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Started by OHMSBY, August 09, 2020, 05:26:17 am
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Which Ganondorf would you Prefer?

Ocarina of Time
23 (56.1%)
Tears of the Kingdom
18 (43.9%)

Total Members Voted: 41

Voting closed: October 21, 2023, 06:22:52 am

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Ichika Nakamasa

Re: [OHMSBY Thread]: 10 characters updated with AI scaling (10/09/23)
#1381  October 11, 2023, 08:03:24 pm
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So I just found out that Susanoo's Inevitable Calamity could deal a significant amount of damage on boss characters with just one attempt while Vlov's Mania, Scorching Heat/Depths, Northern Sea dealt even less damage on them. I guess it's a bug regarding Susanoo's damage dampener as he shouldn't be allowed to do such a lot of damage for a special like this.

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Re: [OHMSBY Thread]: 10 characters updated with AI scaling (10/09/23)
#1382  October 12, 2023, 06:42:09 am
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Solid Snivy said, October 11, 2023, 07:38:00 am
Personally I’d love to see how you would handle ToTK Ganondorf later down the line. Even if you were to make him as like an EX character to OoT, though I guess he’d have enough to stand out as his own.

I do have different Ideas on how each 'Dorf is going to play, so regardless of who wins the poll, I will probably get to the other one sometime afterward.

Solid Snivy said, October 11, 2023, 07:38:00 am
Curious about Joker though. Would he play somewhat similar to the other Arena characters, or have a different mechanic entirely to stand out?

He'll will play similarly to the other P4A characters.

Ichika Nakamasa said, October 11, 2023, 08:03:24 pm
So I just found out that Susanoo's Inevitable Calamity could deal a significant amount of damage on boss characters with just one attempt while Vlov's Mania, Scorching Heat/Depths, Northern Sea dealt even less damage on them. I guess it's a bug regarding Susanoo's damage dampener as he shouldn't be allowed to do such a lot of damage for a special like this.

So the way Inevitable Calamity works is that it triggers the damage scaling on each hit to gradually reduce the damage output during prolonged use, where as Mania only triggers it once and keeps a fixed damage output throughout. When using Inevitable Calamity on bosses and other super armored characters, the damage scaling is constantly being reset due to how super armor works, causing every hit to deal the maximum amount of damage.

I've reuploaded Susano'o with a quick fix that prevents the damage scaling from reseting as long as he's still using Inevitable Calamity, so go ahead and redownload him.

JoeStarX

Re: [OHMSBY Thread]: 10 characters updated with AI scaling (10/09/23)
#1383  October 12, 2023, 09:15:06 pm
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OMG 10 characters thank you so much!!

jacky28

Re: [OHMSBY Thread]: 10 characters updated with AI scaling (10/09/23)
#1384  October 14, 2023, 04:30:44 pm
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JoeStarX

Re: [OHMSBY Thread]: 10 characters updated with AI scaling (10/09/23)
#1385  October 17, 2023, 02:11:19 am
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Hey OHMSBY really enjoying the AI scaling on the characters but Waldstein is brutal he counters all of my moves even on the easiest difficulty perhaps it is just a skill issue

also Wagner for some reason I can only use her heavy attacks nothing seems to work thank you for all your efforts

JolarValenflower

Re: [OHMSBY Thread]: 10 characters updated with AI scaling (10/09/23)
#1386  October 20, 2023, 06:17:51 am
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Why is not Video released Joker Persona 5
Later 2 mouth is released
Is soon or delayed

ArcBeast

Re: [OHMSBY Thread]: 10 characters updated with AI scaling (10/09/23)
#1387  October 20, 2023, 06:30:37 am
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Solid Snivy

Re: [OHMSBY Thread]: 10 characters updated with AI scaling (10/09/23)
#1388  October 20, 2023, 09:57:48 am
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If I'm remembering right, OHMSBY said that he wanted to spend more of his free time doing other things that weren't related to MUGEN, so that's why the character releases (starting with Powered CIel) have been so spaced out (which is fine; dude's got life outside of making content for this game).
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Last Edit: October 21, 2023, 02:42:56 am by Solid Snivy

