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The true Nature of the Satsui No Hadou , the Murderous Intent AKA Dark Hadou
#1  December 09, 2008, 05:29:53 am
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In a attempt to raise martial arts... mythos awareness among us, fighting gamers, and to see if misslabeling like this stop happening, or at least is reduced to unaware newbies, I've decided to share to you all a little secret: What truly is the Satsui No Hadou, the Murderous/Killing Intent, Known by Street Fighter Western Fans as Dark Hadou or simply "The power that Gouki uses to produces fireballs".

I found out about it on this site. The site itself is more about Chinese Martial Arts (Kung Fu, Muay Thay) however,chinese culture is the base for Japanese culture, so this basic concept is common to both. the site is a good read, specially if you are interested in the philosophy behind martial arts. it is interesting for Street Fighter Fans for 2 reasons: it clarifies what is the "Satsui no Hadou" and reveal that Ryu and Sagat's Rivalry (and probably the whole SF1 game for that matter) were based on a true story.

but since you really must understand some concepts of martial arts to truly get the text, I'm doing a newbies friendly explanation.



In a few words: Satsui no Hadou is a power that bases itself on the deep hatred you feel for you opponent, to the point of desiring his death. you might already be familiar with this fact, since Gouki's story explain it quite well.

now for the actual explanation:

the first thing you must know is how Chi works.

Chi is the energy that is inside you and around you. its the energy that you use to breath, to eat, to walk. its the energy that moves the wind, makes grass grows and leaves to fall. more than that, Chi is the very energy that makes you, or anything, alive.

as you probably imagined, Chi is also the energy you use to punch, kick, attack and defend.

everyone manipulates your inner Chi. after all, you breath, talk, walk, eat etc... any action you do can be considered a small, basic, instinctive manipulation of your Chi, and even the Chi around you.

however, as most natural things, this "manipulation" is clumsy and inneficient in certain events. sure, you can eat or walk perfectly, but if you try to throw a punch, it will consume much more energy than it should.

that is were Martial arts training comes in.

Trough Martial Arts training, you can teach yourself to better use your Chi. this is obtained by learning the postures, forms and moves of the desired style. each style is an answer to the question "What is the best way of using my chi during a fight?". the techiniques will teach you to use the minimum of energy for the best outcome. its quite common to see experienced martial artists to do several techiniques and hardly breaking a sweat. that is because, even tough the Artitst connected 5-10 moves in a row, His/her body used the miminum energy possible, relying on the moves natural flow and posture of the artist to achieve this.

However, even a experienced Martial Artist is still human, so his moves and forms are still largely influenced by his emotions. your emotions serve as the initial spark that will produce that move, and are what will keep your body doing the moves and fighting. if you have conflicting emotions during a fight, you will probably lose it. If you can't control your emotions, you will spent energy fighting both yourself and your opponent. that is why most martial arts were developed in monasteries: In order to fully develop a figthing style, you have to control both your movements and your emotions. you must develop both your mind and your body. the Yin and the Yang.

now we enter the realm of the mythos.

An experienced martial artist is capable to do moves that reach the human limit. the "mythos" say that, with further training, that martial artist can even go beyond that limit.

after all, you are manipulating you Chi. but your Chi is part of the Chi of your enviroment. so, with proper training, you can not just use your own Chi, but the Chi around your as well.

this way, you can draw energy from earth to become immovable as a mountain , or use the wind to boost your flying kick.

or you can gather pure Chi energy and throw it on your opponent, as a powerfull punch.

this my friends, is the Hadouken. on single extremely powerfull open-handed punch that goes beyond the physical limitations for the fighter as what most people describe as a "fireball", even tough its not fire per se. doing it multiple times in a row (with fewer miliseconds of differences) would make what we call a "Kamehameha". or even, a "Pegasus Meteor".

however, as i said, you Chi manipulation depends on your emotions. your "hadouken" will only be as powerfull as the emotion that is working as "focus" to gather and manipulate that Chi.

its in here that lies the difference between Gouki's Ansatsuken and Ryu's.

Ryu's Ansatsuken style is based on the concept of Kikouhou, or Meritous intent. You don't have any strong feeling for you opponent. you fight to develop yourself as an martial artist and as a human being. Since you can't have any strong emotions towards your opponent, you must practice to empty your mind and control you energy so your moves only do the necessary damage so your opponent learn from his mistakes, but without killing him. This is the mindset of modern martial arts.


