Vice 2k2 + extra

[Cyanide]

Ok, so this is about 1/4 of the way there right now. In general this will be an accurate 2k2 vice. Uses the 2k2 sprites and sounds. Moves and commands will be the same. Aside from the super FX, cos i like 2k3's FX will be 2k2 as well. Although transparency shall be added, occasionally.

Many screenies below. Actually, i wanted to announce this with a vid, but until i work out what settings my PC is happy with, we'll leave that out.




Currently done to a point

All basic attacks
All special attacks
All DM's
All SDM's

Still to go
Accurate hitdefs, that means everything.
Accurate damage for the throws
Taunt
More max mode stuff, it activates, and counts down at the right speed, but i haven't yet done what it allows you to do. Special cancels and shit. Not that they're overly useful in vice. Most of her cancels cause knockdown anyway.
Erm, sound fixes
Ground level recovery

However, that's only half of it. I also want to include a second mode for her. Which will be Orochi. No, not the flashy sparks stupid floaty pose overkill damage etc etc gag me.

Going for more in the style of the new face teams forms. More powerful certainly, but not stupidly overpowered. Current ideas

Loses mayhem and blackend. Loses De-cide.
Gorefest gains Mithans Robe followup. Command is blackend (probably, just floating ideas right now)
Keeps the slash kicks.
New stuff
De-vice, thats the anti air De-cide from CvS, going to add that in, just have to make the sprites for it.
Debating this one. Using matures projectile anim, but, acts more like K9999's dp+punch attack. No range, just invuln and anti close range. Probably replacing the mayhem command. Will also block projectiles.
Geno-Cide, Vice does the first 2 hits of Matures QCB+P combo and ends with De-cide.
Withering surface becomes a 1 power bomb, gorefest, mithans robe combo, SDM adds a powerbomb, and does the flippy thing from the original SDM version. Trying to think of a name that doesn't sound too cheesy. Atm it's Corrupt Plains, which is extending the withering surface name, possibly too far  
Negative Gain becomes God press/heavens gate/Deaths gate, still shit names... Sdm does the red explosion ala mature.
HSDM, Ok, so this was ALWAYS going to be like Freeman in garou, walking reversal, if hit, screen goes dark and you see vice kicking the crap outta p2 in sillohuete. Sadly 2k2UM stole that from me, so i'm going to do it anyway, cos i came up with it and like it. Even if they are theiving bastards who read my mind for that attack.

The whole thing uses her 98 stance, and i plan to swap a couple of her standard moves and poses out with matures, or more evil looking positions.

For those of you waiting on whip (yeah, all 8 of you) she's not cancelled and will be picked up again when i'm done with this. There's not actually that much left on her, but what is left currently annoys me. Damn you fwd+A why must you be so difficult.

[BigBoss]

*Creams*

I has love for vice.


Anyways good luck and i can't wait

[Anjel]

Dunno if you are aiming for everything accurate, but the lifebars do not disappear when using supers

Also, use Snagit, you basically don't even need to set any settings.

[Rajaa Retired]

Dunno if you are aiming for everything accurate, but the lifebars do not disappear when using supers

he's probably just using "assertspecials" for more clear pictures.

Use cvs hitsparks, that way you'll be mentioned 


An extra mode? will it be triggered via pallet? or during the fight? either way it sounds interesting to have an extra mode in Vice where your only option isn't to jump over projectiles by projectile fiends.

i look forward to testing the new stuff you add to her

[Anjel]

Dunno if you are aiming for everything accurate, but the lifebars do not disappear when using supers

he's probably just using "assertspecials"

No Shit.

Are you talking about CvS or CvS2? CvS is ugly, CvS2 is overused (by me).

[Cyanide]

Err no, i've hit ctrl+L and turned them off. See i have some unreleased lifebars in my current mugen that look neat. However, they're technically not mine and i REALLY don't want to field any requests for them. To avoid this, they're not in the screenies.

Extra mode will be pallete triggered, just like in 2k2. Holding start = orochi. No in game transformations.

Anjel, i made a sarcastic comment on MI about CvS2 sparks in a popularity contest thread. That was a joke 

[Anjel]

I don't go to MI.

[Rajaa Retired]

I never knew ctrl+L did that. 

I don't go to MI.

Go check out MUGEN discussion There. You might throw up.

[BC]

hello, super Fx look cool, once you get the desired settings for the vid then that should be a treat.

i often wondered, when people like yourself say that the character will be accurate, accurate hitdefs, velocities ect
is there an application or something that you run when playing the actual rom to view values of damage &  velocities?

or is it just guess work..

always wondered.

[Bastard Mami]

I would rather have kof98 style hitdefs for the weak kicks/punches, but that's only me.

[Thedge]

Can you add a normal mode?... i mean, no max2mode and stuff, "'01 mode without strikers", via config or something...

See you.

[Cyanide]

You mean, something that doesn't require you to be in MAX to do the SDM/HSDM?

I can do that. Was planning to do a config.txt anyway so you could pick whether you wanted perma orochi and make use of all the palletes in that mode or perma normal or the default which will be start+select for the alt mode. Not too hard to add an extra var that allows the SDM/HSDM without including max mode for them.

[Elix]

Great stuff. Maestro at work. My friend will be so happy, he's a fan of Vice.
Have fun working on her. You don't need luck.

[Cyanide]

After much swearing as to the velocity for the knee drop in overkill, that's done. Aside from a random wierd bug that i can't frigging predict or duplicate on purpose.

Kills targetbind somehow.

Now for the severely slow process of turning mature's head into vice. While keeping correct axis. They don't share that many poses. And vice's head changes style a lot between the new stuff for 98 and the older stuff for 96.

Thankfully the main diff is hair. Eye's once attached to new hair look about the same.

[walt]

I'm imageblind right now. Do you already have some sprites planned out for her Orochi Stance?
If so, please describe them so we can help you with some ideas.

[swipergod]

I don't mean to sound like a poop, but doesn't Gorefest have Vice grabbing the opponent and running them face down along the ground (scraping their face as she runs).  I know she did in '98 anyway.  Just noticed in the picture that Terry was face up.  I know a few Mugen Vices that've missed that detail so I just thought I'd point it out.  Cheers.

[Cyanide]

I'm using her 98 stance for orochi. 2k2 stance for normal. The 96 sprites are a bit icky in comparison. I'm not fantastic when it comes to editing, i tend to get bored. If anyone comes up with something that they're willing to edit the whole of and swap in instead of an attack i have already please let me know. Currently working with what i can pull from mature.

Yeah, i know he's face up. I would have done face down, like the game, but it would look seriously wierd with some of the default mugen hitsprites.

Not everyone has the right face down stuff so it's better to have a good looking attack rather than something where their feet/bodies seem to drop through the floor because you're using ground bounce. Required sprites can be a pain when there aren't enough.

[LaQuak]

well I've already said that this is a healthy wip and I am looking forward to it and whip still. I see what you mean about that extra mode so I guess my pmed move idea wont be that applicable for your Vice. Still up in the air though haha. Can't wait.

[Rote Zaungast]

screw compatibility
*gorefests uncompatible sprites*

[Cybaster]

This Vice with extra stuff looks very promising. Good luck with her.