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"I was expecting _____" posts in release topics

#1 July 31, 2012, 06:23:33 am

Palette God? Champion? AntiChrist? Something.
I AM THE KING OF PALETTES!!

Maybe I'm overreacting a bit here, but I feel like over the past couple months this has REALLY been getting out of hand. It's extremely annoying to read, and probably incredibly frustrating to people looking for feedback on their characters, not to mention flat out rude. I think it would be a good idea if it was a minor offense at least, something that got you a staff warning and deleted post.

Orochi Gill

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#2 July 31, 2012, 06:24:59 am

I am hilarious
and you will quote everything I say

I agree. It doesn't contribute to the thread, and it generally annoys other posters.

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Warden-San

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#3 July 31, 2012, 06:26:33 am

For honor!

My ideal punishment for those posts is for the poster to be tarred and feathered and forced to wear the scarlet letter.

However this is a forum so yeah I'd settle for the minor offense thing.

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Lil' Hurricane

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#4 July 31, 2012, 06:27:36 am

That's definitely a good idea.

It's basically not talking about the creation at all.

Last Edit: August 01, 2012, 12:07:59 am by Hurricane2s

MellyInChains

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#5 July 31, 2012, 06:28:40 am

i'm a gay trans lady
to hell with this site, find me at mffa or w/e

said it before, will say it again. and yeah recently it's been getting increasingly annoying

TempesT

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#6 July 31, 2012, 06:30:38 am

チョンリサ

Cyanide said, April 07, 2012, 01:38:25 am

As said, if it bothers you in a thread, report it and we'll trash it, won't make much difference to the thread, if you don't care, ignore it.

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#7 July 31, 2012, 06:31:14 am

Legendary XIII
I am the eye of the storm to come!

Will reiterate some of what was said in the other thread. Report it and request deletion of post. Deletions are really easy and we can do them pretty fast, but we don't read everything so you need to tell us.

Tempest beat me to it.

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#8 July 31, 2012, 07:17:08 am

Does this look like the face of mercy?

there should be a rule that forbids people from posting things i don't like

Hanging in there ⭐

MellyInChains

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#9 July 31, 2012, 07:22:19 am

i'm a gay trans lady
to hell with this site, find me at mffa or w/e

very cute but it is something that's actually, y'know, legitimately something that needs to be reported, so.

and yes i know you all don't read everything but i was hoping it could bear mention in the rules or something, although i doubt that would help much

Jmorphman

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#10 July 31, 2012, 07:23:25 am

If you’re gonna reach for a star...
reach for the lowest one you can.

Bastard Wolf said, July 31, 2012, 07:17:08 am

there should be a rule that forbids people from posting things i don't like

This isn't about people posting things other people don't like, it's about being a decent human being and not being a selfish dick.

Bastard Wolf

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#11 July 31, 2012, 07:25:12 am

Does this look like the face of mercy?

ok then. but as cyanide said just report it and should have it deleted, sent a pm with a warning if it continues

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Hanging in there ⭐

rednavi -RETIRED

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#12 July 31, 2012, 07:38:59 am

When I read this thread's title I was expectin*shot*

Iced

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#13 July 31, 2012, 11:21:51 am

日本は素晴らしい国です。

lets force them to wear rednavi avatar as a punishment for a couple of days.

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#14 July 31, 2012, 11:38:36 am

You mean that bunny? That bunny is adorable.

GOH

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#15 July 31, 2012, 11:41:29 am

Pure radge

Iced said, July 31, 2012, 11:21:51 am

lets force them to post like rednavi for a couple of days.

Fixed.

Bastard Mami

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#16 July 31, 2012, 04:53:13 pm

I am not sure on that, there are at least two situations in which a psot like that is legit and helpful; either the guy doing/reporting the release is being purposefully ambiguous, the case being when the character shares it's name with another character from a different game and the source game is not posted like

title: "LOOOOOOL NEW RYU RELEASED"
contents: stupid, this si ryu form ninja gaiden, not ryu from sf2 lolololol

and the other case is when the original poster does not post pictures of the character (this si closely tied to the first case anyway).

