The Mugen Fighters Guild - Midnight Bliss and Shock Project

Xenomic

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project (Shock Project revived!)

#421 May 11, 2012, 12:05:51 am

T.G. "Thunder God" Xenomic

So now I come to you guys for criticism on this sprite! This is to help improve it, whether it be the sprite itself, or if a different base should be used or what.

The sprite in question:

Mystia Lorelei by ANTI-COSUMO:

Bases are: Hotaru, Angel, Shermie, Red Arremer (for wings)

The reference image(s):

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From one of my friends that has critiqued the sprite, he states that the pose is too manly and doesn't look womanly enough, and that it doesn't have that "Mystia feel" to it. He doesn't know how to explain that last part. Also of mention, he states that the abs are too "six-packed". That's what he says...

My only criticism is that the wings don't look right and the abs.

What is everyone else's opinions on this? Should there be a different base used? Anything to touch up on on this sprite?

Also, if anyone wants to touch up on the sprite themselves, or try this in a different base/height, go for it! The Midnight Blisses will be coming in now to make up for the long time of no Midnight Blisses!

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Lichtbringer

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project (Shock Project revived!)

#422 May 18, 2012, 12:19:30 am

If I look at the reference image, I would say the wings on the sprite you made are to big, maybe using Wings from Morrigan/Lilith and editing them a bit would work.

Btw. Picturelinks to some Midnight Bliss and Shock Project sprites are broken.

And it's sad that the Users who vote for this Project don't posting something here.

Xenomic

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project (Shock Project revived!)

#423 May 18, 2012, 12:25:41 am

T.G. "Thunder God" Xenomic

If you're referring to images earlier in the topic, those are probably because they got deleted a long time ago (considering this topic is about 4 years old ^^; )

As for the sprite (I did not make it, ANTI-COSUMO did), I am waiting on his updates to it and a couple others to see what he's doing with it.

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Lichtbringer

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project (Shock Project revived!)

#424 May 20, 2012, 10:14:31 pm

Reimu Hakurei said, May 18, 2012, 12:25:41 am

If you're referring to images earlier in the topic, those are probably because they got deleted a long time ago (considering this topic is about 4 years old ^^; )

As for the sprite (I did not make it, ANTI-COSUMO did), I am waiting on his updates to it and a couple others to see what he's doing with it.

Ah ok sorry i overread that ANTI-COSUMO did it.^^

Xenomic

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project (Shock Project revived!)

#425 May 23, 2012, 09:10:51 pm

T.G. "Thunder God" Xenomic

Ok, so right now I am trying to find all of the SVC Chaos and CJF/CFE Midnight Bliss sprites to compile into this project. I remember finding at the very least the SVC Chaos MBs long long ago, but I for the life of me cannot find them anymore. If anyone can help me track down either or both of these (I need ALL of them...), that would be much appreciated. I'll be adding them to the project mostly as resources (as well as more Shocks, which if they're from actual games, will be added to the resource thread, which I should probably link in the first post)

Keep in mind that this topic is pretty old and hasn't been updated in years, mostly due to lack of well...updating. I have a few more resources that can be added to it, but there's still some that I don't have any of at all...zounds.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=92682.0 ).

So yeah, no updates on the project itself as this is mostly a "Help with finding sprites" kinda thing (SVC Chaos/CFJ Midnight Blisses, and various Shock sprites). Anyone that can help me out, would be MUCH appreciated ^^;;

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Xenomic

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project (Shock Project revived!)

#426 May 24, 2012, 02:13:29 am

T.G. "Thunder God" Xenomic

Ok, so thanks to Chamat, I got almost all of the SVC Chaos Midnight Blisses, save for Dan right now (and probably Shin Akuma now that I think about it). I also got several of the CFJ MBs from him as well, but am still missing the following:

Shin Akuma (both forms)
Karin
Sakura
Rose (both)
Kenji (both)
Demitri (the one exclusive to this game)
Alex (I might have the second form in my external actually)

