Aren't these traced from JUS?

[Lunchbillion]

I stumbled upon some sprites from a cellphone fighting game of Avatar: The Last Airbender.
I'm almost positive these are traced Jump Ultimate Stars sprites!
Take a look for yourself: http://sdb.drshnaps.com/game.php?game=1985

[Randomish]

I just dont see it.

Maybe you could post sprites as comparison?

[Lunchbillion]

I couldn't be bothered searching through a whole bunch of characters but here's a start.

[Titiln]

hahahahaha nice job

[Duo Solo]

lol, thats hilarious.

[NiO ErZeBeTh]

haha nice...
they same really familiar, not exactly the same, but really close to be equals (position)

[Cybaster]

Well, maybe they didn't trace over, but used the proportions and animations as reference, a bit like SeanAltly does to sprite his characters : totally new sprites from scratch, but using other chars from SF/KOF as reference for the animation.

Good job finding that.

[Iced]

That would still make them traces as far as animation goes, tracing the motion is tracing the original work of someone.

[MirageAtoli]

That would still make them traces as far as animation goes, tracing the motion is tracing the original work of someone.

True, but you can't really copyright the movement of the human body and its anatomy.

[Iced]

True, but you can't really copyright the movement of the human body and its anatomy.

That doesnt mean you cant prove that someone else used YOUR work when doing those and thus would be unable to do them without your presence.

If you animate a short about whatever, lets say, gorillas, then along comes someone and traces over robots, you can still get them for having used your work as a base.
If it can bbe shown that your work was the base for the movement, so yeah, this fits. motion is so important that disney used to copy their dance acts from movie to movie, due to how expensive it was to develop them from scratch.


if you could just claim property of the motion of any file you would have a ton more "copyrighted" games.
If anything, at times the companies choose not to persecute it, it doesnt mean its legal.

[MirageAtoli]

That doesn't mean you cant prove that someone else used YOUR work when doing those and thus would be unable to do them without your presence.

True; Nobody can argue that.

If you animate a short about whatever, lets say, gorillas, then along comes someone and traces over robots, you can still get them for having used your work as a base.

Yes and no.

You can't claim copy-right to an uppercut or a basic punch, you can claim copyright to the specific artwork done.

   Wide stance -> Extend fist

A creative work (a specific drawing) can be copyrighted, a method or technical process (extending a fist a certain way as a method of punching would need to be patented).

On a tangently related note, there has been an attempt to patent yoga positions. If that goes/went through, you would need a license to use those patented position or draw them in that context.

You can copyright your drawing of a stick figure, you can't copyright the act of drawing a stick figure. You can copyright your drawing of a character you own punching, you can't copyright the act of drawing a punch with muscles in a certain position.

If your drawing of the punch is unique enough it could become your trademark.

[Kaze Masamune]

I'm sorry but is this really being debated? I really didn't expect to see a debate on what constitutes copyright in a thread that's in the wrong forum that is pointing out amazing similarities between The Last Airbender sprites and JUS ones.

The animations are heavily influenced/traced from JUS. You can't copyright a pose. You can't even copyright a sequence of poses. If that were the case, we'd have copyright infringements coming out of the wazoo. Do you know how many fighting game characters punch and kick in exactly the same way?

Hell, the guy that did The White Lion didn't even try to sue Disney for blatantly using his movie as a basis for a few scenes in The Lion King. Why? Cause it's a ridiculous argument. Disney denied it, whatever.

[Jesuszilla]

No, because Disney are titans who could easily crush him.



Just like Nintendo (yes, Nintendo was in charge of JSS/JUS) could easily crush the guy who traced these sprites. Look at the hit high frame for fuck's sake, if the artist knew what they were doing, the right (artist's left) hand wouldn't look like a claw.

[TRUEMicah]

Offtopic:
Holy sh$t, Aang sprites?!
I can use these, thanks alot.. I think

[Jesuszilla]

Just trace Choujin's Goku sprites. It would probably look better than this crap.

[Tsunamidusher]

[TRUEMicah]

Laziness talking: But wouldn't they at least make a good base?

[Iced]

You must be joking.
both those scenes are homages to a bruce lee movie by copying exactly a classic scene.
BOTH CHARS ARE HOMAGES TO BRUCE LEE TOO.

GARGLE.


Homage is not the same as copying, as you dont homage by completly tracing something!!!
Two persons can have a 46º angle punch with spaced legs, that doesnt mean they are both TRACED FROM ONE ANOTHER.
ROB LIEFELD WASNT HOMAGING ANYONE WHEN HE TRACED ARTWORK, now WAS GREG LAND!!


If everything was like you guys are saying, no one would hire new artists, they would just hire tracers that would fully trace over disney movies and re sell them.

SHIT LETS BE SANTA! I could just grab a leonardo di caprio movie and DRAW a new face over the actor there and suddenly I would have ALL THE COPYRIGHTS ALL OF THEM.
Arguing that its just tracing over and suddenly it belongs to you is a vyx level argument.

[Duo Solo]

Somebody is mad.

BTW, post the Bruce Lee scene.

[Iced]

YES IM MAD.

CRAP DONT RECALL THE BRUCE LEE SCENE BY NAME, if anyone remembers what movie it was, please do post.