The Mugen Fighters Guild - Arcade Accurate MK Chars

SaltAddict

Arcade Accurate MK Chars

#1 January 26, 2022, 12:10:23 am

BETA 1 released!
https://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/cage-mk2-beta-release-1-197739.0.html

Cage v1.0 released!
https://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/johnny-cage-mk2-v1-0-199221.0.html

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(idk why videos are flipped)

This project originally started as a simple edit of OMEGAPSYCHO's Cage together with some MKP stuff to make it more accurate to the source games. However I feel like I've changed enough stuff by now for it to qualify as its own thing. Re-did the sff, re-worked all the basic movement, special moves, hits, etc... with frame data and speeds directly from the original MK2 game. Hitboxes are also being fully redone with a hitbox-viewer tool. He has blood effects for all his basics but no fatalities and I haven't even touched the snd file yet. The hardest part has been re-creating all the jank in the MK engine.

Hoping this can serve as a template for other creators so that classic MK can have the same level of accuracy SF, KOF, etc... have in MUGEN.

Last Edit: March 24, 2024, 11:37:24 am by SaltAddict

Lasombra Demon

Re: Arcade Accurate MK Chars

#2 January 26, 2022, 04:50:10 am

WIP: Tons and tons of IKEMEN stages

I really like this one. Will follow this closely.

For current creations go here: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWQBXFmGKhw88wuHiCphio5Bfg7r9qx1D

For donations go to https://ko-fi.com/lasombrademon

Two-Tone Dearly

Re: Arcade Accurate MK Chars

#3 January 27, 2022, 04:53:51 am

Lover of yardsales.

ah cool, hope this will lead to accurate conversions of characters from MK2 and from the other MK games (MK1, UMK3, and Trilogy)

xp41

Re: Arcade Accurate MK Chars

#4 February 10, 2022, 05:00:46 am

Continue the great work my dude
I'm rootin for ya!

SaltAddict

Re: Arcade Accurate MK Chars

#5 May 20, 2022, 11:36:28 pm

Project's not dead, my free time is just inconsistent lately.

Took some work, but his fireballs are now 1:1 with the arcade.

Red shadows! Just the kick for now, but I might add a config file with an option to toggle it for his other moves.

He will also have an option to toggle "MK3 Mode". Gives him his combo strings and run from MK Trilogy, and also changes up some of the properties on his basics to match UMK3

And of course, FATALITIES! Still tinkering with how best to implement these, so that it's easy to make other chars compatible.

Unfortunately, I've broken his AI atm, so I wasn't able to record a Cage VS Cage match. Will post a video once that's fixed. Debating whether or not there should be an option to enable MK2's infamous bullshit AI

Two-Tone Dearly

Re: Arcade Accurate MK Chars

#6 May 21, 2022, 01:50:07 am

Lover of yardsales.

SaltAddict said, May 20, 2022, 11:36:28 pm

Project's not dead, my free time is just inconsistent lately.

Took some work, but his fireballs are now 1:1 with the arcade.

Red shadows! Just the kick for now, but I might add a config file with an option to toggle it for his other moves.

He will also have an option to toggle "MK3 Mode". Gives him his combo strings and run from MK Trilogy, and also changes up some of the properties on his basics to match UMK3

And of course, FATALITIES! Still tinkering with how best to implement these, so that it's easy to make other chars compatible.

Unfortunately, I've broken his AI atm, so I wasn't able to record a Cage VS Cage match. Will post a video once that's fixed. Debating whether or not there should be an option to enable MK2's infamous bullshit AI

This is looking pretty damn good right now! and yeah that could be a good option to have the BS AI from MK2 as a switchable option.

xp41

Re: Arcade Accurate MK Chars

#7 May 25, 2022, 06:44:13 pm

You're making real good progress, dude! I'm curious as to how you'll obtain vels, timings, hitbox data and whatnot from MKT though, since it never saw an official arcade release.

