The Mugen Fighters Guild - Goku Z2 and Vegeta Z2 - HUGE update - 17/06/2013

Himeragi Yukina

Re: Goku Z2 and Vegeta Z2 - HUGE update - 17/06/2013

#81 June 22, 2013, 12:41:57 pm

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The path of resistance.

Little nitpicks regarding Sabat's voice:

"Beat it, punk!" sounds more appropriate for Knee Arrow. :|
No sound for when he hits max power too?

Also, I have the same sentiment about Machine Gun Temper, especially with the slide kick's distance limits removed. A good player can easily lock the opponent into a sadistic Machine Gun Loop, as I'd like to call it. Whether the slide kick is guarded or not, you can just cancel it into a jump, air dash backwards to medium distance where the Machine Gun Temper has the most frame advantage without leaving too much room for someone to jump after them, and continue using it.

There's the argument of just air dashing over it, or super/run-jumping your way over it all, but sometimes the jump height just doesn't cut it, and not everyone's going to play a new age character that has such mobility. Not only that, but if you catch an opponent guarding it's easy to just spam it away thanks to all the pushback.

I'm not the best at wording feedback, but I hope that was clear-cut.

PlayerOne

Re: Goku Z2 and Vegeta Z2 - HUGE update - 17/06/2013

#82 June 23, 2013, 09:17:37 pm

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Bug Report:

1. When you do the motion (D,DF,F x2) while your opponent is executing a move Goku Z2 will automatically use 1000 power to use his teleport air kick special.

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Last Edit: June 23, 2013, 09:57:55 pm by Flawless

Cybaster

Re: Goku Z2 and Vegeta Z2 - HUGE update - 17/06/2013

#83 June 24, 2013, 01:18:45 am

Limited time to use Infinite power !

The fact I didn't answer these last days doesn't mean I'm not noting everything down. Thanks for the feedback guys, I'll try to fix the critical stuff quickly enough (sorry, I'm not Infinite when it comes to this

). The whole balancing of the whole gameplay will take much longer, obviously.

Infinite Daze

Re: Goku Z2 and Vegeta Z2 - HUGE update - 17/06/2013

#84 June 24, 2013, 02:49:14 am

Cybaster said, June 24, 2013, 01:18:45 am

The fact I didn't answer these last days doesn't mean I'm not noting everything down. Thanks for the feedback guys, I'll try to fix the critical stuff quickly enough (sorry, I'm not Infinite when it comes to this ). The whole balancing of the whole gameplay will take much longer, obviously.

For some reason there is a different version of the AI for the Bicycle Kick, I didn't code this version.

Code:

; Bicycle Kick
[State -1, Bicycle Kick]
type = changestate
triggerall = var(59)
triggerall = statetype != A  && !WinKo
triggerall = power >= 1000 && stateno != 2300
triggerall = power < 2000
triggerall = roundstate = 2
triggerall = Enemynear,movetype = A
triggerall = EnemyNear,ctrl = 0
triggerall = Enemynear,statetype != L
triggerall = Enemynear,statetype != C
triggerall = ctrl ;|| stateno = 19|| stateno = 20|| stateno = 21|| stateno = [120,149]
triggerall = p2bodydist x = [-5,200]
triggerall = !(Enemynear,stateno = [5040,5120])
triggerall = !(Enemynear,stateno = [0,160])
triggerall = !(Enemynear,hitdefattr = SC, ST, HT)
triggerall = p2bodydist Y = [-30,0]
trigger1 = Enemynear,time >= 10
trigger2 = EnemyNear,AnimTime <= -7 
trigger2 = Enemynear,movetype = A
value = 2300 




; Bicycle Kick
;[State -1, Bicycle Kick]
;type = changestate
;triggerall= var(59)>=1 && numenemy && roundstate = 2 && statetype != A   && power >= 1000 && stateno != 2300
;triggerall= (enemy,stateno!=[120,155])&&(enemy,stateno!=[5100,5120])&&(enemynear,statetype!=L)
;triggerall= (p2bodydist x=[80,180]) && (p2bodydist y=[-120,5])
;trigger1 = Ctrl && (Random<100)
;trigger2 = (stateno = 100 || stateno = 101)&& (Random<20)
;trigger3 = stateno = 1300 && movecontact  && (Random<50);Slash Chop
;trigger4 = ((stateno = 200) || (stateno = 210) || (stateno = 220) || (stateno = 215)) && movecontact && (Random<100)
;trigger5 = ((stateno = 230) || (stateno = 240) || (stateno = 250)) && movecontact && (Random<100)
;trigger6 = ((stateno = 400) || (stateno = 410) || (stateno = 420)) && movecontact && (Random<100)
;trigger7 = ((stateno = 430) || (stateno = 440)) && movecontact && (Random<100)
;trigger8 = stateno=1002 && AnimElem = 3, >= 5 && (Random<20)
;trigger9 = stateno=1005 && AnimElem = 3, >= 5 && (Random<20)
;trigger10 = stateno=1008 && AnimElem = 3, >= 5 && (Random<20)
;trigger11 = stateno=1401 && anim=1402 && (Random<100);hurricane kick
;trigger12 = stateno=1411 && anim=1402 && (Random<50);EX hurricane kick
;trigger13 = ctrl && random<300 && enemynear,stateno=652 && enemynear,movetype=H && enemynear,statetype=A
;value = 2300

