#1
Posted by i_oVo_i
in Celebrating 25 years working with MUGEN! (Started by O Ilusionista December 17, 2024, 10:17:40 pmBoard: Your Releases, 1.0+
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Posted by i_oVo_i
in Celebrating 25 years working with MUGEN! (Started by O Ilusionista December 17, 2024, 10:17:40 pmBoard: Your Releases, 1.0+
#2
Posted by Dai-Manji
in Why auto-ai exists? (Started by snowy997 December 21, 2024, 12:09:09 amBoard: Off-Topic Help
Something that pisses me off is that in some characters (especially those made by japanese creators), there is a stupid auto-ai that prevents me from playing the character. I want to know, what's the purpose of this? What's the point of creating a whole character if you can't even play it? I understand that being done to boss characters, but still. Is the AI so strong it overtakes the player? I don't understand.
As someone who actively collects brutal and cheap AI characters, the thing to understand is that a lot of Japanese (and especially Chinese) creators focus more on the technicals of MUGEN, rather than the playability of characters.
This is often why there are entire channels which do nothing but showcase the destruction these characters can do. Keep in mind, these creators are known for their AI in most cases, and take a lot of pride in finding ways to optimize their characters to be as perfect as they can be.
The tournament scene on that side of the community is wild, especially when it comes to cheapie characters. At the end of the day, AUTO-AI mainly exists because the people that use it, are not creating characters with the goal of them being played, but instead to showcase their technical prowess and understanding of game mechanics and how to exploit them.
Prime examples of this are creations by Kotori, KEYSER, Phoenix Kaiser, 1zjxx, and others. These creators are known for their absolutely devastating AI, often outright breaking the game engine in order to win against other characters which you and I would normally lose against.
That said, most of them can have the AI turned off via a CONFIG file, but then there will be no button inputs coded for the character.
#3
Posted by Yagoshi300
in Kartara (The Passing) released New Kychiel (Started by Yagoshi300 December 21, 2024, 10:56:53 amBoard: Found Releases 1.0+
Welp, an unfinished Beta was leaked while a certain MUGEN character seller who's obsessed with clowns and Oswald sprite edits decided to do more 5h17 (AKA doing this char's 2nd Climax DM by themself).
Aaaaaaanyways...
Preview:
Download:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/nbvatu5dnn82uo9/Kychiel%2528Release%2529.rar/file
#4
Posted by Duos.act
in Why auto-ai exists? (Started by snowy997 December 21, 2024, 12:09:09 amBoard: Off-Topic Help
I heard another reason Auto A.I. is generally a thing some creators do, because of AI tournaments. I heard a large chunk of Japanese creators take AI tournaments very seriously, and I can only assume tournament participating characters have Auto A.I. solely on to make sure they don't sandbag and lose the tournament. I assume those creators simply choose to take the Auto route instead of more complicated simultaneous Hard A.I. and human player systems.
Yeah, this is correct.
AI tournaments are very popular with the Japanese community. As I said earlier, some creators have config files that let you adjust the AI level, toggle AI only/human control and similar settings. If you're familiar with Holn, his AI patches go the extra mile of letting you set frequencies for specific mechanics that a character might have. For example, some of his Versus Series patches will perform touch of death or infinite combos if enabled.
If you download an AI patch and find it isn't to your liking for whatever reason, I suggest checking if there are any option or config files, you might be able to tweak it a little bit.
#5
Posted by MR. IBZS II
in Why auto-ai exists? (Started by snowy997 December 21, 2024, 12:09:09 amBoard: Off-Topic Help
#6
Posted by beterhans
in Why auto-ai exists? (Started by snowy997 December 21, 2024, 12:09:09 amBoard: Off-Topic Help
Something that pisses me off is that in some characters (especially those made by japanese creators), there is a stupid auto-ai that prevents me from playing the character. I want to know, what's the purpose of this? What's the point of creating a whole character if you can't even play it? I understand that being done to boss characters, but still. Is the AI so strong it overtakes the player? I don't understand.
