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MikeDaBike

KFM with SSBB assist trophies
#1  October 09, 2009, 04:44:49 pm
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This is the all-time template KFM with an assist trophy system including 9 different helpers (thus the MISC icon, I hope it's appropriate)

Currently these helpers are implemented:
-Classic Super Mario (SMB3)
-Mario Kart drivers (Super Mario Kart)
-Metroid (Super Metroid)
-Koopa Bros. (SMB3)
-Morden Rebels (Metal Slug)
-GIM (Kirby Superstar)
-Shadow Man (Mega Man 3)
-Lyn (Fire Emblem)
-Serra (Fire Emblem)

It's possible to add new helpers and to add this system to other chars (it's pretty complicated though).
For more information check the Readme.

It is best demonstated in a video (we can see 4 of the helpers here).
KFM's friends beat the shit out of himself

Some Pics:









Get him here:
DOWNLOAD CHAR

UPDATE: Get the system files only, with a guide how to add it to any character, here:
DOWNLOAD SYSTEM FILES

I might add more helpers someday, I just dont have the motivation right now.
Latest Creation: SSBB Assist Trophies
Last Edit: October 26, 2009, 10:45:55 pm by MikeDaBike

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Re: KFM with SSBB assist trophies
#2  October 09, 2009, 04:54:10 pm
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I'll try him out in a minute, but it sounds like a brilliant idea.  I recommend using the Allstars sprites for the SMB assists you've got going, they'd just match the better-quality sprites you've got for other assists.  You can find them here.

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Re: KFM with SSBB assist trophies
#3  October 10, 2009, 01:06:54 am
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AWESOME CONCEPT
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Re: KFM with SSBB assist trophies
#4  October 10, 2009, 01:25:15 am
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That's pretty damn creative

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Re: KFM with SSBB assist trophies
#5  October 10, 2009, 01:34:05 am
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Interesting.

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Re: KFM with SSBB assist trophies
#6  October 10, 2009, 01:44:34 am
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heres the first person who knows what to do with kfm awesome job :sugoi:

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Re: KFM with SSBB assist trophies
#7  October 10, 2009, 06:06:31 am
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Maybe what you could do is, not just have the assist trophies appear at random, but it just looks plain silly of them just sitting in the air like that.
How about you add some gravity to them so that they fall to the ground? If not, then at least limit them to appear always at the ground?


Anyways, nice concept. I like it. Please add more assist trophies. :)

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Re: KFM with SSBB assist trophies
#8  October 10, 2009, 06:14:34 am
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Or code a playable standalone GIM, I dunno.
We need more good Kirbeh characters. :U

As an extra assist trophy, you could try adding... hmm...
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MikeDaBike

Re: KFM with SSBB assist trophies
#9  October 11, 2009, 01:06:33 am
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Chosis said, October 09, 2009, 04:54:10 pm
I recommend using the Allstars sprites for the SMB assists you've got going, they'd just match the better-quality sprites you've got for other assists.

I prefer using the sprites from the original games here. Maybe it's nostalgia but it was always more fun for me playing the original games.

N-Mario said, October 10, 2009, 06:06:31 am
Maybe what you could do is, not just have the assist trophies appear at random, but it just looks plain silly of them just sitting in the air like that.
How about you add some gravity to them so that they fall to the ground? If not, then at least limit them to appear always at the ground?

Yeah you are right it looks kind of stupid. I just wanted to demonstrate the concept of hitbox based hit detection with helpers here. Because other characters I know that used helpers you can hit, used a method with distance calculations which works fine for helpers staying on the ground most the time, but gets in trouble if the helper can appear anywhere.

Wang-Tang said, October 10, 2009, 06:14:34 am
Or code a playable standalone GIM, I dunno.
We need more good Kirbeh characters. :U

I dont know much about playable kirby characters, but a GIM like this one would have a very small moveset. A kirby helper team would be an idea that I already had sometime ago, I might make something similar sometime maybe.
Latest Creation: SSBB Assist Trophies

Keku

Re: KFM with SSBB assist trophies
#10  October 11, 2009, 01:14:04 am
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MikeDaBike said, October 11, 2009, 01:06:33 am
I dont know much about playable kirby characters, but a GIM like this one would have a very small moveset. A kirby helper team would be an idea that I already had sometime ago, I might make something similar sometime maybe.
Pretty much like Xex's Kirby; a game-accurate conversion with a Milky Way Wishes-like power-changing ability.
Quite honestly, I'd love to see GIM, Sir Kibble and Capsule J teamed up for some reason.

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Re: KFM with SSBB assist trophies
#11  October 18, 2009, 08:40:22 pm
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Haha that's pretty clever!  I love this idea!  Great char!

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Re: KFM with SSBB assist trophies
#12  October 25, 2009, 02:12:26 am
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Teach me!!