Once I get those, I'll add them all together into a release pack for resources for MBs from OFFICIAL games. Yes, OFFICIAL, not MUGEN, so that people can well...use them I suppose (not that anything's stopping em from using anyone else's stuff). So that pack will include all of the Midnight Blisses from Darkstalkers (still gotta get some here actually, namely Anakaris and Dee, but I doubt I'll ever get all of Dee's Midnight Bliss sprites...I don't even have one), Capcom Fighting Jam/Evolution, and SVC Chaos. Cross Edge MAY get some stuff added in here from Spriter's Resource, but again, some of the stuff from the spritesheets there have to be put together, and well...unless someone wants to do that for me, then I ain't gonna add those particular Midnight Blisses in. Note that I also include the first stand sprite of the character themselves, then all of the Midnight Bliss sprites, as a way to see the changes and palettes and all that good stuff.

So yeah, there's that little update to that. All of these will be posted in this thread as well (should there be a Resource thread on the site for them like how there is for the Shock sprites at the current time?) when it comes time to release the pack. At least I'm doing SOMETHING myself, even if it isn't spriting, right!? I-I'm not THAT useless now! T-T

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Xenomic

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project (Shock Project revived!)

#427 May 24, 2012, 09:57:19 am

T.G. "Thunder God" Xenomic

Alright, so time to post some stuff I found during my searching of the net! Some of these date pretty far back (some to 2008). Let's begin shall we? Mind you, this is going to be a BIG post....

These all came from some forum that I don't recall now...if you cannot guess who is who it goes in this order: Andy Bogard, Ash Crimson, Billy Kane, Yuki (from Last Blade), and Yuri Sakazaki. There were more but ehhh. Didn't think they were worth grabbing. I COULD try to find em again if I'm lucky, but probably won't...@_@

The next 3 came from a Mugenchina thread back in 2008, from a user named ricardotbest. I remember talking to this guy (he was gonna help but he randomly disappeared). Sadly, these are all in JPG format, so in order for them to even be useful to the project (since I'm going to adopt them into it like the above), they'll need retouched upon in PNG if anyone wants to give that a go.

The three are Iroha (maid into maid? Sure, why not!?), Sissy (from dat one game), and Gato Futaba.

Now, there ARE a couple other Midnight Blisses that I got, but one is a bit inappropriate methinks to post on the forums, and the other isn't that great. However, I did come across a couple other things from a Japanese imageboard (I'm not saying which...I'm not putting anyone here through the hell of going through that board...let's just say it's NOT something for regular people unless you mental block EVERYTHING out...;_;)

Ya know, I've only really seen maybe one or two Lens that have a shock animation, but it's just the EFZ styled version. This one I actually like as it seems more unique (does it use any original sprites?). Also, only Len I've seen with the Burn and Frozen sprites too (no other Lens that I know of ever had these). And of course, that barrel special from Unknown and the buttered food of doom.

This one actually caught me by surprise, as well...you don't ever see Sangue=Passare like ever. And for it to be on a hi-res character...of course, considering it's a female, that seems to be, as I expected, the most obvious place for people to go with this. Sure, this has nothing to do with Midnight Blisses or Shocks, but thought I'd share. Keep in mind that once upon a time, this project was going to have Burn and Sangue=Passare too!

Next, thanks to Chamat, here....have the SVC Chaos and CFJ Midnight Blisses! Or what he could get of them thus far...I haven't had the time to look for the others nor get the ones remaining from any MUGEN characters...so if anyone wants to get to that, go for it!

SVC Chaos:

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Capcom Fighting Jam/Evolution:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

I could post up what I have for Darkstalkers and Cross Edge in here too. Should I go ahead and do that for ya guys? For Cross Edge, I'd just post the sheet that has the Midnight Bliss on it (some of them are just too much a pain in the ass to put together so....).

So yeah, there's that. Again, dunno if you guys want a resource topic for these official sprites or not (I might just biomerge the Shock resource topic with the Midnight Bliss one...). I'll also get the shocks that I don't have yet for that project later.

Whew, that was a doozy! And to think, there's going to be a LOT more coming soon! All of them being official stuff at that! Still looking for anyone willing to accept those challenges too! @_@

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Last Edit: May 24, 2012, 10:00:39 am by Reimu Hakurei

FeLo_Llop

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project (Shock Project revived!)

