The Lord of the Flies' WIPs

Started by The Lord of the Flies, August 30, 2007, 04:26:24 AM

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This thread, I frankly think will be short.
This thread will now be my WIP thread, so I don't expect it to be short :P.

I'm currently updating Violent Ken (necessary). I'd like to, if you happen to have its first release, receive some feedback on what should be changed, tweaked, etc. Plus, I'm adding some things that were missing on it. Like for example its Midnight Bliss animation.

Also, I started to plan custom intros vs certain chars for both, God Rugal and Violent Ken. I already have one (kinda simple) intro for V.Ken vs Vega/Bison. Feel free to post your ideas for custom intros for either character. Ah yes, I also planned to add a special intro for G. Rugal vs V.Ken. You'll see.

Off-topic: Is Winane dead? I've been trying to contact him for a while now but to no success :S.
Winane revived.

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the only s. intro i can think of for your ken is to have him something when ever he meets a ryu.
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Quote from: Dishamonpow on August 30, 2007, 04:43:44 AM
the only s. intro i can think of for your ken is to have him something when ever he meets a ryu.
Yeah, but what ???.

For Violent Ken, the must-have intros, are Vega/Bison and Ryu. I dunno who else. Orochi Iori? Gouki? Don't know who else.

God Rugal, I suppose against Orochi itself and (Shin) Gouki. Maybe Goenitz? Don't know much about KoF history.

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Quote from: L.o.t.F. on August 30, 2007, 06:04:08 AM
Quote from: Dishamonpow on August 30, 2007, 04:43:44 AM
the only s. intro i can think of for your ken is to have him something when ever he meets a ryu.
Yeah, but what ???.

For Violent Ken, the must-have intros, are Vega/Bison and Ryu. I dunno who else. Orochi Iori? Gouki? Don't know who else.

VK has an animation at the beginning of his Shinbu Messatsu that may be useful for most or all of those, the brief "freaking out" one. He appears to combine aspects of Psycho Power (declared someone in SvC, I think), Stasui no Hadou and Orochi, so those you mentioned would work, as would Goenitz and other major orochi characters - Yashiro at least.

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God Rugal, I suppose against Orochi itself and (Shin) Gouki. Maybe Goenitz? Don't know much about KoF history.

Goenitz would be adequate, he and Rugal have some history (G took R's eye and gave him an orochi boost). Other characters Rugal has history or special intros with in KoF games are Saishyu, Chris, Kyo and Heidern in the very least. Since it's God Rugal you're working on, on the capcom side Gouki should be enough, otherwise everyone he turned into a statue might make for a decent intro.

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Thx for the tips, Loona. I'll try to do around 3 special intros for each characteres. V.Ken already has one for Vega/Bison. Also, your avatar inspired my current one  FYI  :ninja:.

For the intro for G.Rugal vs V.Ken, I was thinking on a speech intro ala SvC. They would argue, then do a semi-original intro pose. Fight then starts. Good or bad idea?

Btw, I'm still receiving any bug/error feedback on V.Ken :P.

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The thing with the speech is that (at least from what I've seen) text based intros can seem Hokey. I'd hate to see something like:
Rugal: You're strong.
Ken: You're strong. Let's fight!
It'd just be a let down. I'm all for a special pose for them, but text just seems like an addon that is sometimes better left not being used. Also, if you did go text based, what would they say? They've had really no personal quarrels within the crossover games.

It is entirely up to you if you want text, I just wouldn't want a few poor words to ruin the intro.

Snake

why not the freakout-intro with Chloe's Violent Ken?

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Quote from: Funkilicious Jones on August 31, 2007, 05:02:12 AM
The thing with the speech is that (at least from what I've seen) text based intros can seem Hokey. I'd hate to see something like:
Rugal: You're strong.
Ken: You're strong. Let's fight!
It'd just be a let down. I'm all for a special pose for them, but text just seems like an addon that is sometimes better left not being used. Also, if you did go text based, what would they say? They've had really no personal quarrels within the crossover games.
Lol. It certainly wouldn't have that speech dullness. I could throw in practically whatever I want. Maybe even them breaking the fourth wall, dunno.

Quote from: Azel on August 31, 2007, 05:30:05 AM
why not the freakout-intro with Chloe's Violent Ken?
Chloe's Violent Ken hmm? I really need to start educating myself on authors and such. I'll look into that creation. Err...what's the "freakout-intro" ???.

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Chloe's sexy peish.
http://cutemugen.free.fr/

Just in case Chloe's works are listed as opensource, all of it.