I would very much like 2 know how to code in those special helpers...

And very awesome concept, I sometimes actually use kfm now
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Re: KFM with SSBB assist trophies
#13  October 25, 2009, 02:29:34 am
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Spaz_Atack145 said, October 25, 2009, 02:12:26 am
Teach me!!

I would very much like 2 know how to code in those special helpers...

And very awesome concept, I sometimes actually use kfm now
PM and see if the character is open souce then sprite swap him or just look at the coding
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MikeDaBike

Re: KFM with SSBB assist trophies
#14  October 25, 2009, 03:37:25 pm
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Spaz_Atack145 said, October 25, 2009, 02:12:26 am
Teach me!!

I would very much like 2 know how to code in those special helpers...

The system works independent of the char. You still got to add the sprites and sounds to the .sff and .snd files.

I think I will upload an extra archive just containing the files you need, with a more detailed manual how to add the system to other chars. It might be up today or tomorrow, I will let you know.
Latest Creation: SSBB Assist Trophies

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Re: KFM with SSBB assist trophies
#15  October 25, 2009, 08:59:21 pm
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awesome...this is the best kfm ever...in my opinion

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Re: KFM with SSBB assist trophies
#16  October 26, 2009, 12:25:51 am
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MikeDaBike said, October 25, 2009, 03:37:25 pm
Spaz_Atack145 said, October 25, 2009, 02:12:26 am
Teach me!!

I would very much like 2 know how to code in those special helpers...

The system works independent of the char. You still got to add the sprites and sounds to the .sff and .snd files.

I think I will upload an extra archive just containing the files you need, with a more detailed manual how to add the system to other chars. It might be up today or tomorrow, I will let you know.

Aww, thank u! :)
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Magma_Saiyan

Re: KFM with SSBB assist trophies
#17  October 26, 2009, 10:11:02 pm
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if i may ask and out of curiosity, how do you make more come out?
Card Sagas Wars!!

MikeDaBike

Re: KFM with SSBB assist trophies
#18  October 26, 2009, 10:45:20 pm
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A little UPDATE:

I added a new link below the first one, linking to the system files only, with a guide how to add it to any char.
It may take some time to get it to work with your char, let me know if there are any troubles with it.

And now to the question:
Magma_Saiyan said, October 26, 2009, 10:11:02 pm
if i may ask and out of curiosity, how do you make more come out?

Sorry, I dont know what you mean. Do you mean how to add helpers to the system? The code is documented, you should have a look at the cns files (AT_helper.cns in particular). Anyway, it's not that easy to make helpers for it, because it has to work with every char. In a full game it would be much simpler, but here you have to use many vars to determine the enemy position and various other things (as explained in the AT_helper.cns file).
Latest Creation: SSBB Assist Trophies

Magma_Saiyan

Re: KFM with SSBB assist trophies
#19  October 26, 2009, 11:37:02 pm
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well actually what i meant was how do you get more of the trophies to come out(not characters)if its even possible
MikeDaBike said, October 26, 2009, 10:45:20 pm
Sorry, I dont know what you mean. Do you mean how to add helpers to the system? The code is documented, you should have a look at the cns files (AT_helper.cns in particular). Anyway, it's not that easy to make helpers for it, because it has to work with every char. In a full game it would be much simpler, but here you have to use many vars to determine the enemy position and various other things (as explained in the AT_helper.cns file).
your telling me!! i just wish i could make a character in general let alone adding characters in your "assist trophy" character :S

oh yeah and so far i have some sprites in the character but not all of them and my character tends to have a copy of himself is that normal and i just need to add the other sprites or do i need to change things?
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Last Edit: October 26, 2009, 11:50:29 pm by Magma_Saiyan

MikeDaBike

Re: KFM with SSBB assist trophies
#20  October 27, 2009, 12:04:16 am
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Magma_Saiyan said, October 26, 2009, 11:37:02 pm
well actually what i meant was how do you get more of the trophies to come out(not characters)if its even possible

Ah, so you mean to have more than one assist helper at the same time? Hmm funny, I dont know why but I never thought about that.
It's not hard to enable that, you just have to change one trigger to have as much trophies at you want. Though right now it wont work properly, because there are some numhelper triggers that wont work, so i first have to make some minor changes to the code.
I will add that in the next update.

Magma_Saiyan said, October 26, 2009, 11:37:02 pm
your telling me!! i just wish i could make a character in general let alone adding characters in your "assist trophy" character :S

oh yeah and so far i have some sprites in the character but not all of them and my character tends to have a copy of himself is that normal and i just need to add the other sprites or do i need to change things?

Did you change all the files like it is described in the guide? Just adding sprites wont do anything, you would have to change the def, air, cns and snd files too. Just follow the guide in the README (that comes with the archive from the second link).
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