Cobra Caddie

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#17 July 31, 2012, 04:55:46 pm

Most Dangerous Mugen

Can you quote some examples of this happening? Not saying this in a "I don't believe you way", but rather "I believe you and want to see this happening for myself, but don't wanna pour through topics looking for an example".

Orochi Gill

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#18 July 31, 2012, 05:01:51 pm

I am hilarious
and you will quote everything I say

drewski90 said, July 20, 2012, 04:42:56 pm

I was hoping for a decent silver surfer character, not that nes one

pooh hardy said, July 26, 2012, 11:29:54 pm

ohhh that tekken
ok
i was expecting tekken 3 though
(a gon and nina stage would of been epic...)

PineappleProducer said, June 28, 2012, 04:29:52 pm

I guess I am the only one who came here expecting the protagonist of a certain anime.

fer619 said, June 08, 2012, 03:15:48 am

michiyoyoshiku said, June 08, 2012, 12:48:55 am
I'm disappointed I was expecting the simpsons character.

ditto

ghostface211 said, March 20, 2012, 02:52:37 am

Aw, I was expecting Simba or Mufasa.

Lasombra Demon said, March 19, 2012, 02:09:41 am

And here I was expecting to find a Megaman char.

SilentRipper said, February 27, 2012, 04:46:23 pm

And here was I expecting to see a Cammy

Dead or Alive Fan said, July 31, 2012, 06:15:49 am

No offense but am I the only one who was expecting to see Raiden from the KOF XIII ?

...you see what I'm getting at.

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#19 July 31, 2012, 05:05:16 pm

Most Dangerous Mugen

Freakin dammit.

I'm ANGRY about this.

I was expecting the forum users know better than this, but now I'm expecting them to shut up about what they're expecting. DAMMIT

Bastard Mami

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#20 July 31, 2012, 05:23:44 pm

lol, you are being too hard on the users, it's exactly as I said, the ones posting the topic did not specify which character, they brought it to themselves.

only the tekken and silver surfer ones might deserve to get their posts deleted.

Jmorphman

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#21 July 31, 2012, 05:27:27 pm

If you’re gonna reach for a star...
reach for the lowest one you can.

[E] said, July 31, 2012, 05:23:44 pm

it's exactly as I said, the ones posting the topic did not specify which character, they brought it to themselves.

Do screenshots not count all of a sudden?

Titiln

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#22 July 31, 2012, 05:31:33 pm

like i said in the thread melvanainchains made, i don't think it merits a rule because the type of poster that makes I WAS EXPECTING OTHER THING!! THIS SUCKS doesn't really read rule stickies but those posts should be reported and deleted

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Jmorphman

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#23 July 31, 2012, 05:37:03 pm

If you’re gonna reach for a star...
reach for the lowest one you can.

I agree.

While the posts are definitely annoying it's not really anything worth getting worked up about, and if a user keeps making the same kind of posts after being warned about it before, they'll have their posts deleted and/or be banned.

MellyInChains

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#24 July 31, 2012, 05:47:17 pm

i'm a gay trans lady
to hell with this site, find me at mffa or w/e

Titiln said, July 31, 2012, 05:31:33 pm

i don't think it merits a rule because the type of poster that makes I WAS EXPECTING OTHER THING!! THIS SUCKS doesn't really read rule stickies

you know, that is a very good point. seems the only way is to have DON'T DO THIS right when they hit post (y'know like the necrobump alert) which would be kinda excessive, so

Duos.act

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#25 July 31, 2012, 05:59:16 pm

Palette God? Champion? AntiChrist? Something.
I AM THE KING OF PALETTES!!

As I said in the first post, I think it merits little more than a slap on the wrist and a post deletion. I don't tink it needs to be a major offense.