There are multiple factors that cause this. As far as I understand, as a character author myself, I can try to explain my perspective.
1 Instead of creating a character to meet boss or market demand and exchange it for money, MUGEN characters are not something you can profit from even somebody willing to pay, its not enough to pay you bills. So why create them?
The only reason an author would put time and effort to exchange nothing, is to entertain themself. The author may not be a skilled player, but they can program AI to fight for them, and this has a lot of advantages. It’s like coding your own Pokémon and battling another author’s Pokémon.
2 Old versions of MUGEN don’t have a way to tell if a character is being controlled by a human or by AI. What does this mean?
If you're a coder, you write:
If human control => I do nothing
If AI control => I do something (like attacking when the opponent is near or far)
But in older versions of MUGEN, there’s no way to tell whether the character is controlled by a human or AI. The workaround to detect whether the character should be controlled by AI took time to activate. So, if you use the workaround that allows both human and AI control, there will be a delay in activating the AI, and the character might lose the round. To avoid this, authors may hard-code the AI to always be on, ensuring there’s no delay and less chance of losing a round.
imagine you put 6 month or years in your own character, only to see he or she is beaten by other player or other character. you won't like the feeling if you are not mentally prepared.
3 Many people still use older versions of MUGEN. Newer versions, like MUGEN 1.0, 1.1, or IKEMEN, officially have a way to determine if a character should be controlled by a human or AI. However, many authors still code in the old way and don’t use the new AILevel feature. This could be because they want backward compatibility or have other reasons.
#7
Posted by Fauxcry
in Lasombra's Releases - all in one place (Started by Lasombra Demon July 30, 2021, 09:27:39 pmBoard: IKEMEN Releases
#8
Posted by Ogre.
in MUGEN Video thread (Started by c001357 September 27, 2008, 11:24:14 amBoard: M.U.G.E.N Discussion
#9
Posted by Funk
in Cave Story Theatre (Started by ShiroTori December 21, 2024, 12:42:33 amBoard: Your Releases, 1.0+
#10
Posted by ShiroTori
in Cave Story Theatre (Started by ShiroTori December 21, 2024, 12:42:33 amBoard: Your Releases, 1.0+
Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h6KdDRuY8esPlUpZYq5wTTMwrR6WfhWP/view?usp=sharing
We hope you enjoy!
Sprite work by Mark Apilado, aka ScepterDPinoy
#11
Posted by Duos.act
in Why auto-ai exists? (Started by snowy997 December 21, 2024, 12:09:09 amBoard: Off-Topic Help
#12
Posted by snowy997
in Why auto-ai exists? (Started by snowy997 December 21, 2024, 12:09:09 amBoard: Off-Topic Help
#13
Posted by franqiho
in Kof 2003 Portrait project (Started by Melcore March 11, 2014, 09:11:14 amBoard: Sprite Projects
Could anyone improve this portrait of Goku style KOF 2003? I tried to do it here but I don't know much
https://i.postimg.cc/VvgprmRT/56666.png
KOF 2003 - goku v1
#14
Posted by Croix12
in Noonan's Bar Stage 1.1 & 1.0 (Started by MatreroG December 20, 2024, 08:15:15 pmBoard: Your Releases, 1.0+
Re: Character of the Month: November 2024 Voting
December 20, 2024, 09:09:52 pm View in topic context#15
Posted by WF4123
in Character of the Month: November 2024 Voting (Started by Lyrica December 19, 2024, 07:21:54 pmBoard: M.U.G.E.N Discussion
#16
Posted by MatreroG
in Noonan's Bar Stage 1.1 & 1.0 (Started by MatreroG December 20, 2024, 08:15:15 pmBoard: Your Releases, 1.0+
The stage has moderate jump, animation, looped BGM, 1.1 (with zoom & no zoom) and 1.0 option files.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
STAGE DOWNLOAD
https://www.mediafire.com/file/7chpkixr3qlp9q6/Noonan%2527sBar_Stage1.1%25261.0.rar/file
#17
Posted by snowy997
in New Virtua Fighter Project Announced (Started by GTOAkira December 13, 2024, 04:12:40 amBoard: Fighting Games
please no
I think a story mode would betray the spirit of Virtua Fighter
uh... the thing i hate the most in VF is the abscence of a story mode/endings, i beat VF5 in a few minuted and aftwr that there was nothing else to do, i hate the fact that there are no endings, there is no incentive to play it in single-player, which is a shame because i like the gameplay
in that case, maybe Virtua Fighter just isn't the franchise for you then
being minimalistic in terms of story, to the point of having no character endings at all, is the entire point of Virtua Fighter having no in-game story: you weren't supposed to get story tidbits handed to you on a silver plate, you were supposed to dig deep for story details yourself...ya know, actually put in effort in your research
But for a single-player experience that's just bad design. I wouldn't buy a game for hundreds of dollars, to beat the game once with one character, and that's it. I don't have much people to play with, so it's pretty lame since when i beat the game once i beat the game with everyone else, and i don't give a damn to score/time attack.
