Cyber Shredder by HJR...(very VERY Beta)

[Burguertime]

Long time lurking in this site since 2004... I Guess it`s about time to give something back to the comunity...

In my teens ( about 1990 ) I liked very much Ninja Turtles Tournament Fighters for the SNES, needless to say, my favorite character was and still is Cyber Shredder...

In the other hand, I hate ultra cheapo, god, orochi, omega, evil, cyber, raging, violent versions of characters in mugen, they take away all the fun, unless they are designed to be funny ( Rare Akuma, the best example)...

So my first character is a very standard, non orochi cyber shredder, using sprites from SNES and other cyber shredders I found in Snips.com, programmed with the standard templates supplied with Mugen Fighter Factory
 
Things that will be implemented in the future ...

- Parry
- Projectile Deflection/Rebound, his trademark move in tournament fighters, this is a must...
- Just Defend
- Shin gouki`s ansatsu ( murderous intention) styled special, with the foot clan logo as a background if the   
  move makes a KO
- Any good sugestion that you people make, provided you give me hints about coding such sugestion...

well this is the link... http://www.esnips.com/doc/56260efb-06c5-4cc0-8ecc-5ccd517df202/shredder
go ahead, download, test, and tell me if I should keep goin on...

I guess I have too keep the tradition, so here we have the screenshots...

[Hadoabuser]

His sprites are animated nicely, no misalignments or gaps. He is very solid beta, my only complaint is there is no Readme file.

[Not Muggins]

Didn't the DarkMasterS create Cyber Shredder already?

In the other hand, I hate ultra cheapo, god, orochi, omega, evil, cyber, raging, violent versions of characters in mugen, they take away all the fun, unless they are designed to be funny ( Rare Akuma, the best example)...

You forgot one version, Psycho.

[Burguertime]

Didn't the DarkMasterS create Cyber Shredder already?

I Didn´t know this... as I told in the Fisrt post, I found some shredders in Snips.com, so I ripped the SFF´s as if there were no future, and coding I did, about  4 weeks, I guess that for a first char, with so little time, it is going pretty well...BTW if the original owners of all those shredders warehoused in snips.com think I shouldn´t go on, so I´ll do, in the other hand I make my shredder open source, do whatever you want with him...

His sprites are animated nicely, no misalignments or gaps. He is very solid beta, my only complaint is there is no Readme file.

Thanks a lot for the compliments, believe me.. coding I see this like an easy task, bust spriting, axis alignment, and palletes, those gave me the nightmares... thanks be given to virtualltek, fighter factory made me think I could do it...About Readme, I´ll make one in the next update, sorry for not making one in this release

[Hadoabuser]

Thanks a lot for the compliments, believe me.. coding I see this like an easy task, bust spriting, axis alignment, and palletes, those gave me the nightmares... thanks be given to virtualltek, fighter factory made me think I could do it...About Readme, I´ll make one in the next update, sorry for not making one in this release

Yea I feel the same way about FF, and the Readme isnt a prob, just wanted to make sure u got ur credit.

[Luigi Master]

Shredder fighting White Len...he has no FUCKING chance.  LOL MELTY BLOOD is the legal version of Street Fighter 2:  Rainbow Edition.

As an unimportant MFG member, I hereby say that all Melty Blood characters should be labeled as "LOL MELTY BLOOD".

[Burguertime]

Shredder fighting White Len...he has no FUCKING chance.

you`re right on that, the very second I turned on th A.I. for the screenshot grabbing session, she whooped my ass really good, then handed it back to me..., Only Ayu tukimiya can fight on equal grounds against this little gothic loli monster...

well...

a lot of things are still missing, grab/throw animations ( even with tutorials I can`t code them right)
parry... I`m trying two different aproachs, one is using hit override ( byakko`s kagami kyosuke), the other is move reversal ( hikari reiko syle I think...), after testing I will use the eaiest to code, the less bugs the better...

about bugs, please people tell me all and every one you find, I think this this the best way to learn...

positive comments are wellcome, but bug reports are blessed... 

[JozoTheBoogey]

Finaly a balanced version of Shredder. I got sick of Psycho Shredder, I could kill Evil Ken & Evil Ryu with him, it got boring, lol

[Skank88]

What??? A beta? Really? 

For a beta this char is really nice! Nice gameplay and sprites are nicely animated!
Keep up the good work! 

[fer619]

looks promising. i'm looking forward to it.