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Quote from: Loona on August 30, 2007, 04:43:44 PM
VK has an animation at the beginning of his Shinbu Messatsu that may be useful for most or all of those, the brief "freaking out" one.

freaking out cause he SEES ANOTHER ONE OF HIM OMG...

like that arnold swartzhowzitzpelld skit from MadTV "End of Days 3", with clones

"I am your clone!"
"But...I am YOUR CLONE!"
"Then Whos Clone AM I?!"
"YOUR MY CLONE!"
"BUT YOUR MINE?!? *Insert arnold sound*"

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Quote from: Blue Wolfmage XX on August 31, 2007, 06:13:39 AM
Chloe's sexy peish.
http://cutemugen.free.fr/
You, good sir, should get moderator powahs on the request section. Your damn knowledge on creations and such is encyclopedic, really!

Quote from: Azel on August 31, 2007, 06:15:12 AM
Quote from: Loona on August 30, 2007, 04:43:44 PM
VK has an animation at the beginning of his Shinbu Messatsu that may be useful for most or all of those, the brief "freaking out" one.
Oh, that. Yes of course :sugoi:.

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 --; I don't think it's good, anyway watch the edit in case.

Good luck dude.

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Btw, is Chloe still around? If so, I could contact him to make a special intro between both v.kens in collaboration with him.

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Aw sorry, Chloe is a she and left mugen years ago, got married or something.
But left all that opensource before leaving at least. There's also a CVS Athena she made around her posts.

Loona

Quote from: L.o.t.F. on August 31, 2007, 02:23:44 AM
Thx for the tips, Loona. I'll try to do around 3 special intros for each characteres. V.Ken already has one for Vega/Bison. Also, your avatar inspired my current one  FYI  :ninja:.

Neat =D

QuoteFor the intro for G.Rugal vs V.Ken, I was thinking on a speech intro ala SvC. They would argue, then do a semi-original intro pose. Fight then starts. Good or bad idea?

Not to keen on a speech for reasons already stated above, but some animation that'll make sense for both of them would be cool, them being "semi-orochified" "satsui-no-hadoued" crossover characters - what comes to mind as an intro is the two of them dashing at each other from opposite from their opposite sides (Ex: Ken's player 1 and he dashes from the right) so that they clash in the middle of the screen on the way to their places, and when they do clash the screen would go briefly dark with only the orochi energy pillar with the skull in it appearing quickly, perhaps a coupld of times, as an effect of the clash.

Chloe OS'ed her stuff?... All of it?... interesting, I might look into a silly old idea inspired by LimitedMoon's Pocket Athena...

Tamerlane

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I'm still waiting for a response on the Misogi. >;o

And another thing, do you plan to keep the AI teleport-spam friendly? It is quite consistent in Rugals title as a Boss.

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@Blue: Ah too bad. Well, at least I can use HER edited sprites for my own purposes  :).

@Loona: Interesting idea, Loona. It could also be a tribute (or parody, depending on your point of view) to the classic Gouki vs E.Ryu intro. I'll work on it.

@Deviant: You wanted me to add Misogi to G.Rugal right? If you get me some nice-looking sprites I MIGHT add it :P. And yeah, I don't think I'll touch AI for now. Too lazy.

Almost forgot:
Quote from: L.o.t.F. on August 30, 2007, 04:26:24 AM
Off-topic: Is Winane dead? I've been trying to contact him for a while now but to no success :S.

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Got some free time today, so I made the intro for God Rugal vs Violent Ken As you will see, it is kind of a homage to the classic Gouki vs Evil Ryu intro:
They rush at each other


Hey grab each other


Make hitsparks on each other


Orochi skull explodes while they back off. Fight then begins.



To do list:
- Keep updating/tweaking Violent Ken (NEED FEEDBACK ON BUGS AND SUCH)
- Add the counterattack after the dodge motion (a+x) to both characters.
- Replace those bad-looking flame animations for the flames of PotS' chars (permission asked and granted of course).
- Some minor AI tweak here and there for G.Rugal. And a good update on Violent Ken's AI.
- G.Rugal needs two moar custom intros (Orochi's is already planned, so I'm just missing one).
- Violent Ken needs one moar custom intro (accepting ideas).

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Quote from: Snake on August 31, 2007, 06:15:12 AM
Quote from: Loona on August 30, 2007, 04:43:44 PM
VK has an animation at the beginning of his Shinbu Messatsu that may be useful for most or all of those, the brief "freaking out" one.
like that arnold swartzhowzitzpelld skit from MadTV "End of Days 3", with clones

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A few bugs I found in:

-Sometimes the Shinbu Messatsu don't do all the hits and the P2 stay in stand anim
after the shin shoryuken, instead of receive the damage and goes to the air.

He's a good char to play, nice work
;)

a few suggestions for intro:

-VS Vega: Vega stays in stand v.ken too, but Vega ignores him and v.ken flame his punch with psycho power and Vega be surprised and laugh.

-VS Orochi Iori; Iori (CvS): A couple of ''friendly fight'' just a imitation of the intro of iori vs vega.

-VS Gouki; Shin Gouki: A couple of punches and kicks, finishes with a ''   
Your level not yet is next to mine, continues trying'' way or something like that.