yun!
- Yang!
- Haggar!
- Hugo!
- Jedah!
- Lilith!
- Felicia!
- Adon!
- BBH!
- C.Commando!
- Demitri!
- Donovan!
- Hinata!
- Tiffany!
- Kysuke!
- Dudley!
- makoto!


SNK
1 - Kyo! (Kusanagi)!
2 - Iori! (Orochi Iori)!
3 - K'!
4 - Terry!! (Terry EX )!
5- Kula!
6 - Mai!!
7 - Joe!!
8 - Vice!
9 - Griffon!
10 - Ryo!
11 - Takuma! (Takuma EX )!
12 - Yuri!!
13 - Robert! (Robert from Neo Geo Battle Coliseum)!
14 - King!
15 - Duo Lon!
16 - Yamazaki!
17 - Athena!!
18 - Ralf!
19 - Clark!
20 - Rock!
21 - B.Jeneth!
22 - Billy!
23 - Benimaru!
24 - Mr.Karate! (Serious Mr.Karate)!
25 - Nakoruru!!
26 - Marco!
27 - Kim!
28 - Andy! (Andy EX)!
29 - Kain!
30 - Krauser!
31 - Laurence!
32 - Haohmaru! (Rassentsumaru)!
33 - Earthquake!
34 - Mickey!
35 - Saisyu!
36 - Ash! (Dark Ash)!
37 - Grant!
38 - Rugal! (God Rugal)!
39 - Geese! (Nightmare Geese)!

There are some which I would like to add. but there is no a POTS styled version
- Leona! (thanks to 1.8.7)
- Dahlsim
- Balrog (Claw)
- M.Bison (Boxer)
- Raiden (Wrestler of SNK)
- Rainbow Mika
- Mature
- Shermie/Orochi Shermie
- Chris/Orochi Cris
- Yashiro/Orochi Yashiro
- Orochi

All help with these chars will be apreciated!

Ok, now let me shut my mouth and show some stuff...



= and I also plan to add that add004 system
= If someone knows any Unlocking char system for mugen, PLEASE SHOW ME ASAP!!
= Oops, I forgot to say that it will be for mugen 1.1

Some extra Info
- All chars will have new palletes
- About the "unique gameplay", it's something like: Jill wil have low damage on every physical move, and high damage on every gunfire move, athena will have low HP, but her power charge is the fastest of the game (due to her psychic powers...)
- despite the crappy quality of the videos, the game resolution will be in 1280 x 720

More Videos!




And sorry if you see any "bad english mistake" above

One more thing that I need Help with, the skill points. Here is a pre made list with some chars. All help/opinion is welcome, all chars from the psx game are balanced based on the original game's ratio system .

Rules to follow:

Life
1 - 900
2 - 1050
3 - 1200
4 - 1350
5 - 1500
Strenght/Defence
1 - 90
2 - 115
3 - 120
4 - 135
5 - 150

- Agility (will be based on chain combo, movement speed, wall-jump (chun-li/Mai), walk/Run Speed  etc...)
- Energy (How Mutch faster Power Bar will fill while power charging)
- Range (based on how mutch long is the distance that the projectiles/moves can reach

Take a look (it Will be regulary Updated)

Spoiler (click to show)

------------ Ryu (POTS)
Life - 3 (1200)
Strenght - 3 (120)
Defence - 3 (120)
Agility - 2
Range - 3
Energy - 2

------------ Ken (Jmorphman)
Life - 3 (1200)
Strenght - 3 (120)
Defence - 3 (120)
Agility - 2
Range - 3
Energy - 2



ShinZankuro

Man, that's a beautiful screenpack and a promisor project!! :D

The only thing I want to suggest [It's a visual thing, but ok] is to you use the actual mini television animations from the source game on the VS Screen background.

Also, the intro distortion before the Char select shows up from the same game.

Overall, keep it up man! :D
- Want to commission me for a artwork? Just come here
- Donations is welcome

bis1994

Quote from: ShinZankuro on April 21, 2016, 07:28:20 AM
Man, that's a beautiful screenpack and a promisor project!! :D

The only thing I want to suggest [It's a visual thing, but ok] is to you use the actual mini television animations from the source game on the VS Screen background.

Also, the intro distortion before the Char select shows up from the same game.

Overall, keep it up man! :D

Oh thanks, and the vs screen is not ready yet, actually, neither the select screen is... but I will follow your advice (I was really lacking of ideas for the vs screen...)

ShinZankuro

I did see only now you're brazilian like me LOL

If you want I can rip these effects, can save a lot of your work :)
- Want to commission me for a artwork? Just come here
- Donations is welcome

Noside

Yeesss! finally someone made this! please add the robot voice announcer in the character select. :)

【MFG】gui0007

I definitely follow this one, good luck! :D

Momotaro

Impressive project!
It's awesome!
I like the fact small portraits are compatible with regular size.

I have a little something for CVS1 inspired SP.
Will you release SP as a standalone aswell?

I would like Shermie and Angel to be in this game, particulary since they have CVS sprite set.
Still need them to be released...

Anyway keep it up

1.8.7

#7
Damn that screenpack tho...Hey maybe i can help you with Leona.Just PM me if you want the P.o.T.s - like Leona that zeroSenin made.