Bastard Mami

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#26 July 31, 2012, 06:24:02 pm

Jmorphman said, July 31, 2012, 05:27:27 pm

[E] said, July 31, 2012, 05:23:44 pm
it's exactly as I said, the ones posting the topic did not specify which character, they brought it to themselves.
Do screenshots not count all of a sudden?

they already make the user click the topic. call it false advertizing if you wish.

desmondolds

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#27 July 31, 2012, 06:29:20 pm

I move beyond the speed of soul

So does this include the following
-Trolling
-Random spamming
-Off Topic Trolling
-Mature (XXX) Trolling/Hyper Spamming
-Instant attacks on the creator (not the creations itself)

If so i support this idea as well..for new creators of both stages & characters it gives the little guys like me some hope and more comfort being here

Bastard Wolf

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#28 July 31, 2012, 06:31:42 pm

Does this look like the face of mercy?

did you even read the thread?

anyway in most of the examples lsited by orochi gill the thread included a screenshot and now you can check those screenshots BEFORE you even click the thread so they are just being dumb for posting that shit

Hanging in there ⭐

JudaiZX

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#29 July 31, 2012, 06:34:49 pm

hecc

Dear lord, did all of these users start making these kinds of posts when i shamefully made one on mass's hiryu? Its like i never saw these kinds of posts all before i made that shameful one
I started a shit storm

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youre a fucking meme. another borewood. REIWOOD. SHIP CONFIRMED.

Alpaca-San said, November 09, 2014, 09:26:35 am

I will force feed Dark Pit right into your ass if we ever play on wi fi.

SlanDome said, September 13, 2020, 04:40:48 pm

i think this a dark souls of a mugen forums.

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Iced

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#30 July 31, 2012, 06:36:33 pm

日本は素晴らしい国です。

That makes you the lamest barf >:C

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#31 July 31, 2012, 06:37:22 pm

If you’re gonna reach for a star...
reach for the lowest one you can.

[E] said, July 31, 2012, 06:24:02 pm

they already make the user click the topic. call it false advertizing if you wish.

People shouldn't have to specifically say "oh btw this isn't character x from y, it's actually character a from b." Not doing that is not false advertising.

Bastard Mami

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#32 July 31, 2012, 07:11:59 pm

people should not complain when other people complains either

Bastard Wolf

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#33 July 31, 2012, 11:12:57 pm

Does this look like the face of mercy?

stop complaining about people who complain about other people complains!!

Hanging in there ⭐

DW

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#34 July 31, 2012, 11:23:37 pm

desmondolds said, July 31, 2012, 06:29:20 pm

So does this include the following
-Trolling
-Random spamming
-Off Topic Trolling
-Mature (XXX) Trolling/Hyper Spamming
-Instant attacks on the creator (not the creations itself)

If so i support this idea as well..for new creators of both stages & characters it gives the little guys like me some hope and more comfort being here

I wouldn't say it's to the extreme extent of those things. I don't find this to be that big of a deal IMO. Though I may just be giving people the benefit of doubt, which I always do. I don't think that's the user's intentions to be rude, they're just stating what they expected by reading the topic of a release. Everyone has expectations when you're about to DL something/go into a topic, however I can see where it can get annoying and somewhat disrespectful to the creator/possible other users. I don't think saying you expected something should be warrant for banning... Though, it should be encouraged that members/users reframe from posting what you expect of something/someone. Because while it may not be your intent to be rude, it comes off that way in all fairness.

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#35 July 31, 2012, 11:28:59 pm

i am loyal to you unless you disagree with me

it doesn't really add anything to the thread though. and you don't even need to go into the thread to find out what it is. since you can check the screenshot.

something looks a little off...

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#36 July 31, 2012, 11:37:17 pm

The "I was expecting _____" comments are on the same level as "nice car +1" posts, they add nothing to discussion and say nothing about the release itself.

The user's intents may not be about being rude or disrespectful but they are still stupid posts that are annoying to look at. Of course, this wouldn't be a big deal if users wouldn't post this kind of comments so often.

Jmorphman

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#37 July 31, 2012, 11:42:09 pm

If you’re gonna reach for a star...
reach for the lowest one you can.

Pal said, July 31, 2012, 11:37:17 pm

The "I was expecting _____" comments are on the same level as "nice car +1" posts, they add nothing to discussion and say nothing about the release itself.

I'd say they're worse; nice car + 1 posts at least are compliments. The "oh I was expecting this character" posts are giant fuck-yous to the creator of the character; they're saying "this character is not worth my time because it is not the character I thought it would be, and I need to tell everyone about my displeasure even though nobody gives a fuck."

