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ELDER PREDATOR (based in Alien vs Predator movie) ***UPDATED sep/2023*** (Read 97272 times)

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ELDER PREDATOR (based in Alien vs Predator movie) ***UPDATED sep/2023***
#1  July 20, 2008, 09:10:06 pm
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This is the first public version of Elder Predator, an old WIP that is based in some sprites of Predator Warrior by HSR, but i modified every sprite to make it seem like the character of the AVP films. Of course, i had to create new ones, and every movement, so this is not a simply edit of Predator Warrior (if you use it, you can realize this fact). By the other hand, it´s compatible with all HSR chars (and mine, of course) in the different bood colors, fire effects, etc...


It has many special moves (included in a .doc file), 2 helpers, 2 intros, 2 win-poses, 6 palettes and many hours of work  ;P

*******UPDATED TO VERSION 1.0******************
Finally i hope this is the ultimate version of one of my oldest chars, 15 years later!
This pack includes:

CHARS:
-ELDER PREDATOR 1.0 (09/20/2023)
Sprites edited from Predator Warrior (AVP Arcade 1994)
This char includes:
6 palettes
Storyboard intro for Arcade mode
3 intros
3 win poses
2 random taunts
A special stand anim when it has 1/4 of life or less
A special lose anim whe the match is over (like my Mad Predator)

Read "Elder Predator commands" for the commands details

STAGES:
-AVP Antarctica v.1.1 (12/04/2010) + MUSIC (original sound of Antarctica)
Based in the AVP movie too




Download and more info (in spanish) in my blog: http://sergeusmugen.blogspot.com/

I hope you enjoy it!
Last Edit: September 20, 2023, 11:31:34 pm by sergeus

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Re: ELDER PREDATOR (based in Alien vs Predator movie)
#2  July 23, 2008, 12:02:48 am
Woo Hoo, his release  :D
Downloading this fucker lol
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#3  July 23, 2008, 02:35:51 am
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Awesome! Thanks for your time effort in this character. =]
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#4  July 24, 2008, 12:03:44 am
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Thanks to you both for playing!

Next releases: Alien Defender, Alien Stalker, Royal Guard, AVP Marine Pack v.2.0 (i hope this could be soon  :P)

JozoTheBoogey

Re: ELDER PREDATOR (based in Alien vs Predator movie)
#5  July 24, 2008, 12:59:01 am
Thanks to you both for playing!

Next releases: Alien Defender, Alien Stalker, Royal Guard, AVP Marine Pack v.2.0 (i hope this could be soon  :P)
WHat's about Alien Runner?
Re: ELDER PREDATOR (based in Alien vs Predator movie)
#6  July 24, 2008, 02:42:10 am
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This char needs some decent ai at least.
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#7  July 24, 2008, 09:02:09 am
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WHat's about Alien Runner?
Alien Runner is not a real AVP Arcade character, it´s from the movie "Aliens". Physically it could be like Alien Stalker, but without the tubes in its back. In AVP Italia there´s a member who has the Runner in his WIPs:
http://alienepredatoritalia.forumfree.net/?t=17221703

This char needs some decent ai at least.
Yes, it´s true, if anyone wants to develop a good AI for Elder Predator, It could be amazing (i´m still not ready to do it).

By the way, try to win a round with a helper (i mean the 2 "true" helpers), you could see his own win-pose.

Last Edit: July 24, 2008, 09:47:05 am by sergeus

JozoTheBoogey

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#8  July 24, 2008, 03:52:10 pm
It looks really great, and I saw his predalien it's really good, just It needs a work on his head.
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#9  July 24, 2008, 03:58:35 pm
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i liked him more to fight with in a team or fight against him so that´s why my ai suggestion, i should try to use him myself too, maybe it´s interesting!
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#10  July 26, 2008, 09:12:58 pm
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#11  July 26, 2008, 09:48:33 pm
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Great character!

I really want the royal guard, though.

Edit:

I was curious, - Did you plan on making the predator boss you fought at the elevator, too? (and possibly his partner)
Last Edit: July 27, 2008, 03:38:58 am by La Miss Fairy
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#12  July 27, 2008, 12:23:30 pm
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ha,ha the char handles pretty damn nice
from a players point.
i liked him more to fight with in a team or fight against him so that´s why my ai suggestion, i should try to use him myself too, maybe it´s interesting!