TornilloOxidado

Re: [OHMSBY Thread]: 10 characters updated with AI scaling (10/09/23)
#1389  October 21, 2023, 01:26:50 am
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Dude01

Re: [OHMSBY Thread]: 10 characters updated with AI scaling (10/09/23)
#1390  October 21, 2023, 10:32:20 am
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Misana1598

Re: [OHMSBY Thread]: 10 characters updated with AI scaling (10/09/23)
#1391  October 29, 2023, 01:10:56 am
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With the upcoming release of Joker from Persona 5, can I suggest an intro between him and Kirito? I have access to official dialogue from Kirito (JP) (also Joker but JP) from the Persona 5 Collab from Sword Art Online: Memory Defrag and would love to see it added.

JolarValenflower

Re: [OHMSBY Thread]: 10 characters updated with AI scaling (10/09/23)
#1392  October 29, 2023, 07:29:50 am
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Joker video released is Back!!!

OHMSBY

Re: [OHMSBY Thread]: Joker Released (10/31/23)
#1393  November 01, 2023, 03:32:23 am
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ZolidSone

Re: [OHMSBY Thread]: Joker Released (10/31/23)
#1394  November 01, 2023, 05:41:59 am
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I actually found two small errors on Joker that completely slipped:
-The opponent's get hit on the forward/backwards throw will get misaligned for 1 tick on the when P2 does it.
-If you perform 2B again right when Arsene disappears, it's possible he won't come out to perform it a 2nd time.

The 1st one is so easy to miss because it never happens when P1 plays as Joker while the latter doesn't happen too often and merely just delays him for just a few seconds. Most of the time Arsene will, but there's a small chance he might not.
I will still do detail and aesthetic feedback for the rest.

OHMSBY

Re: [OHMSBY Thread]: Joker Released (10/31/23)
#1395  November 01, 2023, 06:12:47 am
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Both of those should be fixed now.

ZolidSone

Re: [OHMSBY Thread]: Joker Released (10/31/23)
#1396  November 01, 2023, 09:12:36 am
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Checked it again and now it affected P1:

Usually the custom state on the opponent should be the same for both sides. So I have no clue why it got altered for the other side when it shouldn't.

Since I literally have nothing else left on Joker and didn't get the chance to talk about Ganondorf a few weeks ago when the topic was relevant, I'm very curious how you'll tackle his ToTK counterpart since he's not based on a fighting game. But I personally think OoT should come first because he already has a moveset to base on from SSBU.
I will still do detail and aesthetic feedback for the rest.
Last Edit: November 01, 2023, 09:20:01 am by ZolidSone

Misana1598

Re: [OHMSBY Thread]: Joker Released (10/31/23)
#1397  November 01, 2023, 07:42:55 pm
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Re: [OHMSBY Thread]: Joker Released (10/31/23)
#1398  November 01, 2023, 09:12:11 pm
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ZolidSone said, November 01, 2023, 09:12:36 am
Checked it again and now it affected P1:

Usually the custom state on the opponent should be the same for both sides. So I have no clue why it got altered for the other side when it shouldn't.

Since I literally have nothing else left on Joker and didn't get the chance to talk about Ganondorf a few weeks ago when the topic was relevant, I'm very curious how you'll tackle his ToTK counterpart since he's not based on a fighting game. But I personally think OoT should come first because he already has a moveset to base on from SSBU.

I think he's going to do Bandana Waddle Dee as an experiment for making characters not based on a fighting game (or at least, officially). As such, we'll see what he'll do with Ganondorf by then. Oh, and I should mention he really should make some new sprites for Kirby since the D4 sprites look really, really out of place with the newer ones.

Solid Snivy

Re: [OHMSBY Thread]: Joker Released (10/31/23)
#1399  November 01, 2023, 10:57:29 pm
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I'm pretty stoked to see how Waddle Dee is gonna play out, cause I do imagine that he'll mainly be taking cues from Star Allies and Forgotten Land.
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Mr. Nobody

Re: [OHMSBY Thread]: Joker Released (10/31/23)
#1400  November 02, 2023, 12:07:13 am
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Considering you are making Waddle Dee will this also maybe mean that other Persona 5 characters could be possible?
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