#428 May 24, 2012, 10:03:21 am

¡Ni p*ta ni santa! ¡Digo!

Rose shock and MB? Use mine if you want

I swear there was something cool here!!

Xenomic

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project (Shock Project revived!)

#429 May 24, 2012, 10:05:16 am

T.G. "Thunder God" Xenomic

If you wanna toss em my way here, that'd be fine. I'm still going to need to get Rose's official ones anyways though in the end, but the more the merrier!

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Xenomic

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project (Special Request for Spriter)

#430 May 29, 2012, 10:05:24 pm

T.G. "Thunder God" Xenomic

Hello everyone~ Today, I have nothing to show, but I do have a special request for anyone who is willing to do a bit of spriting for me. This actually is only needed for ONE sprite (unless you want to do the entire shock animation), and for a person's character (not MUGEN related actually. He/she came to me to request a shock for his/her original character, and would like for someone to make a shock animation for it. Again, all I'd need is the initial part, not the X-Ray part unless you would like to do that as well). I have the description and artwork if anyone wants to give it a go, as the shock is meant to be unique (the character wears all rubber latex stuff, and the idea was that during the shock, you'll still see the skeleton, but only in areas NOT covered by the latex).

So yeah, there's that. If you are interested in helping in fulfilling this request, please drop me a PM as I'd rather share the artwork that way (I'd rather not make the artwork public as well...the person would rather me not do so). Can I pay you to do this? Of course not! I'm a broke, broke man! Also, person never specified the sprite style, so there's no restriction on that I suppose...

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F. James Fernandez

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project (Shock Project revived!)

#431 May 29, 2012, 10:20:12 pm

I'm a empty vessel seeking to be filled.

Its just funny, you would think that something as simple as this people would just jump on it. Especially when its less than 5 frames. just sad. If I had the time I would just do all known characters lol

Xenomic

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project (Shock Project revived!)

#432 May 29, 2012, 10:23:21 pm

T.G. "Thunder God" Xenomic

Especially considering that shocks are a lot easier than Midnight Blisses at that (well, even that goes up to 5-6 frames, which in itself is a lot shorter than a lot of animations I think, or at the very least making a big spritesheet or character). I dunno, maybe people aren't that interested in making em or something

Hopefully someone decides to do this one though. The idea behind it sounds unique and all that, and like stated, I'd only need one sprite for it at that (2 at the very most if they do the entire thing). @_@

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F. James Fernandez

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project (Shock Project revived!)

#433 May 29, 2012, 10:28:53 pm

I'm a empty vessel seeking to be filled.

People are just too used to frankenspriting and making characters over sprites that were already made (sounds the same to me

) . Might be the reason they dont want to touch this and do a bad job of it.

Xenomic

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project (Shock Project revived!)

#434 May 29, 2012, 10:31:33 pm

T.G. "Thunder God" Xenomic

Well, this project is meant to be a community thing too, and as a way to learn to sprite better as well (learn things like anatomy, positioning, etc....which I guess you can learn just as well from anything else but ya know?). A way to improve their spriting skills, per say savvy? Dunno how many see it actually that way though. @_@

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Veanko

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project (Shock Project revived!)

#435 June 15, 2012, 12:49:11 am

i am loyal to you unless you disagree with me

i decided to try doing midnight bliss and frozen sprites for suika. however. since i have never done spriteing before. i don't think they are too good.

Spoiler because my horrible spriteing skills may burn your eyes.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

i didn't really "sprite" per say. i just drew on already existing sprites.

i think the frozen sprite is better. though. that is probably because doing frozen sprites is easier then doing a midnight bliss.

feel free to use them if you really want them that much

something looks a little off...

My youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/TVeanko

Xenomic

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project (Shock Project revived!)

#436 June 15, 2012, 01:00:03 am

T.G. "Thunder God" Xenomic

Yeah, the Midnight Bliss really does need a lot more work, but as you said, that requires a lot more spriting skill to deal with than say, a frozen sprite lol. The frozen sprite is alright...might add that in maybe.

(Truth be told, I still have no idea what would be a "suitable" Midnight Bliss for Suika at all...I've even looked for reference images and all that for her, and haven't come up with a single thing. @_@ )

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Veanko

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project (Shock Project revived!)