I bet that isn't even design, it's just SEGA being lazy.
Re: MT7's Random Palette Thread for OHMSBY Characters (and others I guess) v2
December 20, 2024, 05:12:50 pm View in topic context#18
Posted by Dude01
in MT7's Random Palette Thread for OHMSBY Characters (and others I guess) v2 (Started by MT7 「双蓮の隻眼」 October 18, 2024, 11:15:24 pmBoard: Edits & Addons 1.0+
Request Time Lesgo:
1. Bullet (Resentone) - Seonhee [Like A Dragon Infinite Wealth]
Reason: Good thing she is playable at infinite wealth and why add her uhm idk it fits for her ig idk
https://yakuza.fandom.com/wiki/Seonhee
idk if this is a good reference.
2. Yumi (OHMSBY) - Ahri [2XKO]
Reason: Well it fits for her
https://2xko.riotgames.com/en-us/ahri/
3. Susanoo (OHMSBY) - Dr. Phosphorus (Creature Commando)
Reason: Ngl He has the coolest effect and character wise also, but yeh idk who to put it so i was thinking hm maybe he fits
https://www.reddit.com/r/DCcomics/comments/1g7v0kf/discussiondr_phosphorus_from_creature_commandos/
4. Eltnum (Resentone) - Clorinde [Genshin Impact]
Reason: Maybe This Fits Her
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Clorinde
5. Kagura (Tornillo) - Clive Rosfield [Tekken 8 but his from ff 16]
Reason: Well This character has more flashy stuff and yeh its gonna break my "graphics card". For me putting him at tekken is kinda of uh hm i either go with it or hate it. Cuz Tifa is right there man. But hey i ain't gonna complain cuz hey the mishimas are right there and it dead soo the game is fine so yeh
https://tekken.fandom.com/wiki/Clive_Rosfield
6. Adachi (OHMSBY) - Yu & Izanagi no Okami
7. Carmine (OHMSBY) - Freeman (Garou Mark of the wolves)
https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/Freeman
#19
Posted by codeunexist
in I have a good news but (Started by codeunexist December 17, 2024, 03:27:02 pmBoard: Graphics
https://www.bilibili.com/opus/1013042812146417671
because she is a float allen, I remake lots motion to prove visual effect. maybe she is the best character I ever paint.
#20
Posted by TrinitroRoy
in New Virtua Fighter Project Announced (Started by GTOAkira December 13, 2024, 04:12:40 amBoard: Fighting Games
please no
I think a story mode would betray the spirit of Virtua Fighter
uh... the thing i hate the most in VF is the abscence of a story mode/endings, i beat VF5 in a few minuted and aftwr that there was nothing else to do, i hate the fact that there are no endings, there is no incentive to play it in single-player, which is a shame because i like the gameplay
in that case, maybe Virtua Fighter just isn't the franchise for you then
being minimalistic in terms of story, to the point of having no character endings at all, is the entire point of Virtua Fighter having no in-game story: you weren't supposed to get story tidbits handed to you on a silver plate, you were supposed to dig deep for story details yourself...ya know, actually put in effort in your research