[Burguertime]

Finaly a balanced version of Shredder. I got sick of Psycho Shredder, I could kill Evil Ken & Evil Ryu with him, it got boring, lol

Yep, I felt the same thing, psycho shredder is so powerfull that he´s not even boring, so balanced gameplay is my motto, I´m trying to make a char with all the standard set: parry, projectile deflection/rebound/absorb, Just defend, short invulnerability in important anim frames, all that in order to make some nasty surprises against cheesy players, and being able to make a fair fight against chars like raging ken, or even Nero Chaos from Melty Blood maybe...

As I can see response has been very positive from you guys, thanks a lot. Also be patient with me, maybe in a pair of months I`ll make an important update, you know... work and real life get in the way

What??? A beta? Really?  Shocked

A beta indeed, IMO he`s about 25% maybe 30% complete, after all the basics are set ( grabs, throws, pal FX, sounds and the such), I`ll become obsessed with fine tuning and gameplay enhancements...

For a beta this char is really nice! Nice gameplay and sprites are nicely animated!

The first time I attempted to use screen rips with Zsnes, very tedious, then after a little search in google I found snips.com, so the job was made a lot easier, but some little frankenspriting has to be done, the projectile animation for example, using guile´s sonic boom as an inspiration, BTW the projectile is ugly in my opinion, should be changed soon, what about using Thouther`s nanto baku zen ha ( a X shaped energy slash), such a projectile could fit more in shredder`s stile of fighting, frankenspriting can´t be avoided, just have to be done right...

[Not Muggins]

You should make an anti-cheap mode. Complete with AI.

[Burguertime]

Some updates, nothing important, more palletes, his original pallete from SNES is so gay I couldn´t stand it, projectile animchange, the first projectile is simply awful, had to change it, the link...

http://www.esnips.com/web/BaikensStuff/

[BigBoss]

Psycho Shredder clone?

[Burguertime]

Psycho Shredder clone?

no way, i just got sick of those cheapo shredders, so i´m trying to make a balanced one, balanced, not weak, high defensive rating, slow speed, but specials designed toward cheesy players, I´m just starting, I´m still learnig to code properly, be patient, download, test review code and tell me how things could be better

[bloodriotiori]

Shredder fighting White Len...he has no FUCKING chance.  LOL MELTY BLOOD is the legal version of Street Fighter 2:  Rainbow Edition.

As an unimportant MFG member, I hereby say that all Melty Blood characters should be labeled as "LOL MELTY BLOOD".

haha i agree with your tiny words

i hate melty blood characters lol, i'm never impressed when someone does a 25 hit combo with them because they lack juggle points heh.

They're just broken poo imo

On a topic note, i'd REALLY like to see a balanced Shredder if you need any coding help don't hesitate to ask me, i'll help in any way i can

[Luigi Master]

Hey, thanks BRI.

Anyway, some feedback:

-Might wanna reduce hitpause on his attacks, cause he's REALLY slow.
-Make more versions of his specials.
-Fix his KO animation.  He looks like he's standing.

[Burguertime]

1-Might wanna reduce hitpause on his attacks, cause he's REALLY slow.
2-Make more versions of his specials.
3-Fix his KO animation.  He looks like he's standing.

1 I like Slow Characters, they likes of zangief or kira, they give and take mucho damage, but I`ll fix the hit pause in future updates
2 Yep, Sure, QCF + weak punch launches a raijin, Medium punch will throw Missiles, I plan to use explosion area, so the missile could damage even shredder, I see many double ko`s in the future, about QCF + Heavy punch I`m not sure yet...
3 It seems I have all the required sprites, but axis alignment, and animchange, I quite can´t grab them right, please understand this is my first char, so be patient...

in any case, thanks for the feedback, also look for clsn misalignments, possible infinites and the such...

BTW, did I mention that you can use this shredder too?, go ahead, do whatever you want with him...

[Luigi Master]

Thanks, I realize this is your first character, I was just pointing out some things.

[DarkMasterS]

Didn't the DarkMasterS create Cyber Shredder already?

I Didn´t know this... as I told in the Fisrt post, I found some shredders in Snips.com, so I ripped the SFF´s as if there were no future, and coding I did, about  4 weeks, I guess that for a first char, with so little time, it is going pretty well...BTW if the original owners of all those shredders warehoused in snips.com think I shouldn´t go on, so I´ll do, in the other hand I make my shredder open source, do whatever you want with him...

His sprites are animated nicely, no misalignments or gaps. He is very solid beta, my only complaint is there is no Readme file.

Thanks a lot for the compliments, believe me.. coding I see this like an easy task, bust spriting, axis alignment, and palletes, those gave me the nightmares... thanks be given to virtualltek, fighter factory made me think I could do it...About Readme, I´ll make one in the next update, sorry for not making one in this release

We prefer that you not used the sprite which you have rip from the SFF. Some of those sprite are custom made by us and it is what make it unique from the original SNES version or any other version.