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Possible Strikers System
#1  August 31, 2011, 08:49:08 pm
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A friend and I were discussing the possibility of a striker sysytem in the game. Even though it'd be a little more work for me, I think it might be fun. The way it would work is:

-Every character has a unique character-specific striker
-You get a limited number of striker calls per round/match, ala the first MVC

That's pretty much all there is to it. I think it might be cool to get some characters in the game in the form of cameos, and it would also add a little bit more to the gameplay (seeing as how assists are so important in the VS series).

Here's the list of strikers we came up with (obviously these are tentative and this thread is for discussion of the idea AND the strikers):

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1. Ryu (SF) - Sakura
2. Ken (SF) - Sean
3. Alex (SF3) - Tom (his mentor from SF3 that looks like Jean Reno)
4. Charlie (SFA) - Guile
5. Mr. X (Resident Evil 2) - Zombie or Nemesis, or maybe another T-103
6. Jill Valentine (Resident Evil) - Barry Burton
7. Hinata (Rival Schools) - Kyosuke or Batsu
8. Morrigan (Darkstalkers) - Demitri
9. Megaman (Megaman) - Protoman
10. M. Bison/Vega (SF2) - Cammy
11. Jin Saotome (Cyberbots) - Captain Commando
12. Arthur (Ghosts 'n Goblins) - Firebrand
13. Crimson Viper (Street Fighter IV) -
14. Jedah (Darkstalkers) - Q-Bee
15. Leo (Red Earth) - Tessa
16. Albert Wesker (Resident Evil) - Tyrant
17. Frank West (Dead Rising) - Chuck Greene
18. Haggar (Final Fight) - Cody
19. Chun-Li (Street Fighter II) - Yun

THE WORLD

1. K' (KoF) - Kula
2. Lynn Baker (Rage of the Dragons) - Billy Lee
3. Tizoc (Garou: MOTW) - B. Jenet
4. Captain America (Marvel) - Iron Man
5. Solid Snake (MGS) - Meryl
6. Rorschach (Watchmen/DC) - Nite Owl II
7. Jin Kazama (Tekken) - Kazuya
8. Blaze (Streets of Rage) - Adam Hunter
9. CM Punk (WWE) - John Cena
10. Squall Leonhart (FFVIII) - Zell
11. Goku (Dragon Ball Z) - Vegeta
12. Sub-Zero (Mortal Kombat) - Smoke
13. Det. Garret Laurel (SHADEs of Manhattan 2) - Jack Kaneda (his partner from SHADEs 2)
14. Koopa Troopa (Super Mario Bros.) - Goomba
15. Dr. Doom (Marvel) - Sentinel
16. Sonic the Hedgehog (Sonic the Hedgehog) - Tails
17. Axel Stone (Streets of Rage) - Max
18. Scorpion (Mortal Kombat) - Reptile
19. Terry Bogard (Fatal Fury) - Blue Mary

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Last Edit: July 07, 2012, 10:28:18 pm by Sean Altly

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#2  August 31, 2011, 09:13:18 pm
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I think that Jun and/or Hwoarang would both be more suitable for Jin than Kazuya.

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#3  August 31, 2011, 09:20:48 pm
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Lilith would make more sense to be Morrigan's Striker unless your going with Morrigan after she absorbs Lilith.

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#4  August 31, 2011, 10:07:00 pm
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I think if an existing character is present but unfinished, it would allow you more flexibilty. Sorta how Kamekaze used Batsu's limited sprites to create a striker for him. Since someone mentioned Hwoarang above, you could make it a bit easier on yourself I guess too if you took the existing Tekken 3 Hwoarang and resprited him, so maybe he could have his launcher kick for example. The other option I guess is that you could have a preset pack of strikers (kinda like Syn's strider) and for all the Capcom characters have a small variety of Capcom faces, and likewise for the rest.

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#5  August 31, 2011, 10:49:55 pm
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I really want to stick to just one per character.

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#6  August 31, 2011, 10:51:35 pm
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How about making random strikers, like mvc or that card project has? That gives more freedom on what chars you could add as striker.