Pal

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#38 July 31, 2012, 11:47:05 pm

Jmorphman said, July 31, 2012, 11:42:09 pm

"this character is not worth my time because it is not the character I thought it would be, and I need to tell everyone about my displeasure even though nobody gives a fuck."

I was actually going to say I see that kind of posts that way, except that I was trying to be articulate but I'm pretty horrible at wording things so I cut it out my post.

But yeah, I think we got the point already. So, we just report the posts and they are deleted? A user doing it repeated times gets a small ban for bad behavior or something? What is the final word.

Graphicus

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#39 July 31, 2012, 11:51:10 pm

Some day I'll finish this thing...

SOMETIMES they're helpful and constructive:

It tells the owner of the thread that they might want to be bit more specific with their titles (for example, instead of just writing "Kim released!" they may get more attention by specifying "Kim Sue-Il released!", especially if there are Kizuna Encounter fans in the forum).

It's easy to tell the difference between someone who's just trolling and whining and someone that's saying "Ah, that wasn't clear from the title". I mean, sure, you can figure it out by just opening the thread and looking at the character in the screenshots, but that's why titles are there, to attract attention. There's nothing wrong suggesting people set proper expectations from the get-go.

Of course, if there's a reason to believe someone's trolling, they should always receive a report, regardless of the subject matter.

Note that I have never made these types of "I was expecting X" posts. These are just my two cents, I'm not trying to defend myself or anyone else here.

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#40 August 01, 2012, 01:50:23 am

Legendary XIII
I am the eye of the storm to come!

Although that is basically reasonable. It's not fair to the topic starter still. It should not matter how the release is worded (as long as it include a name) or who it is. You shouldn't be going into any thread and then basically complain that the character isn't what you wanted.

Which is kinda the point. It's not "i was expecting" the people who make these posts are really saying "I wanted X and you have ruined it"

Point stands. report it and we'll delete it.

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#41 August 01, 2012, 02:06:44 am

Some day I'll finish this thing...

Agreed. Ultimately it just depends on how the person phrases it.

If someone says "Hey, you might want to consider adding X to the topic title so people don't get confused" then that person's being constructive and shouldn't get reported.

If all they post is "Awww... I thought this was going to be X character! No thanks!", then report and delete.

Bastard Wolf

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#42 August 01, 2012, 02:07:42 am

Does this look like the face of mercy?

i really doubt anyone making that kind os posts is doing it with purpose of trolling. it's more like they make stupid comments without thinking before posting

it's still a stupid an unnecessary comments that adds nothing to the thread, are annoying to read and might offend the author of said thread

Hanging in there ⭐

DW

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#43 August 01, 2012, 03:47:26 am

Cyanide said, August 01, 2012, 01:50:23 am

Although that is basically reasonable. It's not fair to the topic starter still. It should not matter how the release is worded (as long as it include a name) or who it is. You shouldn't be going into any thread and then basically complain that the character isn't what you wanted.

Which is kinda the point. It's not "i was expecting" the people who make these posts are really saying "I wanted X and you have ruined it"

Point stands. report it and we'll delete it.

Yeah, I can see that. That is true. One shouldn't expect anything from someone creating something to their own standards. The best advice I can give to someone expecting something of someone else in this regard, would be to create it yourself. Then you won't have to go around "expecting" anything of anyone. You don't have to be a coding wizard or anything to create for MUGEN, all you need do is apply yourself. Trust me, I know lol. There's TONS of stuff I don't know about coding and the like, I simply apply myself to get it done.

On another note of this topic though... What if the reverse were to come in to effect? I've seen this on forums sometimes where someone posts...

"I expected this char to be subpar or suck, but it's actually very good."

I suppose something like this is bitter-sweet. It is a compliment...though at the same time a insult as well. Just wondering what peoples thoughts are on something like that. Basically falls into the same script eh?

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#44 August 01, 2012, 03:56:15 am

Except that comment talks about the release itself.

While it may be read as rude it actually is relevant to the topic, unlike "I was expecting...".

