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Whoever did Robert's 2k3 sprite set should die in fire! >=( (Read 5817 times)

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Whoever did Robert's 2k3 sprite set should die in fire! >=(
#1  November 26, 2009, 03:10:49 pm
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Hi, I'm writing here to express my hate toward two persons, persons that I haven't meet, and don't even know their names.
The guy who sprited Robert for The King of Fighters 2003, and the guy who approved that work and put it in game as is.

I am completely aware that I'm not the best spriter in the world, nor in this forum (Madre is here, YA know), maybe I'm not even the best in my house (my brother has skills), neither I go for perfection all the time (just check my english), but when something is THIS BAD, no, when something is THIS ANNOYINGLY BAD... no, no, when something is THIS ANNOYINGLY NEGLIGENTLY OBVIOUSLY BAD, I need to rise my voice.


First, as you see there, Robert is somehow smaller in this incarnation, not as small as he was in '96, but he is smaller, I'm not saying that is a bad thing, I would be fine with that if it was the same fucking size in the whole set, but no, here we are watching the worst sprite set in the history of KOF.


Look I'm small.


Look I'm tall.


Look... Am I a Dwarf?

The crappyness of this work is evident on the new animations, is not just that they're unfinished, some of them are terribly wrong, check the LDM sprites.


Respect human morfology... WHY?

Inconsistensy is one of the words that came to my mind, and I'm not talking only about size, RUBAART change costumes in the middle of an animation, on the fly, beat that Shang Fucking Tsung! AND, they dont even leave the rest on a decent state, check, the foot is the same (no matter how shadowed the rest of the leg was) in the first part, porpotions is changing madly in time, on this really, really crappy animation.


Remember the stripes he use to have on his arms, not here.

Ok, I know that the above was a bit nit picking and I am overreacting, yes, I'm guilty... but... In the name of christ, how the hell and unfinished sprite set end up in an internationally released game with bazillions of fans all over the world?


Copy pasted body parts FTW


Moved body parts (yeah, just selected and moved one pixel)


Broken knee LOOKS NAIS

And we finally arrive to this, this sums it all, if this guy weren't fired for this, he can kill the CEO of SNKP and eat his limbs and nothing will happen to him.
It is completely flawed, it is so wrong that I couldn't fix it without reworking it entirely, and it is because of it that I am writing this, the only time that I have seen something this awful in a comercial game, was when people crack 3D games and switch models, after that, nothing, NOTHING ever looked this flawed, not even missporpotioned Street Fighter 2 crappy sprites.


The design may like you, the character may like you, but this work on the character is awful, its easy to see why they didn't put this Robert in XI, it needs a lot of work to make it look decent.
That’s when I thought, “good grief”
Just ain’t my belief
Until I saw the holes
Inside his hand
Last Edit: November 26, 2009, 08:49:39 pm by Thedge

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#2  November 26, 2009, 03:13:50 pm
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I always preferred NGBC/XI robert anyway, does he have any flaws?

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#3  November 26, 2009, 03:23:43 pm
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Do yamazaki next plz.

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#4  November 26, 2009, 03:25:39 pm
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No, NGBC/XI set is perfect, I'm basing my work on those now, to hell with this shit.
That’s when I thought, “good grief”
Just ain’t my belief
Until I saw the holes
Inside his hand

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#5  November 26, 2009, 05:59:44 pm
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#6  November 26, 2009, 06:02:12 pm
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Yeah snk dropped the ball on the yuri  update for 2003 too.I could have sworn she had old sprites in her set mixed with new.Still Robert's 03 gameplay was solid IMO.
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#7  November 26, 2009, 08:39:02 pm
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Respect human morfology
style?

A little (???) too picky criticism (wow being critique on criticism, that's a new level), Thedge. The work on kof2003 sprites looks good imho. Animations look new, smooth and overall graphics (bg and the rest) is very well done to me.

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#8  November 26, 2009, 11:22:19 pm
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#9  November 26, 2009, 11:30:35 pm
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filler frames.

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#10  November 26, 2009, 11:30:47 pm
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You're really picky.

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#11  November 27, 2009, 12:02:25 am
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interesting detailed explanation but damn you are really picky, how many you taked for see all that??  :S
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#12  November 27, 2009, 12:09:18 am
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How many? Man, he's made a conversion of anywhere from 30 to 50 or 100 of 2K3 moves into 2K2 clothing. He knows his shit. Really picky? This is unacceptable, as a spriter I'd feel ashamed to try to pass that as a final product. And I'd bet good money Thedge feels the same way.

Don't y'all niggas be saying like "oh picky crybaby". For the record, I respect Thedge a lot, he's shown continuously that he knows his spriting, and more than likely he's made more sprite edits than I have at this point ::)

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#13  November 27, 2009, 12:19:16 am
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Are you high ? Breaking the human body is not SNK's usual style.
I didn't see much perfection in the previous series works, according to my perception of human proportion, light source, etc. Those sprites weren't perfect in all the previous KoF editions, imho. They were stylish.
Who wants can fix those sprites and send them to SNK (btw do they still accept their open source spritesheets?). 
Last Edit: November 27, 2009, 12:23:15 am by mulambo

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#14  November 27, 2009, 12:31:07 am
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KOFC [walt] said, November 27, 2009, 12:09:18 am
Really picky? This is unacceptable, as a spriter I'd feel ashamed to try to pass that as a final product. And I'd bet good money Thedge feels the same way.
And as someone who's no good at anything, I'd be dancing in the street with glee if I could come up with anything even half as good as the sprites in the OP on my own time, let alone as an underpaid employee on a deadline.

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#15  November 27, 2009, 12:48:01 am
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And as someone who's no good at anything, I'd be dancing in the street with glee if I could come up with anything even half as good as a failed heart operation on my own time, let alone as an underpaid doctor.

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#16  November 27, 2009, 12:53:14 am
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so, I readed all this stuff just to find this pic at the end?!



this clearly says ALL about the BAD WORK done there :sadgoi:

missing stripes, a copy-paste foot, broken, and spike in his ass?!

you are really picky you know!! :P
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#17  November 27, 2009, 01:06:09 am
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Cyan Paul said, November 27, 2009, 12:48:01 am
And as someone who's no good at anything, I'd be dancing in the street with glee if I could come up with anything even half as good as a failed heart operation on my own time, let alone as an underpaid doctor.
...Are you honestly trying to compare spritework and surgery on an equal footing? :S

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#18  November 27, 2009, 01:15:28 am
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Yes, because both the spriter and the doctor are getting paid for what they do, so they should do it right.

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#19  November 27, 2009, 01:22:19 am
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this would be a good addition to SprAc... could I put it there?... (since you are no longer into the site for now)
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#20  November 27, 2009, 01:34:32 am
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Cyan Paul said, November 27, 2009, 01:15:28 am
Yes, because both the spriter and the doctor are getting paid for what they do, so they should do it right.

is not exactly the same because you can get lazy spriting something but you can't get lazy during an operation when you the life of someone is in your hands

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