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Started by primordialgunna, September 27, 2023, 08:20:36 pm
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How do I control a helper?
New #1  September 27, 2023, 08:20:36 pm
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Last Edit: October 01, 2023, 07:01:28 pm by primordialgunna

Odb718

Re: How do I control a helper?
#2  September 28, 2023, 07:38:19 am
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Put this in the helper. It may automatically work. Otherwise you can use StateDef -2 to make explods and have the helper watch for the explods
Code: 
[State 0, VelSet]
type = VelSet
trigger1 = command != "x" 
x = 0
y = 0

[State 0, VelSet]
type = VelSet
triggerall = command = "x"
trigger1 = command = "hldfwd"
x = 5
y = 0


[State 0, VelSet]
type = VelSet
triggerall = command = "x"
trigger1 = command = "hldback"
x = -5
y = 0
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Re: How do I control a helper?
#3  September 28, 2023, 02:23:31 pm
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Re: How do I control a helper?
#4  September 29, 2023, 04:21:28 am
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DS said, September 28, 2023, 02:23:31 pm
Odb718 said, September 28, 2023, 07:38:19 am

I may be wrong, but should not these have a root redirect?

Only if the keyctrl argument for the Helper state controller is set to 0, otherwise the helper will read the root's commands by default; in that case, you'll want to make sure that the helper doesn't accidentally enter any states that you don't want it to, since it will also inherit whatever hardcoded behavior (ie: walking states) plus anything that's defined in Statedef -1 (which can be resolved by simply adding an !ishelper trigger for any changestates you don't want the helper to use). You're probably just better off leaving it at 0 and throwing on a root redirect to save yourself the extra work unless you know what you're doing.

primordialgunna

Re: How do I control a helper?
#5  September 30, 2023, 07:48:24 pm
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I got it to partially work. The helper is spawned in Statedef -3 by the way and it has it's own Statedef just above Statedef 195 (Back Dash).


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So, the problem is it completely ignores the code on Statedef 6000, when keyctrl set to 0 and doesn't read my inputs. When I set it to 1, it copies the player's inputs, its animations, and ignores Statedef 6000 again. I used what Rice said with trigger = !ishelper on Statedef -1 moves and limited the helper to just walking but it still uses the player's anims, and I don't want it to jump and crouch with me.

Do I have to make states for the helper to go in in Statedef -1 for it work? If so, how do I go on about it? I already have a State -1 for Pebbler as well, but I'm unsure if it works. I appreciate the help

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Last Edit: September 30, 2023, 07:58:45 pm by primordialgunna

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Re: How do I control a helper?
#6  September 30, 2023, 07:57:41 pm
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It's much simpler to use redirects. Try this (without keyctrl):

Code: 
[State 0, VelSet]
type = VelSet
trigger1 = 1
x = 0
y = 0
 
[State 0, VelSet]
type = VelSet
trigger1 = root, command = "holdz"
trigger1 = root, command = "holdfwd" && root, command != "holdback"
x = 5
y = 0
 
[State 0, VelSet]
type = VelSet
trigger1 = root, command = "holdz"
trigger1 = root, command = "holdback" && root, command != "holdfwd"
x = -5
y = 0

Note that you need to add the "holdz" command to the cmd file.
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primordialgunna

Re: How do I control a helper?
#7  September 30, 2023, 08:40:51 pm
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Oh, interesting. I added it and it worked, thank you for your help. I'll try to understand more about how root direct works.

I added triggerall = enemy,facing = -1 so the helper's controls doesn't invert when you are on the right side of the screen.

One last thing, does root direct work when adding attacks to the helper?
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Re: How do I control a helper?
#8  September 30, 2023, 08:46:28 pm
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That facing check should probably also be made in relation to the root instead of the enemy. Or more like you should compare the helper's facing to the root's facing to decide which way is forward.

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One last thing, does root direct work when adding attacks to the helper?
What do you mean? If it's still about inputs it works the same as this case.
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Re: How do I control a helper?
#9  September 30, 2023, 09:25:35 pm
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Alright, it makes much more sense now. Also, how do you make it so it has an animation tied to it?

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What do you mean? If it's still about inputs it works the same as this case.

Yes, that's what I meant. Thank you.
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