JeanBureau

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#45 August 01, 2012, 07:58:31 am

what kind of crying bitch do you have to be to report a post that says "i thought this would suck but it's actually good" or "nice char + 1"

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#46 August 01, 2012, 08:32:34 am

one that put a good amount of work into something and gets mostly "but i thought this would be something else, i don't care" replies, which is actually pretty fucking reasonable to be upset about. also nobody's really complaining about nice char +1. pay attention

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JeanBureau

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#47 August 01, 2012, 10:18:14 am

Quote

"I expected this char to be subpar or suck, but it's actually very good."

I suppose something like this is bitter-sweet. It is a compliment...though at the same time a insult as well. Just wondering what peoples thoughts are on something like that. Basically falls into the same script eh?

My post was an answer to this quote above. Not the first post precisely. The guy quoted wants a opinion about that "bitter-sweet" type of comment, for which there is nothing to be upset about.

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Quote

also nobody's really complaining about nice char +1. pay attention

---> really ?

Quote

The "I was expecting _____" comments are on the same level as "nice car +1" posts, they add nothing to discussion and say nothing about the release itself.
The user's intents may not be about being rude or disrespectful but they are still stupid posts that are annoying to look at. Of course, this wouldn't be a big deal if users wouldn't post this kind of comments so often.

Insert coin to retry please.

Toshio Tenma

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#48 August 01, 2012, 11:26:44 am

Maker of obscurity.

I recall something like this happened when I released a stage called "Angelica Stage", the dude just replied saying he tought it was "Angelica Pickles".
I think it's stupid, both screenshot and video were there, just saying these things are wasting the time of the poster. It's not because you expected something different that you should post something unnecessary.

-Toshio Tenma

TempesT

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#49 August 01, 2012, 12:00:39 pm

チョンリサ

JeanBureau † said, August 01, 2012, 10:18:14 am

---> really ?
Quote
The "I was expecting _____" comments are on the same level as "nice car +1" posts, they add nothing to discussion and say nothing about the release itself.
The user's intents may not be about being rude or disrespectful but they are still stupid posts that are annoying to look at. Of course, this wouldn't be a big deal if users wouldn't post this kind of comments so often.

Insert coin to retry please.

Maybe you wanna re-read what you quoted. Maybe English isn't your first language so I'll give you the free credit to retry.

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#50 August 01, 2012, 01:26:49 pm

Pure radge

DivineWolf said, August 01, 2012, 03:47:26 am

On another note of this topic though... What if the reverse were to come in to effect? I've seen this on forums sometimes where someone posts...

"I expected this char to be subpar or suck, but it's actually very good."

I suppose something like this is bitter-sweet. It is a compliment...though at the same time a insult as well. Just wondering what peoples thoughts are on something like that. Basically falls into the same script eh?

It's not exactly the same thing, because usually those comments are made after people try said character and sometimes are followed by feedback on what to improve more and such. And usually someone says that because the author has a tendency to release subpar content, which is an understandable comment IMO.

PAVGN

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#51 August 03, 2012, 07:56:59 pm

Jmorphman said, July 31, 2012, 11:42:09 pm

The "oh I was expecting this character" posts are giant fuck-yous to the creator of the character; they're saying "this character is not worth my time because it is not the character I thought it would be, and I need to tell everyone about my displeasure even though nobody gives a fuck."

I'm curious, what If someone says something to the effect of "I thought It was going to be ___, but this is cool too, so I'm going to get this anyway"?

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#52 August 03, 2012, 08:35:31 pm

If you’re gonna reach for a star...
reach for the lowest one you can.

I don't think anyone would care in that case. I certainly haven't seen any posts like that reported.

Toshio Tenma

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#53 August 03, 2012, 08:47:38 pm

Maker of obscurity.

I have a job and I often check my posts when there are new replies.
However, is frustrating to check a topic just to learn that somebody said was expecting another thing.
Well, it waste my time.
Another thing which I find stupid is seeing people to make useless corrections about grammar or even time in a release topic.
After all it's not a grammar section and neither a forum related to the current time. It's the release section and it should be like that.

-Toshio Tenma

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