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After the second round, the CPU does things that no human player can do—like dodging an uppercut or blocking throws and counterattacking with their own.ˢʳᶜ

MKII AI is definitely on a whole other level of bullshit compared to the rest of the releases from the 2D era lol

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SaltAddict

Re: Arcade Accurate MK Chars

#8 May 27, 2022, 07:44:32 pm

xp41 said, May 25, 2022, 06:44:13 pm

You're making real good progress, dude! I'm curious as to how you'll obtain vels, timings, hitbox data and whatnot from MKT though, since it never saw an official arcade release.

You can get velocities and timings from any emulator with frame advance and screenshot functions. And there are tools to view the hitboxes in MKT, either through in-game options (n64 version) or gameshark codes (ps1). The only game atm without any kind of hitbox viewer is MK1.

xp41 said, May 25, 2022, 06:44:13 pm

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Are you guys aware of this? It seems like a long ways away from being close to a finished product, but nonetheless I think it's an exciting development for fans of old-school MK.

That looks cool! Reminds me of the MK1 HD remix that was being made by that bleed guy years ago. Wonder if its the same team?

SaltAddict

Re: Arcade Accurate MK Chars

#9 June 30, 2022, 11:58:46 pm

Some videos. Working on his sound effects atm, those are still not finished so you will hear some missing sfx or old sounds from omegapsycho's version. AI is next so he's more than a punching bag

SaltAddict

Re: Arcade Accurate MK Chars

#10 August 28, 2022, 10:16:03 pm

Quick implementation of a brutality:

Two-Tone Dearly

Re: Arcade Accurate MK Chars

#11 September 01, 2022, 12:51:30 pm

Lover of yardsales.

SaltAddict said, August 28, 2022, 10:16:03 pm

Quick implementation of a brutality:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcf1trwO54Y[/youtube]

nice Brutality! looks really good!

oscar123

Re: Arcade Accurate MK Chars

#12 September 01, 2022, 02:44:15 pm

is for mugen niormal o only for mk mugen?

SaltAddict

Re: Arcade Accurate MK Chars

#13 September 01, 2022, 11:28:17 pm

oscar123 said, September 01, 2022, 02:44:15 pm

is for mugen niormal o only for mk mugen?

It's for normal mugen

SaltAddict

Re: Arcade Accurate MK Chars

#14 March 08, 2023, 07:23:19 pm

Obligatory "project is not dead" although it was hard to find the motivation to work on Cage these past few months. But the MK2 source code leak a few months ago actually revived my interest somewhat.

Rainbow blood! This will be controlled by a config file which you can edit to add names of characters and what blood colours they should have. Currently planning support for five: red, green, black, blue, and gold.

I've also implemented his friendship. It uses the UMK3 style for now (don't block during the match).

MK1 mode! Had to round out the trilogy!

Most of the work done has been "under the hood", so to speak. Rewriting corner push routines, implementing MK1 stuff, fixing pallettes etc etc. I've decided to scale down the scope of the project somewhat, at least until I've got something that I can release. Rest assured, he will still come with full MK1/MK2/UMK3 gameplay, but some customization options will have to wait until later updates.

Two-Tone Dearly

Re: Arcade Accurate MK Chars

#15 March 10, 2023, 09:26:45 am

Lover of yardsales.

ah, liking the idea of those options for MK1, MK2, and UMK3 modes.

can't wait to try him out when he's ready.

SaltAddict

Re: Arcade Accurate MK Chars

#16 March 29, 2023, 12:37:40 am

Finishing up his finishers (eh) atm. Hoping to release a beta soon!

All that needs to be done for compatibility is add the reaction animations to the other character.

If the opponent does not have the required anims, Cage has a set of alternate fatalities.

A sample of the extra "-alities".

SaltAddict

Re: Arcade Accurate MK Chars

#17 April 08, 2023, 11:36:09 pm

Stage is The Pit 2 by Juano16. You can add this pit fatality to any stage by simply editing Cage's config file. Still missing sound+blood effects atm.

Last Edit: April 08, 2023, 11:41:37 pm by SaltAddict