Firefox trouble.

( ﾟ oﾟ) It's Urza! · October 19, 2007, 08:35:47 PM

I restarted my computer after the power went out.
Once it rebooted I found out that all of my bookmarks in Firefox are now gone.
Even more troublesome is that now every time I open it, all of the toolbars I disabled keep reappearing.

Messatsu · October 19, 2007, 11:41:28 PM

File corrupted by having the bookmark file being manipulated at the same time as the power outage?? Look to see where on the HDD bookmarks are stored in Firefox (I don't know).

Bastard Mami · October 19, 2007, 11:44:56 PM

yeah, firefox is very weak to power outtages. i can't really help much since i use linkstash to organize my bookmarks, and even before that i always keep backups of them.

Winane · October 20, 2007, 12:16:50 AM

If you're using Windows XP, then you should be able to find Firefox's bookmarks here:
C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\********.default\
In that folder, Firefox keeps your current bookmarks file (bookmarks.html) and a backup copy of that file (bookmarks.bak).
In addition, there should be a subfolder there named "bookmarkbackups", where Firefox keeps several recent daily backups of your bookmarks file. So, just figure out which one of those is the most recent non-corrupt one, and use it to replace bookmarks.html in the parent directory. And save a backup copy somewhere else, while you're at it.

As for the other problem, maybe reinstalling Firefox would help. New version came out yesterday anyway.

Valodim · October 20, 2007, 05:34:15 AM

you could also use opera. I have never experienced a loss of bookmarks, not even open tabs

( ﾟ oﾟ) It's Urza! · October 20, 2007, 08:09:46 AM

Quote from: Valodim on October 20, 2007, 05:34:15 AM
you could also use opera. I have never experienced a loss of bookmarks, not even open tabs

Opera eats memory like there's no tomorrow.

Thanks for the input y'all.

Renzo F · October 20, 2007, 08:24:21 AM

Quote from: Valodim on October 20, 2007, 05:34:15 AM
you could also use opera. I have never experienced a loss of bookmarks, not even open tabs

I was wondering who was going to suggest that.

Valodim · October 20, 2007, 04:05:40 PM

It's always me.

Quote from: Urza, Planeswalker on October 20, 2007, 08:09:46 AM
Opera eats memory like there's no tomorrow.

It does evidently use slightly more memory, that's right. And you care... why? Does your RAM usage ever go above 80% while you aren't doing any really resource-intensive stuff, like gaming? Unless you have 512 or less, the ram usage of applications is hardly an issue nowadays, besides windows' memory and swap managment has become quite acceptable with the years

Ah well. Not going to argue much here, just sayin'.

Bastard Mami · October 20, 2007, 04:55:57 PM

actually, apps like firefox and opera are built on the idea that unused ram is wasted ram, so they eat ram on purpose, after all, not many of us use critical applications while browsing the web.

Renzo F · October 20, 2007, 10:55:32 PM

It's funny, I switched to Opera because -for me- it seems like Firefox is the resource hog biatch.

Cybaster · October 22, 2007, 09:23:28 AM

Quote from: Renzo [a.k.a. Shin Orochi Sachavaca] on October 20, 2007, 10:55:32 PM
It's funny, I switched to Opera because -for me- it seems like Firefox is the resource hog biatch.

Opera eats much more RAM than Firefox.

Bastard Mami · October 22, 2007, 03:24:31 PM

but, does it really has any negative effects ? i have got firefox using over 500 mbs of ram (ona 1 gb machine), and it does not affect the performance at all.

K.O.D · October 22, 2007, 03:38:23 PM

Recently,Firefox started crashing whenever opening some specific websites (GamingW,for example),so i had to switch to Opera.

Still crashes after updating,disabled all plugins,flash player,etc. but still doesn't work.

Opera is pretty good,but it's widgets are nowhere near as good as firefox plugins,and it runs faster than firefox,although it does use more ram

Leon Belmont · October 22, 2007, 04:33:47 PM

Yeah, that's something weird too. Opera uses about 80,000-120,000 memory, and Firefox around 40,000-60,000 most of the time. But thing is Opera seems to be faster. Which why is apparently a complete mystery to me.

I like both, and use both though, so I'm not complaining either way. I just use one or the other depending on which sites won't work properly on the respective browsers.

Valodim · October 22, 2007, 06:48:45 PM

Quote from: Siu Wong on October 22, 2007, 04:33:47 PM
Yeah, that's something weird too. Opera uses about 80,000-120,000 memory, and Firefox around 40,000-60,000 most of the time. But thing is Opera seems to be faster. Which why is apparently a complete mystery to me.

...completely different rendering engine?

Quote from: K.O.D on October 22, 2007, 03:38:23 PM
Opera is pretty good,but it's widgets are nowhere near as good as firefox plugins,and it runs faster than firefox,although it does use more ram

Widgets are completely useless, yes. However, most of the stuff people use as extensions in FF is already in Opera, and Opera is compatible to FF plugins, and Greasemonkey scripts.

From a developer perspective, (imvho) Opera has better to work with w3c compliance and does not unnecessarily nag about some errors like FF does (for example, in FF a XMLHttpRequest fails if the header data returns "text/html" instead of "text/xml" as content-type... duh.

), however Firebug is great and the Opera Dev Tools are seriously lacking (yet).

But they are both good, it's mostly a matter of taste nowadays.