EDIT:I already PM you the link.Since i got limited internet...I may not be online in a couple of days.

bis1994

Quote from: Noside on April 21, 2016, 04:52:50 PM
Yeesss! finally someone made this! please add the robot voice announcer in the character select. :)

YASSS I will definitely add this!

bis1994

#9
Quote from: Nedflandeurse on April 21, 2016, 06:42:30 PM
Impressive project!
It's awesome!
I like the fact small portraits are compatible with regular size.

I have a little something for CVS1 inspired SP.
Will you release SP as a standalone aswell?

I would like Shermie and Angel to be in this game, particulary since they have CVS sprite set.
Still need them to be released...

Anyway keep it up

Thanks! I also want to add Shermie, but I don't have enough knowledge in coding to start a char from the zero, and neither japanese knowledge to patch any existing shermie... thats why I started to ask for help...  And Yes, after completing the Project, I will release the SP and some chars separated

Flowrellik

#10
Gotta say this looks very fantastic! Will you use the latest add004 for this? I know for single characters there is a type of groove system based on palettes in there, 3 total: the 3-lvl bar groove (Standard with 3+ lvls. Lvl 2-3 attacks can be done normally), the Max bar Groove (One bar, lvl 1 attacks at max, parry system, and 25% health = Max turns SUPER, possible lvl1 infinites and LVL2+ attacks active), and the SVC CHAOS Groove (Works like a mix of SamSho+SVC. You get hit = more energy. Start off at 50% bar with lvl 1 attacks. has Just Defend system(which doubles the amount of energy you get than getting hit. When Bar is full, it goes MAXIMUM and slowly drains, but allows LVL2-lvl3 attacks)
If you can look inside the common01.cns on this, maybe there can be a way where you can use these bar systems to your advantage!
as far as characters go....I think Shinrei MIGHT help but atm I'm not sure where he's at atm. Probably on vacation of sorts since his CVSU Ikemen demo got released. His Demo has a decent set of POTS styled characters.

bis1994

Quote from: Flowrellik on April 21, 2016, 11:15:44 PM
Gotta say this looks very fantastic! Will you use the latest add004 for this? I know for single characters there is a type of groove system based on palettes in there, 3 total: the 3-lvl bar groove (Standard with 3+ lvls. Lvl 2-3 attacks can be done normally), the Max bar Groove (One bar, lvl 1 attacks at max, parry system, and 25% health = Max turns SUPER, possible lvl1 infinites and LVL2+ attacks active), and the SVC CHAOS Groove (Works like a mix of SamSho+SVC. You get hit = more energy. Start off at 50% bar with lvl 1 attacks. has Just Defend system(which doubles the amount of energy you get than getting hit. When Bar is full, it goes MAXIMUM and slowly drains, but allows LVL2-lvl3 attacks)
If you can look inside the common01.cns on this, maybe there can be a way where you can use these bar systems to your advantage!
as far as characters go....I think Shinrei MIGHT help but atm I'm not sure where he's at atm. Probably on vacation of sorts since his CVSU Ikemen demo got released. His Demo has a decent set of POTS styled characters.

Well, I didn't know that, I was suposed to use only the guard break and stun system (not the tag). Actually, I was planning to pick the default add004 bars and transform into something more "looking like cvs".
And I have shinrei's Ikemen, there's some precious things there! Anyway thanks for the feedback!

Flowrellik

The demo or the full game? ( I ask cause afaik Shinrei's,,,,afk to somewhere idk where)

Devon

Can't see your other 2 videos because you set them to private?

Interesting premise, although I think you should stick to either having max mode or custom combo rather than mixing or matching them both.

Good luck, I'll be keeping an eye on this project (doing similar things, we are).

bis1994

#14
Quote from: Devon for President '16 on April 22, 2016, 02:31:12 AM
Can't see your other 2 videos because you set them to private?

Interesting premise, although I think you should stick to either having max mode or custom combo rather than mixing or matching them both.

Good luck, I'll be keeping an eye on this project (doing similar things, we are).

Thanks! It will not be mixed, some chars will have Max Mode, some chars will have Custom combo, like the original releases.

I've set the videos to public, try to watch again

bis1994

Quote from: Flowrellik on April 22, 2016, 12:20:47 AM
The demo or the full game? ( I ask cause afaik Shinrei's,,,,afk to somewhere idk where)

The demo

Noside

Make it sound like this. (from the very 1st second on groove select and on til' the end) :woeh:
Spoiler (click to show)

BahamianKing242

very cool! but im also doing the samething! you guys can check out my version of cvs pots style chars im putting together here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDRQBq9eye8 game still w.i.p. not to sound cocky but my cvs mugen looks better than this and plays better than this. i edit to the fullest

Trololo

#18
Quote from: BahamianKing100 on April 22, 2016, 12:40:15 PM
very cool! but im also doing the samething! you guys can check out my version of cvs pots style chars im putting together here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDRQBq9eye8 game still w.i.p. not to sound cocky but my cvs mugen looks better than this and plays better than this. i edit to the fullest

Ohhh, mmeeeen...
HOW can ONE P.o.T.S. compilation can be PLAYING BETTER, than ANOTHER ONE P.o.T.S. compilation?
And nope. On mine oppinion your screenpack doesn't looks better.

1.8.7

As much i like P.O.T.S style than the other guy.I think you should have Custom Combo for Capcom side and Max Mode for SNK.I mean its Capcom vs SNK afterall....so why not :).