Most irritating bug/virus in Fighter Factory

[Overweapon: Scythe]

I think I went over this before but...
So far, there's two virus issues or whatnot in Fighter Factory that I can't
stand. First one, managable: Importing commands/combos etc. It USED to
do it, but not anymore, however, I do it manually now..

but here's the WORST part! 2nd: Sound file auto-corruption!
All I do is go through the constants of my character(s), and save, import
sound files, etc, at first all was working, but go back to the constants and
change a few things, then all of a damn sudden, I just find out that the
crooked system had automaticly corruped my character's sound file pack
and will do every attempt it can to NEVER run them anymore!


This has been a pest to me over trillions of times now, and I'm starting to
hate it! Luckily I still have an old crap soundpack compared to all that god
damn hard f**king work I done on the new one and it still works, like a load
of trash that makes all the updates look horrible... No
...and it JUST had to happen all over again for the 5th time at a very
terrible moment when I don't need that crap at this point...

this is starting to piss me off. I don't want to go all over those damn imports
again! I'll have to go all over the place to find 627 of them!! This always
happens when I add something new to the CNS for some stupid f**king
pointless reason and it's starting to piss me off! SOME of those sounds aren't
even available anymore, to worsen it!

[Leon Belmont]

Use notepad for coding.

[Bastard Mami]

ff 

never save all the character, just save the individual file you are working on, personally I only use ff for sprites, sounds and maybe clsns.

[Cybaster]

Use notepad++ for coding.

[Jesuszilla]

I've never had a problem with FF and .snd files.

[Overweapon: Scythe]

Freaky...
I found out that it was due to a import of one in my 5011 point
(Attack hit sound set) effects... I cleared most of it back to 16/
28 as before recent imports and everything started working again,
so I carefully re-added some of the new ones, and it's still working...

but how is it possible that it crashes like that on just me? Another
member here just said: "didn't happen to me." , which is strange...

Well, for just-in-case, is there any other program relative to Fighter
Factory that allows creation of Mugen characters/stages/system pack/
etc?

[Bastard Mami]

I bugs on my air files because I use tabs and multiple lines with comments as well as empty lines.

[Cyanide]

MCM + notepad?

MEE?

I hate MCM for the air file and MEE is a long process but at least it works properly.

MCM has a sound editing function that works. MEE has SNDsgood inside it which used to function for me but now doesn't. FF's real problem is it lets you do things it shouldn't. I fucked up my sound file one using it's volume increase function. That assholed all my sounds.

[BC]

I fucked up my sound file one using it's volume increase function. That assholed all my sounds.

there is a backup button

[Cyanide]

Yeah, i know that. But how are you supposed to know when using a function is going to break things. I didn't have that many sounds at the time so i wasn't really bothered but it did let me know not to use it again. If the function that breaks things isn't there in the first place then you wouldn't stuff them up would you?

[BC]

If the function that breaks things isn't there in the first place then you wouldn't stuff them up would you?

nope,  but i just make sure i back up my files when loading up my character so if i did stuff or corrupt any files i have the backups....but yea would be nice if everything worked as it should in FF...... too much hassle otherwise

[XGargoyle]

bug != virus

[BC]

bug != virus

bug != influenza

bug = insect

bug = volkswagen beetle

bug = glitch

but definatly != virus 




EDIT:       i wonder how that ! suddenly appeared

[XGargoyle]

Failed.

Influenza is actually a virus.

[vyn]

i dont get how people have so many problems with ff, ive never ever had a problem with it and its like 2 years ive been using it, most of the problems i see are cause peeps dont understand how pallettes, .def files, .cns, .air ,.cmd or .snd files truly work and blame ff when they crash mugen but they usually find how to fix the problems by doing things right

cy problem looks authenic tough

[Cyanide]

i dont get how people have so many problems with ff, ive never ever had a problem with it and its like 2 years ive been using it, most of the problems i see are cause peeps dont understand how pallettes, .def files, .cns, .air ,.cmd or .snd files truly work and blame ff when they crash mugen but they usually find how to fix the problems by doing things right

cy problem looks authenic tough

Well yes. Thats kinda my whole point of telling people not to use the shortcuts. They don't really understand what the shortcut is supposed to do and make a mess trying to use it improperly. Hell any time i've WANTED to make use of something in FF that's like that i figure out what it needs to work properly first. I don't use it on anything i plan to put into mugen, just copied images so i can play with it.

Had to go in and edit some of the predefined sctrls as well. Hitdef has broken parameters and i hate having loads of commented out stuff strung through it. Changed it so the most used stuff is uncommented, and all the commented stuff is in a big group at the end so i can easily delete what i don't need. I need to add the extra lines to the projectile control too.

[vyn]

i could use a copy of ur modified ff when u are done there man, its indeed kinda annoying to delete comments tough these days i just copy paste my own code and edit from there heh but still

[Cyanide]

I think they're just in a folder within FF. You can open them with notepad, change them and save. Nothing major or requiring any great knowledge.

[vyn]

I think they're just in a folder within FF. You can open them with notepad, change them and save. Nothing major or requiring any great knowledge.

ya i have a couple of sctrls of my own there too but u got better coding knowledge than me, ive found some stuff that doesnt fit in hitdefs and helpers, a couple of others too i think but urs is probably better cropped

[FerchogtX]

Well... as far as I've used FF, the only bugs it showed to me are that , if I load 4 (somewhat heavy) characters, it says that I don't have enogh memory tu run the program (512 MB of RAM is not enough? O_o) Anyway I can still using it by clicking OK.
Other is that if I save the whole char, and I attempt to close the program, sometimes gives an exception error, and I have to restart the program, because if you continue opening chars, the pallettes are f***ed up.

Besides this, is weird, but I don't have any problems with FF... maybe depends on some extra stuff I did, for example, for avoiding reinstralling it after formating my HD, I just made a backup of the folder that contains the program, placed in the Program Files folder, and vuala! FF instantly XD I guess that it could have issues with registry entri values... who knows...

I guess that is better to stick with MCM + Notepad ++ if you experience problems with FF, slower but safer.

See ya!!!