The Mugen Fighters Guild - Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

Nanashi_1337

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

#81 September 27, 2012, 07:48:40 pm

Unity of Hearts

(det∇ϕ(x))²-µ(λ+µ/θ)/∂Ω said, September 27, 2012, 04:07:04 pm

The sprites were never sold. Garuda paid CVSNB as a commission for making fanart. The sprites are free to use.
You know absolutely nothing of fanart and what it is to be an artist in general. Go on Deviantart and look at all the commissions that are done there. If you like an artist, you go ask him to draw Goku from Dragon Ball VS Luffy from One Piece, you give him 10$, he makes the art and puts it on Deviantart. There's no problem with this. There is no "copyright infringement". This is what's been done for years now. Artists are just asking for some money for the time they spend, it's not making money on the back of the copyright owner.

Your mission is going to fail, you won't get justice. Just read the quote, please.

Cybaster

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

#82 September 27, 2012, 07:52:21 pm

Limited time to use Infinite power !

What justice is he trying to get anyway ? What's the point of this holy crusade ? Who is he trying to avenge ? Why is he lonely against everybody and still doesn't get it ? How can one be so stupid ? Should we sue his parents for conceiving so much stupidity ? Can he sue me for revealing the sad truth ? Did he copyright his stupid posts ?

Zantetsuken

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

#83 September 27, 2012, 07:54:14 pm

Mugenite

I have no problem with the commission just charging for the commission.

Capcom owns Gouken, Capcom can charge for Gouken.

Nobody else can because Capcom owns the copyright.

I feel like I'm talking in a foreign launguage here.

I rock

Cybaster

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

#84 September 27, 2012, 07:55:32 pm

Limited time to use Infinite power !

. . . . .

Jmorphman

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

#85 September 27, 2012, 07:57:29 pm

If you’re gonna reach for a star...
reach for the lowest one you can.

Zantetsuken said, September 27, 2012, 07:54:14 pm

Capcom owns Gouken, Capcom can charge for Gouken.

Nobody else can because Capcom owns the copyright.

No one is charging for Gouken. Cvsnb was charging for his time and effort spent spriting. He just happened to be spriting a character Capcom owns. That's it.

Zantetsuken said, September 27, 2012, 07:54:14 pm

I feel like I'm talking in a foreign launguage here.

Oh trust me, we all know the feeling.

Nanashi_1337

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

#86 September 27, 2012, 08:03:54 pm

Unity of Hearts

(det∇ϕ(x))²-µ(λ+µ/θ)/∂Ω said, September 27, 2012, 04:07:04 pm

The sprites were never sold. Garuda paid CVSNB as a commission for making fanart. The sprites are free to use.
You know absolutely nothing of fanart and what it is to be an artist in general. Go on Deviantart and look at all the commissions that are done there. If you like an artist, you go ask him to draw Goku from Dragon Ball VS Luffy from One Piece, you give him 10$, he makes the art and puts it on Deviantart. There's no problem with this. There is no "copyright infringement". This is what's been done for years now. Artists are just asking for some money for the time they spend, it's not making money on the back of the copyright owner.

You're right, it appears you're talking a different language than us. Look, this is really simple. What Garuda payed was CvsAbstract for creating something he wanted. What he's paying for is for the job. The results of that job, as long as they're free or kept private, shouldn't go against any copyright infrigement. Because this is considered to be fanart. If Garuda tried to sell those sprites, then you would perhaps have a reason to do that (but I highly doubt Capcom would care about this too). But that's not what's happening.

God, if you're complaining about this, then you may as well just take down Deviantart, because that's how it works too for commissions done there.

GOH

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

#87 September 27, 2012, 08:10:03 pm

Zantetsuken Vs. Every Gouken Depiction On The Internet

Cybaster

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

#88 September 27, 2012, 08:11:10 pm

Limited time to use Infinite power !

nanachi, ur post iz 2 long, Zentastankles doesn't understood angliche.

Zantetsuken

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

#89 September 27, 2012, 08:20:50 pm

Mugenite

Mr. Scratch! said, September 27, 2012, 08:10:03 pm

Zantetsuken Vs. Every Gouken Depiction On The Internet

No Vs People who claim money for works that don't belong to them.

I rock

Jmorphman

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

#90 September 27, 2012, 08:23:16 pm

If you’re gonna reach for a star...
reach for the lowest one you can.

Yep, Cvsnb's sprites don't belong to him, he didn't do any work on them at all!

Hyogo

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

#91 September 27, 2012, 08:24:27 pm

Holy BRAP

Zantetsuken said, September 27, 2012, 08:20:50 pm

No Vs People who claim money for works that don't belong to them.