Sean Altly

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#7  August 31, 2011, 10:53:50 pm
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That wouldn't really work in Mugen. The striker has to be coded into the character, hence the whole "one, unique striker per character" thing.

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#8  August 31, 2011, 11:13:07 pm
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I would suggest Q-Bee for Jedah's striker, since she was his servant.  Also I think Sentinel might be a better choice for Doom, if only for Team Cl0ckwork reference.  :P

I also think you could find someone more fitting for Scorpion than Reptile, but I understand why you chose him.  Same with Cena for Punk.  (My inner wrestling nerd REALLY wants to see Del Rio as his striker for some reason.)

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#9  August 31, 2011, 11:56:46 pm
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Sean CenAltly said, August 31, 2011, 08:49:08 pm
3. Alex (SF3) - Tom (his mentor from SF3 that looks like Jean Reno)
You'd better fully make him afterwards because that idea alone is so incredible that I am already impatient for more and more progress.

Tom is the motherfucking shit.

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#10  September 01, 2011, 01:15:36 am
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Agreed.  Plus Tom was said to have a fighting background and we never got to see him in action.

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#11  September 01, 2011, 01:20:13 am
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For Scorpion's striker, you can use Quan Chi. He is the sorcerer who resurrected Scorpion and framed Sub Zero for killing Scorpion's family.

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#12  September 01, 2011, 01:23:54 am
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I think he chose Reptile cause all he would have to do is repalette and change some sprites.

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#13  September 01, 2011, 01:34:30 am
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Yeah, I figured.
My inner fan boy goes off when I picture Quan Chi using Scorpion to defeat his opponents and capture their souls to be used in the NetherRealm. Sort of gives the striker a background story.

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#14  September 01, 2011, 01:38:09 am
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Sean CenAltly said, August 31, 2011, 10:53:50 pm
That wouldn't really work in Mugen. The striker has to be coded into the character, hence the whole "one, unique striker per character" thing.

Not entirely true. There are two ways you could implement a global striker system into a full game that I can think of off the bat, there are probably more.

1. If every character shares the same common.cns, you can program the strikers there.

2. You can make a strikers.cns and have every character link to it in their def files.

For the animations, put the sprites into the games fightfx.sff and fightfx.air. I don't know if you can set their animations directly when you do that though, you might have to have them drawn using explods and anim = F****.

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#15  September 01, 2011, 11:19:56 am
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Yeah, I didn't think of those. It would work, but part of the fun of this system for me is everyone having a personal striker.

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#16  September 01, 2011, 01:27:26 pm
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Ya, looking through the list and the idea behind it I think the personal striker system would be better, too. More balance and classier. Just wanted to mention that a global system COULD be done if you wanted it. :P

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Just made some tweaks.

CAPCOM

1. Ryu (SF) - Sakura/Oro
2. Ken (SF) - Sean
3. Alex (SF3) - Tom (his mentor from SF3 that looks like Jean Reno)
4. Charlie (SFA) - Guile
5. Chun Li (SF2) - Gen/Yun/Yang
6. Mr. X (Resident Evil 2) - Zombie or Nemesis
7. Jill Valentine (Resident Evil) - Barry Burton
8. Hinata (Rival Schools) - Kyosuke or Batsu
9. Morrigan (Darkstalkers) - Lilith (Demitri and Morrigan are rivals)
10. Strider Hiryu (Strider) - Strider Hien/Oroboros/Robot Eagle/Some Sub-Boss like the Robot Gorrila
11. Megaman (Megaman) - Protoman/Roll
12. M. Bison/Vega (SF2) - Juni and Juli
13. Jin Saotome (Cyberbots) - Devilot
14. Arthur (Ghosts 'n Goblins) - Chest Mage/Zombie (Firebrand it's one of his rivals, so)
15. ???
16. ???
17. Jedah (Darkstalkers) - Phobos(since his a model, so there's many of him and Jedah could just simple get one.)
18. Leo (Red Earth) - Tessa/Tabasa
19. Albert Wesker (Resident Evil) - Tyrant
20. Frank West (Dead Rising) - Chuck Greene