Gouki's Ansatsuken style however, is based on the the old mindset, when martial arts where still used as a tool of war. In this mindset, you must hate your opponent. you must desires the total annihilation of your oponent. you ultimate goal is the "killing strike", a move so powerfull, that will kill you oponent in a single strike. why? because you will enter the battlefield. you will be a warrior. and on the battlefield, you have to kill. even if your opponent is your family. either you kill or you will be killed.

if your hatred is strong enough, it might even make your body fight on its own, even after its dead, until the object of your hatred is completely annihilated or your own body is destroyed.

to harness that hatred into your moves, you must train yourself to visualize that move. if you want to inflict extreme damage with your punch, visualize it as a ram going trough your opponent's body. imagine your legs as a metal pole trashing your opponent's skull.
Once you were awakened to this state of mind, when your visualization techiniques are tuned with your hatred, you will emit a "aura of death". this "Killer Chi" can be so strong, that will make your opponent to lose the will to fight, even before the fight begins.

the interesting side of it is that, even tough a weapon of murder, the "Satsui no Hadou" is that. a weapon. and as such, the warrior who practices it should not use it lightly. for instance, a user of the Satsui no Hadou would never use his techniques against someone that is not a warrior, or an innocent person. as a weapon, the Satsui no Hadou can only be used on the battlefield, towards the object of my hatred, not on an everyday basis. so, and experienced Satsui no Hadou user actually learns to "avoid" such confrotations. he learns to sense when someone or something has the intention to harm him. he will then judge if that intention is worthy or not of a "true battle". a true user of the Satsui no Hadou only weilds his fist for what his just and righteous.


however, it is still a tool of murder. and that is where the conflict between Gouki and Ryu comes in. Ryu does not believe that muder can be "just or righteous". while Gouki does.


that is the true nature of the Satsui no Hadou. a state of mind, that when used together with proper visualization, can produce feats that exceed the human nature.


so, when someone do a stage like this, called "Realm of the Dark Hadou", he is actually saying

"Hey, this is how i imagine my mind to be. pretty cool, huh?"



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Re: The true Nature of the Satsui No Hadou , the Murderous Intent AKA Dark Hadou
#2  December 09, 2008, 05:39:03 am
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Very interesting read, seeing how it all comes together.
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Imagine a zanguief runing to attack ryu, ryu does a quick+kind of weak fast punch and hit the chest of zanguief, will this punch be enough to zanguief say/think \"oh no, this punch hurted a little, I better stop the attack and put my hand on my chest to help contain the pain while ignoring if ryu is going to make other attacks now"


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#3  December 09, 2008, 06:22:08 am
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ill train to throw hadoukens now.  o_O

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#4  December 09, 2008, 07:12:41 am
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however, it is still a tool of murder. and that is where the conflict between Gouki and Ryu comes in. Ryu does not believe that muder can be "just or righteous". while Gouki does.

Which kinda falls flat-Bison NEEDED killing.(Even though he's popped up AGAIN-looks like even a direct trip to Hell can't really phase him.  What will it TAKE to get RID of him?!)

....It's an old argument, older than them.  "Murder is wrong."  "Some people need killing."

if your hatred is strong enough, it might even make your body fight on its own, even after its dead, until the object of your hatred is completely annihilated or your own body is destroyed.

Juuza makes more sense now, though it wasn't exactly 'hatred'.  I guess strong emotion is enough.

to harness that hatred into your moves, you must train yourself to visualize that move. if you want to inflict extreme damage with your punch, visualize it as a ram going trough your opponent's body. imagine your legs as a metal pole trashing your opponent's skull.
Once you were awakened to this state of mind, when your visualization techiniques are tuned with your hatred, you will emit a "aura of death". this "Killer Chi" can be so strong, that will make your opponent to lose the will to fight, even before the fight begins.

the interesting side of it is that, even tough a weapon of murder, the "Satsui no Hadou" is that. a weapon. and as such, the warrior who practices it should not use it lightly. for instance, a user of the Satsui no Hadou would never use his techniques against someone that is not a warrior, or an innocent person. as a weapon, the Satsui no Hadou can only be used on the battlefield, towards the object of my hatred, not on an everyday basis. so, and experienced Satsui no Hadou user actually learns to "avoid" such confrotations. he learns to sense when someone or something has the intention to harm him. he will then judge if that intention is worthy or not of a "true battle". a true user of the Satsui no Hadou only weilds his fist for what his just and righteous.