Well i create this char for using by a player, if you know every special move, you could have a nice fight experience (so it was my intention... ;P )

I really want the royal guard, though.
Did you plan on making the predator boss you fought at the elevator, too? (and possibly his partner)

Royal Guard is almost ready, i only must make 2 more specials.

The predator Boss you said: i think it´s "Mad Predator". If you have "Predator Warrior" by HSR, you can see it´s basically the same, including 2 palettes with the original white skin color. Maybe i could make an edit, with this palettes and some new anims (intro, win-pose, taunt...)

JozoTheBoogey

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#13  July 27, 2008, 08:22:54 pm
ha,ha the char handles pretty damn nice
from a players point.
i liked him more to fight with in a team or fight against him so that´s why my ai suggestion, i should try to use him myself too, maybe it´s interesting!

Well i create this char for using by a player, if you know every special move, you could have a nice fight experience (so it was my intention... ;P )

I really want the royal guard, though.
Did you plan on making the predator boss you fought at the elevator, too? (and possibly his partner)

Royal Guard is almost ready, i only must make 2 more specials.

The predator Boss you said: i think it´s "Mad Predator". If you have "Predator Warrior" by HSR, you can see it´s basically the same, including 2 palettes with the original white skin color. Maybe i could make an edit, with this palettes and some new anims (intro, win-pose, taunt...)

I have in plan to make a MVC2 Predator, still I need to learn somethings. It will be a great character, it has all the sprites which are required for a MVC character.
Re: ELDER PREDATOR (based in Alien vs Predator movie) ***UPDATED sep/2023***
#14  September 20, 2023, 11:34:55 pm
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Updated to version 1.0, details in the first post
Thanks!
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#15  September 21, 2023, 01:47:28 am
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Damn, talk about a long hiatus between updates. 15 years.
Re: ELDER PREDATOR (based in Alien vs Predator movie) ***UPDATED sep/2023***
#16  September 23, 2023, 03:46:36 am
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Okay, so I played against the character and checked out some details and... despite the amount of time it took, it has many glaring issues. I'm not a specialist, but here is what I found:

  • His normals have infinite priority, which, I get that he wields a spear, but that doesn't mean said spear should have a giant red box and no blue box to make the Elder vulnerable.
  • His cloak ability makes him invulnerable as he transitions from non-cloaked and cloaked, which definitely should not be a thing.
  • His summon supers also make him invulnerable, and worse than that, the net super and bladed projectile supers are unblockable and deal a lot of damage. The summon that bombards you is blockable but it deals a lot of chip damage as well. I think all of those could be toned down by making the Elder stay vulnerable and able to attack, but drastically reduce the damage and utility of the assistance that the rookies give. Like, have the star-throwing one throw only two low damaging stars that are blockable to apply pressure, have the net one be a simple stun and the blast one be like two shots for zoning and also lower damage.
Re: ELDER PREDATOR (based in Alien vs Predator movie) ***UPDATED sep/2023***
#17  September 28, 2023, 12:46:55 pm
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Okay, so I played against the character and checked out some details and... despite the amount of time it took, it has many glaring issues. I'm not a specialist, but here is what I found:

  • His normals have infinite priority, which, I get that he wields a spear, but that doesn't mean said spear should have a giant red box and no blue box to make the Elder vulnerable.
  • His cloak ability makes him invulnerable as he transitions from non-cloaked and cloaked, which definitely should not be a thing.
  • His summon supers also make him invulnerable, and worse than that, the net super and bladed projectile supers are unblockable and deal a lot of damage. The summon that bombards you is blockable but it deals a lot of chip damage as well. I think all of those could be toned down by making the Elder stay vulnerable and able to attack, but drastically reduce the damage and utility of the assistance that the rookies give. Like, have the star-throwing one throw only two low damaging stars that are blockable to apply pressure, have the net one be a simple stun and the blast one be like two shots for zoning and also lower damage.

Thanks for this feedback! Some of those issues are really interesting to improve.
I must say that i didn´t work during 15 years in it, the fact is that i didn´t update the char in 15 years, hehehe