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Dante & vergil by Bugya in MvC style?
#1  October 17, 2012, 12:48:22 am
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I am making my Marvel vs. Capcom mugen, for now I want to include 60 chars (24 marvel, 24 capcom, 12 from other games) all these chars will be edits, and within these 60 chars are dante and vergil made by bugya, the problem is that the sprites are not similar to MVC and are a bit rare compared with chars that have this style, so I opened this thread to see what their opinions.



pros

  • they are dante and vergil!

cons

  • the sprites aren't mvc style
  • since the chars are 4 buttons, I have to repeat some attacks and possibly look bad
  • chars will be made without permission and with codes from others chars

sorry for my english, I hope your opinions

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Re: Dante & vergil by Bugya in MvC style?
#2  October 17, 2012, 02:54:04 am
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If it's Marvel vs Capcom, why are you going to add 12 guest characters?

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#3  October 17, 2012, 02:58:08 am
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Because Smash Bros. Brawl had Sonic and Snake? I dunno.
Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am
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#4  October 17, 2012, 03:01:33 am
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Your pros and cons make no sense.
It doesn't matter if there sprites aren't MvC.
In the end, the coding is what matters and what will determine if your char is fun/good to use.  Also, why would you need to duplicate their attacks to make a six button character?  Couldn't you just simply create your own attacks from scratch...?

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#5  October 17, 2012, 03:02:37 am
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I think he meant reusing sprites and animations.
Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am
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#6  October 17, 2012, 03:14:04 am
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Well even then, I still don't see how that's an issue.  Dante and Vergil both have a ton of sprites. 
Reusing a few frames to create a whole new attack shouldn't be a issue.

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#7  October 17, 2012, 03:16:58 am
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Wait a minute, MvC overall (if I'm not mistaken) is a 4-button game. Now I'm confused.
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#8  October 17, 2012, 03:19:58 am
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MvC is in no way a 4 button game

Xmen: Cota = 6 buttons
MSH = 6 buttons
XmvSF = 6 buttons
MSHvSF = 6 buttons
MvC = 6 buttons
MvC2 = 4 buttons (where combos let you into the mediums)

MvC2 is bastardized for the 4 button controller so the medium was rolled into the light. Tapping light>light would get you a light>medium combo.

MvC in general is not 4 buttons though. And this should be in idea engineering which is where i'm going to move it now.


In M.U.G.E.N there is no magic button

They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.

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#9  October 17, 2012, 03:22:00 am
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Thanks for correcting me on that.
Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am
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#10  October 17, 2012, 03:44:33 am
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Cyanide said, October 17, 2012, 03:19:58 am
MvC is in no way a 4 button game

Xmen: Cota = 6 buttons
MSH = 6 buttons
XmvSF = 6 buttons
MSHvSF = 6 buttons
MvC = 6 buttons
MvC2 = 4 buttons (where combos let you into the mediums)

MvC2 is bastardized for the 4 button controller so the medium was rolled into the light. Tapping light>light would get you a light>medium combo.

MvC in general is not 4 buttons though. And this should be in idea engineering which is where i'm going to move it now.

MVC3 has three attack buttons and the S button.  That's four buttons.

ShinLucho

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#11  October 17, 2012, 04:43:53 am
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thanks cyanide for move the thread

Karasai said, October 17, 2012, 02:54:04 am
If it's Marvel vs Capcom, why are you going to add 12 guest characters?

Because I like more characters out of marvel & capcom and I like the gameplay.

C.A.N Can said, October 17, 2012, 02:58:08 am
Because Smash Bros. Brawl had Sonic and Snake? I dunno.

sonic no, snake yes jeje

TRUEMicah said, October 17, 2012, 03:01:33 am
Your pros and cons make no sense.
It doesn't matter if there sprites aren't MvC.
In the end, the coding is what matters and what will determine if your char is fun/good to use.  Also, why would you need to duplicate their attacks to make a six button character?  Couldn't you just simply create your own attacks from scratch...?

yeah, the pros and cons are stupids
I have to duplicate the attacks, for example the crunchs moves to fill the 6 buttons. About the sprites, someone don't like mix the sprites in a mugen, that's one reason why I opened this topic

TRUEMicah said, October 17, 2012, 03:14:04 am
Well even then, I still don't see how that's an issue.  Dante and Vergil both have a ton of sprites. 
Reusing a few frames to create a whole new attack shouldn't be a issue.

they have a lot of sprites, but not everyone are necesary, maybe i can delete some frames but I really suck making sprites.

C.A.N Can said, October 17, 2012, 03:16:58 am
Wait a minute, MvC overall (if I'm not mistaken) is a 4-button game. Now I'm confused.

well I forgot the 1 in MvC, I don't like the mvc2 gameplay and fxs, about mvc3 I didn't played it.
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#12  October 17, 2012, 08:13:51 am
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MC2 said, October 17, 2012, 03:44:33 am
Cyanide said, October 17, 2012, 03:19:58 am
MvC is in no way a 4 button game

Xmen: Cota = 6 buttons
MSH = 6 buttons
XmvSF = 6 buttons
MSHvSF = 6 buttons
MvC = 6 buttons
MvC2 = 4 buttons (where combos let you into the mediums)

MvC2 is bastardized for the 4 button controller so the medium was rolled into the light. Tapping light>light would get you a light>medium combo.

MvC in general is not 4 buttons though. And this should be in idea engineering which is where i'm going to move it now.

MVC3 has three attack buttons and the S button.  That's four buttons.
So, still outnumbered by 6 button games then =P

Also i have not played MvC3 and cannot comment.


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ShinLucho

Re: Dante & vergil by Bugya in MvC style?
#13  October 17, 2012, 07:19:02 pm
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something like this would be the crouching attacks

light punch
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medium punch
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hard punch
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light kick (deleting some sprites I think it will look good)
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medium kick
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hard kick
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I do not like the idea of ​​having 2 launchers with similar command, perhaps the hard kick will be a normal attack but it will look some strange.

other details are the bullets, in mvc 1 and 2 i never see one but in mvc 3 the bullets have graphics, in the deadpool edit I use invisible projectile with high speed, which method would I use?

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#14  October 17, 2012, 10:18:38 pm
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Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am
Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

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#15  October 18, 2012, 12:35:00 am
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If you're trying for the MVC3 moveset you will not be able to do that, because Bugya's Dante is missing several sprites for moves with Agni and Rudra, Nevan, Kalina Anne, etc.  Vergil might be doable though.

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#16  October 18, 2012, 12:42:40 am
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and bugya's dante has a palette swap when he does his attack stance, don't forget that

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#17  October 18, 2012, 01:06:10 am
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there's already a UMvC3 Vergil want a download link?

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#18  October 18, 2012, 01:19:57 am
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This isn't a request.
You may want to read before you post.

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#19  October 18, 2012, 02:30:37 am
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its better then editing by himself plz dont say that I try to help some guys dont get mad

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#20  October 18, 2012, 03:45:12 am
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Maybe you'd be better off just going with a 4 button layout, due to lack of anim variants needed for a 6 button layout. Though, I can understand if you just like the 6 button layout better. I myself prefer the 6 button scheme of the early VS series installments. Does Dante not have any other low anims that could suffice for a low HK? Because doing a uppercut would feel/looks quite weird. The only people that can get away with doing mismatched attack for buttons are Kim and Balrog(boxer). :P
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