Looking at this, I can't help but visualise Raoh.  Even at his worst, he didn't fight unnecessarily.  Of course, he's the kind of guy who will try to push through, simply to test himself.
Eh...again, the philoshophy of it is older than the characters.

and to see if misslabeling like this stop happening, or at least is reduced to unaware newbies,

Hmm...I can see your issue.  That's not the stage of a fighting spirit, more a madman.  Though I can imagine 'the realm of Dark Hadou' as being pretty bleak...it's built off the need to defeat/kill your opponent, after all.

Nice read.
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Last Edit: December 09, 2008, 07:18:55 am by Bloodly

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#5  December 09, 2008, 07:37:27 am
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a user of the Satsui no Hadou would never use his techniques against someone that is not a warrior, or an innocent person. as a weapon, the Satsui no Hadou can only be used on the battlefield,

That doesn't come off at all well with gouki. I mean, didn't he mangle a ship or something in his 3S ending? I don't deny that that's probably normal. But gouki just comes over as raging nutter who makes use of whatever to become stronger.


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#6  December 09, 2008, 08:06:00 am
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He was training and they happened to get in the way of it, he's not very polite.

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Which kinda falls flat-Bison NEEDED killing.(Even though he's popped up AGAIN-looks like even a direct trip to Hell can't really phase him.  What will it TAKE to get RID of him?!)
Ryu wouldn't really kill him unless absolutely forced to.  See Goku versus Frieza, Ryu's the same as Goku in many aspects.
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#7  December 09, 2008, 04:46:37 pm
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Bloodly said, December 09, 2008, 07:12:41 am
Which kinda falls flat-Bison NEEDED killing.(Even though he's popped up AGAIN-looks like even a direct trip to Hell can't really phase him.  What will it TAKE to get RID of him?!)

....It's an old argument, older than them.  "Murder is wrong."  "Some people need killing."

Which is the same argument on those against death penalty and those pro-death penalty.


Bloodly said, December 09, 2008, 07:12:41 am
Juuza makes more sense now, though it wasn't exactly 'hatred'.  I guess strong emotion is enough.

Well, the "Satsui no Hadou" itself is based on hatred, but there is nothing stating you can't "love" someone to the point of desiring his/her death if  that someone does not love you back.

Bloodly said, December 09, 2008, 07:12:41 am
Looking at this, I can't help but visualise Raoh.  Even at his worst, he didn't fight unnecessarily.  Of course, he's the kind of guy who will try to push through, simply to test himself.
Eh...again, the philoshophy of it is older than the characters.

Its a "clash" that is on the very basis of modern martial arts. how could tools of murder survive on a time and age that despise it?

Cyanide said, December 09, 2008, 07:37:27 am
That doesn't come off at all well with gouki. I mean, didn't he mangle a ship or something in his 3S ending? I don't deny that that's probably normal. But gouki just comes over as raging nutter who makes use of whatever to become stronger.

actually, he destroys the sunken ship, sending the pieces of it to surface, not the submarine or the ship on the surface. however, Gouki puts his training as his top priority, so he will not "care" if one of the pieces hit the other ship.

on the other hand, while training on his SFA3 stage, he saved the life of a kid who was falling on its pits. go figure.

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#8  December 10, 2008, 01:41:18 am
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Tony 3rd said, December 09, 2008, 05:29:53 am
I found out about it on this site. The site itself is more about Chinese Martial Arts (Kung Fu, Muay Thay) however,chinese culture is the base for Japanese culture, so this basic concept is common to both. the site is a good read, specially if you are interested in the philosophy behind martial arts. it is interesting for Street Fighter Fans for 2 reasons: it clarifies what is the "Satsui no Hadou" and reveal that Ryu and Sagat's Rivalry (and probably the whole SF1 game for that matter) were based on a true story.

You're welcome  ;D

Nice to know the guy's still writing articles, even though some are now in a more conventional blog.
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