THE WORLD

1. Terry Bogard (Fatal Fury) - Blue Mary
2. K' (KoF) - Kula/Maxima
3. Lynn Baker (Rage of the Dragons) - Billy Lee
4. Tizoc (Garou: MOTW) - Raiden, from CVS 2
5. Captain America (Marvel) - Bucky
6. Solid Snake (MGS) - Meryl
7. Rorschach (Watchmen/DC) - Nite Owl II
8. Jin Kazama (Tekken) - Kazuya
9. Blaze (Streets of Rage) - Adam Hunter/Police Car
10. CM Punk (WWE) - John Cena
11. Squall Leonhart (FFVIII) - Zell
12. Goku (Dragon Ball Z) - Vegeta
13. Sub-Zero (Mortal Kombat) - Smoke
14. Dr. Doom (Marvel) - Some device he created
15. Det. Garret Laurel - Jack Kaneda (his partner from SHADEs)
16. Scorpion (Mortal Kombat) - Quan Chi
17. Koopa Troopa (Super Mario Bros.) - Bob-omb
18. Gambit (X-Men) - Rogue
19. Sonic the Hedgehog (Sonic the Hedgehog) - Tails
20. Axel Stone (Streets of Rage) - Max

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#18  September 01, 2011, 04:34:24 pm
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As Ohzemesmo said, M.Bison/ Vega's best would be Juli or Juni, since Cammy is no longer "Killer Bee" :/
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#19  September 01, 2011, 04:37:23 pm
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CAPCOM

1. Ryu (SF) - Sakura/Gouken/Sagat want to win from ryu so he can help he to dont die for others.
2. Ken (SF) - Gouken Master of Ryu and ken
5. Chun Li (SF2) - Guile/Abel
6. Mr. X (Resident Evil 2) - Licker/Hunter     Nemesis Can attack Mr.x Nemesis isnt Like the movie of resident evil.
7. Jill Valentine (Resident Evil) - Barry Burton/Carlos Olivera
11. Megaman (Megaman) - Rush/Zero
19. Albert Wesker (Resident Evil) - Uroboros?/Hunk 4° survivor ?/Ada wong she worked for he on Re 4                 
Tyrant attacked Wesker i think tyrant is no good

THE WORLD

4. Tizoc (Garou: MOTW) - Raiden, from CVS 2
5. Captain America (Marvel) - Wolverine
6. Solid Snake (MGS) - Meryl/Ninja
8. Jin Kazama (Tekken) - Hoawrang/Paul
12. Goku (Dragon Ball Z) - Gohan Teen Ssj2/Goten/
13. Sub-Zero (Mortal Kombat) - Smoke/Liu Kang
16. Scorpion (Mortal Kombat) - Quan Chi/Noob Saibot
17. Koopa Troopa (Super Mario Bros.) - Bob-omb/Brother Hammers
18. Gambit (X-Men) - Rogue/Saber teeth
19. Sonic the Hedgehog (Sonic the Hedgehog) - Tails/Shadow/Knuckles
I just wanna Help :)

if i can.

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#20  September 01, 2011, 05:01:08 pm
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dênis gomes said, September 01, 2011, 04:37:23 pm
1. Ryu (SF) - Sakura/Gouken/Sagat want to win from ryu so he can help he to dont die for others.
They're rivals so thats a no go.
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Megaman (Megaman) - Rush/Zero
Zero didn't come around til Megaman X. This is classic Mega Man.
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Captain America (Marvel) - Wolverine
While this would be alright, Iron Man would be more suited for the role.
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Solid Snake (MGS) - Meryl/Ninja
You talking about Grey Fox? If so, I agree with you on that.
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Sub-Zero (Mortal Kombat) - Smoke/Liu Kang
Not really seeing the connection here. They're neutral towards each other, Smoke would be the best option.
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Scorpion (Mortal Kombat) - Quan Chi/Noob Saibot
Scorpion killed Noob (Classic Sub Zero) in MK1. Although they have yet to meet in the storyline, they are rivals.
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Gambit (X-Men) - Rogue/Saber teeth
Explain.

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