O Ilusionista said, October 17, 2021, 09:44:41 pmTime to reveal something: I've been working with him in some characters already, as I coded Ken and I am finishing Adon.About the engine, its up to him, but I am coding using Mugen yet. I want to try it for sure, there is a lot of potential.But I am not familiar with it yet.That looks amazing
gdk1981 said, October 15, 2021, 08:29:20 pmI suppose the 320 x 240 resolution makes more sense for big TV screens! Some basic questions about IKEMEN for the purposes of this project . . . does it handle AI well? While I love multiplayer, I have gotten into playing the entire series against the computer over the years, so gotta have solid AI options. Also, is IKEMEN able to handle both winning and losing portraits? I do like the score system and dizzy features you mentioned--those are essential as well to the overall feel of the original. From what I understood, Ikemen's AI capabilities are essentially the same as Mugen 1.0/1.1, only difference being that Ikemen can also detect the AI Ramping system as floating numbers. In either case, the best way to have a good AI is actually by coding it in the character itself; which isn't something really difficult to do, once you reach a intermediate level of coding skills.About Win/Lose portraits, those can be coded in both Mugen and Ikemen without any problem, really. And while Mugen can techically have a dizzy system as well, the same can't be said about the score system - technically, you can have the visual aspects of it during a fight... but you won't be able to save anything once the match is over, since Mugen doesn't have a ranking screen. So yeah, IKEMEN is a way better option if you want to have all the features from a classic arcade.And speaking of Ikemen... I did a little work with it, as a test. I grabbed "CfSF's" Classic Ryu, the Japan stage made by Dark Saviour, and ripped some graphics and sounds myself, while adjusting everything to be as close as possible to the arcade proportions, in this SF2-style test build:https://www.mediafire.com/file/s5ypzo8nasca7l5/Ultimate_Street_Fighter_2.rar/fileThe resolution set here is 298x224. This way the game's proportions are the closest to 4:3, while keeping the same height of the original arcade sprites - so the only thing to re-scale via coding is the X scale, to a value like 0.7777...This is how it looks like in a x3 window:So, what do you think about this configuration? Does it look good enough with the rescale?Keep in mind I dind't change anything besides the Select screen; those are the default Ikemen graphics... everything else can be further reworked to be more on-style with SF2, of course.
Thanks so much for this explanation . . . I am totally open to moving ahead with IKEMEN, though the only concern remaining would be the broader familiarity with it across this community. (?) It would be good to have multiple people working on characters, and if only a small handful anywhere are proficient with IKEMEN, the completion time for a project like this would become complicated. I can guarantee direction and artwork on my end to see this to the end, but the means just has to be realistic = ).
gdk1981 said, October 19, 2021, 09:12:11 pmThanks so much for this explanation . . . I am totally open to moving ahead with IKEMEN, though the only concern remaining would be the broader familiarity with it across this community. (?) It would be good to have multiple people working on characters, and if only a small handful anywhere are proficient with IKEMEN, the completion time for a project like this would become complicated. I can guarantee direction and artwork on my end to see this to the end, but the means just has to be realistic = ).Trust me, IKEMEN is extremely easy to move into. The only challenge might be if some stages don't work, but I don't think that's the case here.I can help you guys out with it, and the advantages are HUGE.Online, real stage interaction, and a ton other stuff.
The thing here is: if only 1 or 2 can do Ikemen he would depend so much on them not quiting or work on it constantly, while Mugen can get a bigger team to help out.I think Ikemen would work better, but I dont know anything about it, just a few of his advantages.About the art, Im curious to see that, anything possible to share to see it?
NiO ErZeBeth--right on, those are my thoughts exactly. Also, preview art and videos should all be on the first page.