This is why I love the Internet :I

Nanashi_1337

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

#92 September 27, 2012, 08:25:00 pm

Unity of Hearts

(det∇ϕ(x))²-µ(λ+µ/θ)/∂Ω said, September 27, 2012, 04:07:04 pm

The sprites were never sold. Garuda paid CVSNB as a commission for making fanart. The sprites are free to use.
You know absolutely nothing of fanart and what it is to be an artist in general. Go on Deviantart and look at all the commissions that are done there. If you like an artist, you go ask him to draw Goku from Dragon Ball VS Luffy from One Piece, you give him 10$, he makes the art and puts it on Deviantart. There's no problem with this. There is no "copyright infringement". This is what's been done for years now. Artists are just asking for some money for the time they spend, it's not making money on the back of the copyright owner.

*sigh* At this point I would normally think that you're the greatest troll ever. But I know you since you joined, and you've been both a terrible poster and a White Knight. So most likely we will keep talking from different planes of existance. Just do whatever you want, really. I'm 100% sure you won't achieve anything.

Garuda

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

#93 September 27, 2012, 08:25:17 pm

There is a demente in everyone!

Ok, at this point I have to tell everybody the truth:

I didn't pay CvS for Gouken.

It was all set up so people would follow my example and commission him some art/sprites.

Now please stop this nonsense: since no money is involved there isn't problem, right Zan?

Zantetsuken

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

#94 September 27, 2012, 08:26:13 pm

Mugenite

Jmorphman said, September 27, 2012, 08:23:16 pm

Yep, Cvsnb's sprites don't belong to him, he didn't do any work on them at all!

Never said that. The copyright belongs to Capcom hence they are the only ones who can legally charge for them.

Why is it so difficult to grasp that simple concept?

I rock

Byakko

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

#95 September 27, 2012, 08:27:37 pm

Zantetsuken said, September 27, 2012, 08:26:13 pm

The copyright belongs to Capcom hence they are the only ones who can legally charge for them.

Why is it so difficult to grasp that simple concept?

Nobody is selling Capcom's intellectual property. Nobody is selling something that belongs to Capcom. What do you find hard to understand here ? What are the words that you don't understand ?

If I struggled to the end of my determination, to the end of my way of life with my followers, if the result is ruin, then this ruin is inevitable. Grieve. Shed tears. But you cannot regret.

Jmorphman

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

#96 September 27, 2012, 08:28:11 pm

If you’re gonna reach for a star...
reach for the lowest one you can.

Nanashi_1337 said, September 27, 2012, 08:25:00 pm

*sigh* At this point I would normally think that you're the greatest troll ever. But I know you since you joined, and you've been both a terrible poster and a White Knight. So most likely we will keep talking from different planes of existance. Just do whatever you want, really. I'm 100% sure you won't achieve anything.

Uhh, you're replying to Zantetsuken, right? Then why do you keep quoting Cybaster?

Byakko

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

#97 September 27, 2012, 08:29:00 pm

He said earlier that everytime Zantetsuken would say something ignoring Cyb's reply, he would post Cyb's reply again and again, until Zan reads it.

If I struggled to the end of my determination, to the end of my way of life with my followers, if the result is ruin, then this ruin is inevitable. Grieve. Shed tears. But you cannot regret.

Hero

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

#98 September 27, 2012, 08:29:32 pm

Nanashi_1337

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

#99 September 27, 2012, 08:30:11 pm

Unity of Hearts

(det∇ϕ(x))²-µ(λ+µ/θ)/∂Ω said, September 27, 2012, 04:07:04 pm

The sprites were never sold. Garuda paid CVSNB as a commission for making fanart. The sprites are free to use.
You know absolutely nothing of fanart and what it is to be an artist in general. Go on Deviantart and look at all the commissions that are done there. If you like an artist, you go ask him to draw Goku from Dragon Ball VS Luffy from One Piece, you give him 10$, he makes the art and puts it on Deviantart. There's no problem with this. There is no "copyright infringement". This is what's been done for years now. Artists are just asking for some money for the time they spend, it's not making money on the back of the copyright owner.

Yeah, I wonder what's so hard to understand that you're unable to grasp it.

And I can see how you kept having selective blindness to posts that are informing you about why your argument is wrong. You and another certain user would turn into sworn brothers if you met.

And yeah, what Byakko said to answer you, Jmorphman.

Jmorphman

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

#100 September 27, 2012, 08:30:45 pm

If you’re gonna reach for a star...
reach for the lowest one you can.

Zantetsuken said, September 27, 2012, 08:26:13 pm

Never said that. The copyright belongs to Capcom hence they are the only ones who can legally charge for them.

Why is it so difficult to grasp that simple concept?

Cvsnb isn't charging for the copyright, he's charging for HIS OWN WORK.

WHY IS THIS SO DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO GRASP THIS SIMPLE CONCEPT
THIS IS HOW IT WORKS LITERALLY EVERYWHERE ELSE

DKDC said, September 27, 2012, 08:29:00 pm

He said earlier that everytime Zantetsuken would say something ignoring Cyb's reply, he would post Cyb's reply again and again, until Zan reads it.

Ah, I see.

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