The second is the one I did, but it is crossed out. The first one is the one causing the problem, but it is easy to fix.
triggerall = var(59)>=1

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Joulz

Re: Goku Z2 and Vegeta Z2 - HUGE update - 17/06/2013

#85 June 24, 2013, 07:57:48 am

I'll do it myself.

@Cybaster: i sent you a video of the bug i told you about before, so that you have a better idea & maybea clue of why it is happening!

xPreatorianx1

Re: Goku Z2 and Vegeta Z2 - HUGE update - 17/06/2013

#86 June 27, 2013, 05:50:58 pm

Um is it just me or Vegeta won't say "Fuck your shit" or something similar in a taunt because of this update? As I clearly remember that being in the previous version consider I have it.

Balthazar

Re: Goku Z2 and Vegeta Z2 - HUGE update - 17/06/2013

#87 June 27, 2013, 06:07:13 pm

yeah we took out most of the swearing in this version. In the config there is an option to turn on the '+18' mode, which has the 'fuckyous' in tact.

xcheatdeath

Re: Goku Z2 and Vegeta Z2 - HUGE update - 17/06/2013

#88 June 27, 2013, 08:12:57 pm

commissions open bang my line

Hey guys, i dunno if it's just me but iirc wasn't there a 1.0 def in goku at one point?

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Cybaster

Re: Goku Z2 and Vegeta Z2 - HUGE update - 17/06/2013

#89 June 27, 2013, 08:22:25 pm

Limited time to use Infinite power !

There was, because at the time there were bugs in 1.0 that weren't in Winmugen, hence I used a different DEF file linking to different codes to fix said bugs.
Now, everything has been fixed so the character works the same in both Winmugen and 1.0, so no need for different DEF files, it's all in one character.

xcheatdeath

Re: Goku Z2 and Vegeta Z2 - HUGE update - 17/06/2013

#90 June 27, 2013, 08:25:03 pm

commissions open bang my line

Ah, alright gotcha I thought you had just missed it. Well thanks!

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QuickFist

Re: Goku Z2 and Vegeta Z2 - HUGE update - 17/06/2013

#91 June 27, 2013, 09:59:08 pm

There's a new reason for Balth to switch to 1.0 (a good one) Flawless' X-Costume Selector

Aldo

Re: Goku Z2 and Vegeta Z2 - HUGE update - 17/06/2013

#92 June 27, 2013, 10:16:40 pm

Staying Alive

^ I doubt that would be a good enough reason for Balthazar, come on if he hasn´t leaved Winmugen by now he will never do it

Plus I don´t like palette selectors that much.

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Ex☆Cham

Re: Goku Z2 and Vegeta Z2 - HUGE update - 17/06/2013

#93 June 27, 2013, 11:06:40 pm

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Never tried really these chars lol dat fame is well deserved.
Btw think you guys can add a patch for widescreen mode?

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SuliOfTheNerdVaid Suli

Re: Goku Z2 and Vegeta Z2 - HUGE update - 17/06/2013

#94 June 28, 2013, 06:00:17 am

M.U.G.E.N 4 LIFE!

THE UPDATE IS AWESOME AND BTW CAN'T WAIT TILL FRIEZA AND POCKET BLUESTREAK MAN U RULE

TRUEMicah

Re: Goku Z2 and Vegeta Z2 - HUGE update - 17/06/2013

#95 June 28, 2013, 06:13:25 am

The Only Easy Day was Yesterday

- The AI takes over Goku. Is anyone else having this problem?
- Vegeta can cause his opponent to become stuck in the air temporarily in certain instances (Going to look deeper into this).

SuliOfTheNerdVaid Suli

Re: Goku Z2 and Vegeta Z2 - HUGE update - 17/06/2013

#96 June 28, 2013, 06:18:49 am

M.U.G.E.N 4 LIFE!

Micah if u think about it i have faced goku Z2 and he is a hellofa challenge
and the vegetas ai is the master of air combos so i agree with u there they are tough

Sinnesloschen

Re: Goku Z2 and Vegeta Z2 - HUGE update - 17/06/2013

#97 June 28, 2013, 06:20:29 am

tired

Suli619 said, June 28, 2013, 06:18:49 am

vegetas ai is the master of air combos

His AI barely uses air combos. That and what Micah meant was that sometimes, when playing as Goku, the AI would just start playing and you'd lose control for the rest of the match.

Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am