#437 June 15, 2012, 05:54:41 pm

i am loyal to you unless you disagree with me

yeah. my spriting skills aren't exactly the best. i think frozen sprites are the only thing i can do for now. until i get better.

i heard that a midnight bliss doesn't really need to make a whole lot of sense.

anyway. i did a frozen sprite for dee bee kaw. if anyones interstead.

i put it along side suikas frozen sprite. just because.

tell me what you think and how i can improve.

something looks a little off...

My youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/TVeanko

Xenomic

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project (Shock Project revived!)

#438 June 15, 2012, 09:57:05 pm

T.G. "Thunder God" Xenomic

I would say take a look at other frozen sprites and learn from those, but I can't say who all has them per say. I know Anamochi's site (NSFW though if you don't know about it) has some frozen sprites on there that you could probably take a look at; otherwise, there's a few Marvel characters that have them as well (though different than what Anamochi does).

Yeah, Midnight Bliss doesn't HAVE to make a whole lot of sense, but I try to keep it as closely related to the character as possible. Not ALWAYS obviously, since for Mina's Midnight Bliss I'm thinking of going with Mabinogi's Nao (they seem similar enough in appearance sans skin color) and Yuri's Midnight Bliss is Seong Mi-na, but close enough!

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Xenomic

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project (Shock Project revived!)

#439 June 18, 2012, 01:16:55 am

T.G. "Thunder God" Xenomic

Hey there everyone! Today...well, no sprites to show, but I do have some news! I have finally updated my Midnight Bliss gallery on my website with everything that I have thus far (well, ALMOST everything. I omitted some things since well...they don't need to be shown).

http://xenomic.freehostia.com/pages/Midnight_Bliss.php

I'm no expert at HTML coding, so this is the best I can do with presenting stuff on here. If anyone has a better way of doing so (and knows how to do HTML coding), that'd help with setting this up a lot better. I'll be getting to the Shocks here soon (will probably expand this to include other optional animations, as per the front page), and then well...the rest is up to either myself or others to fill in the rest. I know I'm still missing a LOT of sprites just for Midnight Bliss alone (including the Official Games still. I got a few of them but not all of them, and Cross-Edge I still haven't touched yet). So yeah...if anyone can at least get what I'm missing, whether it be from MUGEN characters or from sprite rips or something, feel free to do so!

On that note, I DID try to get the sprites for Darkstalkers on Spriter's Resource, but opening that sheet in any program for me messes it up badly for some reason...;_;

Feel free to contribute anything that's not on the site yet, whether it be for missing Midnight Blisses and Shocks, Burns, Freeze, Sangue=Passare...etc, etc. Hell, I'm ALMOST tempted to make a section on my site just for MUGEN standards, and having an example of each from specific games (i.e. Shocks in Street Fighter vs. Darkstalkers vs. Gowcaizer, or Burn in Street Fighter vs Darkstalkers vs whatever other games), though that's a big IF and might require even more assistance in that department.

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Xenomic

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project (Shock Project revived!)

#440 June 18, 2012, 09:35:08 am

T.G. "Thunder God" Xenomic

http://xenomic.freehostia.com/pages/Shock.php

So yeah...I apparently managed to get this done in one day compared to how long Midnight Bliss took to do. For some reason, there's FAR less Shocks than Midnight Blisses, which is actually kinda scary, considering that Shocks are, I would think, much easier to do than Midnight Blisses. Oh well! Yes, there's still a LOT missing from here, ESPECIALLY from the official games (things such as TMNT IV, King of Monsters, Simpsons Arcade, etc.) and some from MUGEN (obviously unreleased stuff such as Dcat's Krang and the update for Jessica Albert, as well as some other stuff that's out there, but I probably don't know even has it). So once again, if you can contribute to this part as well, that'd be swell! I may try to get some sprites from spritesheets into separate sprites to upload as well (I have one thing for Captain Commando, a few for King of the Monsters, Maria's shock from Castlevania, etc.), but just like with Cross Edge's Midnight Blisses, that may take a while...

So...do you guys think I should add more sections to the site for the other states or no? Some of those WILL be a major pain to get though...maybe...I don't know.

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