That doesn't seem like it would be a problem though, since Mugen creations are compatible with Ikemen Go? i.e. you could have some team members working only in Mugen while still using Ikemen as the engine for the game. Unless I'm missing something...
tunglashor said, October 20, 2021, 11:41:53 amThat doesn't seem like it would be a problem though, since Mugen creations are compatible with Ikemen Go? i.e. you could have some team members working only in Mugen while still using Ikemen as the engine for the game. Unless I'm missing something...basically, this.AFAIK.
gdk1981 said, October 09, 2021, 07:39:36 pmFor the past 5 years, I've poured a ton of money and time into a rather large SF2 project. Essentially, I have always wanted to take the original SF2 arcade games, add components of subsequent game mechanics to a SF2-style engine, tweak the original roster movesets a bit, and--most importantly--add characters from the rest of the series to the roster. This last part has involved scouring existing artwork (doing much of it from scratch myself) and to render charas from SF1-5, Alpha, and vs. series in the SF2 arcade sprite style. Here's a pic of everything I've done currently minus a few that are in progress, and each of these has 70+ animations. Just reaching out to see what else is out there in terms of interest and collaboration. I have worked with a few other artists on this massive project but would love to work with some like-minded MUGEN/SF2 fans who could help to bring this project to completion. So, existing character art, SF-styled portraits, coders familiar with the various SF game mechanics would be welcome. Feel free to PM me for any questions.WOWOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NiO ErZeBeTh said, October 20, 2021, 03:43:22 amThe thing here is: if only 1 or 2 can do Ikemen he would depend so much on them not quiting or work on it constantly, while Mugen can get a bigger team to help out.I think Ikemen would work better, but I dont know anything about it, just a few of his advantages.About the art, Im curious to see that, anything possible to share to see it?IKEMEN is 99.99% retrocompatible, and we can all use CNS instead of ZSS (heck even I don't know ZSS).Unless you are going to use some obscure Winmugen bug as a feature, MUGEN creators will do just fine using IKEMEN.
This is all extremely helpful! So really then, there's no issue having a few people code some characters in MUGEN and then fitting everything into the IKEMEN platform?
If talking Ikemen Go... which getting it v0.98.0 (maybe this year, but it is said at... )... then yeah...
Hi all,It's been a while since I posted here or anywhere about my giant SF2 project, but I just wanted to post a few videos showing some of the characters that are in the 80-90% completed range. There are missing frames here and there in the vids, and I don't have my SF2 lifebars showing (I do have them). I've got many, many more, but want to make sure they animate smoothly enough before I post anything. Rufus and C. Viper are coming soon. If anyone is interested, I'm still looking for help creating/implementing an appropriate select screen in IKEMEN GO. Specifically, I want the plane flying across the screen (like in SF5 but with SF2 graphics), the announcer to call out the country, then the portraits versing each other pre-match, and the loss portrait/quote after the match before repeating. Just wanting to recreate the SF2 experience as much as possible but with characters from every other SF game. https://youtu.be/9ubh7WCMVIg Heihachihttps://youtu.be/w0WtO6AFx7Q Leehttps://youtu.be/I2yHn8TH8WI Sodomhttps://youtu.be/M1mBJeUw0Os Terry https://youtu.be/D4N7W6D3Lbo Damndhttps://youtu.be/8j5_CvDXccU Danhttps://youtu.be/Ke1ucp3gkEA Eaglehttps://youtu.be/dL581AjWwbU Fei Longhttps://youtu.be/paRs-4_iHzY Adonhttps://youtu.be/uz5lk4cHdvo Birdie
oraora? said, April 01, 2025, 10:51:08 amvery cool project seeing modern street fighter characters in sf2 sprite style Thank you, sir. I moved all of the videos to YouTube since they apparently weren't visible in DailyMotion.
Those videos you presented are pretty nice to see in action, with the other characters rendered in SF2 style. And from what I’m getting on page 1, the characters not included in this project will be:* Any character from the Marvel vs. series, as it has completely different gameplay* Any character from the Tatsunoko vs. series, as it has the same gameplay as Marvel* Anyone from SF the Movie (Arcade), as it has radically different, less balanced gameplay* Morrigan (CvS 1/2)* Mega Man (SFxT)* Pac-Man (SFxT)* Toro & Kuro (SFxT)* Cole & Evil Cole (SFxT)* Possibly the historical-based SNK characters from CvS (Haohmaru, Nakoruru, Hibiki)* Most if not all of the SvC Chaos roster* Possibly the story mode enemy characters post-SF1Which would give you still a solid roster to pick from.
